Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-19 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Oleg Goldshmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The IBM page does mention the Haifa event on Jan 9, and so does the registration page linked from there. The Haifa event will be longer, and more technical. AFAIK it will be open to those who register. I hope to be able to provide more details and

Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Christoph Bugel
On 2002-12-17, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: IBM is organizing a GNU/Linux Free Software and Open Source event, to take place on January 8th at Tel Aviv University and January 9th at IBM's Haifa Research Labs[1]. Speaking will be RMS (yesm, yes, *that* Stallman) and Theodore T'so, one of the

Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Ely Levy
Would that be the best thing happened to open source in israel in 8 years? Or would RMS just use it again to show how much he dislike israel? Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: IBM is organizing a GNU/Linux Free Software and

RE: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Dvir Volk
Actually, if you read RMS's columns on his website, you'll see that he does not dislike Israel at all. His opinions are more or less equivalent to mainstream Israeli leftist opinions, he's definitely not anti Israeli. (read here for example: http://www.stallman.org/good-fences.html)

RE: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Ely Levy
well I guess it changed a bit from the intreview of his. too bad I didn't keep the link it was long ago. but I remember something about saying that if israel would invite him he would never come here cause we act like SA Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Wed, 18 Dec

RE: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 12:38, Dvir Volk wrote: Actually, if you read RMS's columns on his website, you'll see that he does not dislike Israel at all. His opinions are more or less equivalent to mainstream Israeli leftist opinions, he's definitely not anti Israeli. (read here for example:

RE: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 12:47, Ely Levy wrote: well I guess it changed a bit from the intreview of his. too bad I didn't keep the link it was long ago. but I remember something about saying that if israel would invite him he would never come here cause we act like SA This already happened to me

RE: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Ely Levy
It was HIS words that what interview means:P he had some good ideas and he had some bad ones. I also remember some people from gcc getting upset on him Some gnome people as well. and reading what he said and what people said in general doesn't leave me with too good impression. anyhow no one is

RE: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 13:40, Ely Levy wrote: It was HIS words that what interview means:P As someone who has been interviewed by media a couple of times for various reasons I can tell you that there is a difference, sometimes quite big and sometime very small, between what you actually say and

Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Ely Levy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but I remember something about saying that if israel would invite him he would never come here cause we act like SA This must be pretty recent. He was in Israel a few years ago, and refrained from saying anything related to Israel's policies in my presence.

Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 08:25:16PM +0200, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: IBM is organizing a GNU/Linux Free Software and Open Source event, to take place on January 8th at Tel Aviv University and January 9th at IBM's Haifa Research Labs[1]. The link to

Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Apparently this was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] only Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The link to the IBM site you gave below doesn't mention January 9th. Looks like that will be more closed event. Or did I missed something? Yes, the site does mention 9/1 at IBM, and so does the

Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Shlomi Fish
On 18 Dec 2002, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Ely Levy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but I remember something about saying that if israel would invite him he would never come here cause we act like SA This must be pretty recent. He was in Israel a few years ago, and refrained from saying anything

Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Ely Levy
shhh first politics and now religion? this mailing list been a great linux place cause we avoided this kind of subjects no good comes out of them. let it keep for other lists:) Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Uri Bruck wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2002,

Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002, Shlomi Fish wrote about Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa: be a Jewish Atheist, because Judaism is essentially a peopleship, that the Jewish religion is a small (and unnecessary) part of. If that isn't flamebait, I don't know what is :) Let's not

RE: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Dvir Volk
RMS is Jewish or at least his mother is. Hmm... At least we can now be sure that they won't give him any trouble entering israel, huh? http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/pages/ShArtPE.jhtml?itemNo=240135contra ssID=2subContrassID=13sbSubContrassID=0

Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Eli Marmor
Responses to Dvir/Ely/Shlomi: Dvir Volk wrote: Actually, if you read RMS's columns on his website, you'll see that he does not dislike Israel at all. His opinions are more or less equivalent to mainstream Israeli leftist opinions, he's definitely not anti Israeli. (read here for example:

Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Wed, Dec 18, 2002, Shlomi Fish wrote about Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa: be a Jewish Atheist, because Judaism is essentially a peopleship, that the Jewish religion is a small (and unnecessary) part of. If that isn't

Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread Uri Bruck
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Wed, Dec 18, 2002, Shlomi Fish wrote about Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa: be a Jewish Atheist, because Judaism is essentially a peopleship, that the Jewish religion is a small (and unnecessary) part of. If that isn't

RE: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread linux_il
OK, let's start a religious war: VI sucks. (Just kidding :-) -Original Message- From: Uri Bruck If you gonna start a religious war, might as well have religion somewhere in it... :) = To unsubscribe, send mail to

IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-17 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
IBM is organizing a GNU/Linux Free Software and Open Source event, to take place on January 8th at Tel Aviv University and January 9th at IBM's Haifa Research Labs[1]. Speaking will be RMS (yesm, yes, *that* Stallman) and Theodore T'so, one of the kernel developers. Details:

Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-17 Thread Shaul Karl
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 08:25:16PM +0200, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: IBM is organizing a GNU/Linux Free Software and Open Source event, to take place on January 8th at Tel Aviv University and January 9th at IBM's Haifa Research Labs[1]. The link to the IBM site you gave below doesn't mention

Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-17 Thread Orna Agmon
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Shaul Karl wrote: The link to the IBM site you gave below doesn't mention January 9th. Looks like that will be more closed event. Or did I missed something? It seems like the TA event is completely open, while the IBM-HAIFA event requires an ID in order to