Re: BIDI support KDE-3.2 and Mozilla (WAS Mail and Hebrew )

2003-11-25 Thread Moshe Leibovitch
://kde-cygwin.sf.net/ alongside Life could be much easier if Mozilla supported RTL+LTR switching. At the moment, we must use IE for proper hebrew support of mail composing. Tell that to my mom that uses mozilla I Want to use Squirrelmail with htmlarea hack but Mozilla does'nt support something

Re: BIDI support KDE-3.2 and Mozilla (WAS Mail and Hebrew )

2003-11-25 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
for proper hebrew support of mail composing. Tell that to my mom that uses mozilla I Want to use Squirrelmail with htmlarea hack but Mozilla does'nt support something like BlockDirRtl/Ltr as IE does. OTOH, mozilla's GUI is far more customizable. In fact, customizable enough for some

Re: BIDI support KDE-3.2 and Mozilla (WAS Mail and Hebrew )

2003-11-25 Thread Kfir Lavi
Shachar 1. Ilya Konstantinov donated the script 2. Doesn't work on 1.5 I have Mozilla 1.5, and in when Shachar sent it i tried it and it works fine. Regards, Kfir Lavi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: BIDI support KDE-3.2 and Mozilla (WAS Mail and Hebrew )

2003-11-25 Thread Kfir Lavi
Kfir Lavi wrote: Shachar 1. Ilya Konstantinov donated the script 2. Doesn't work on 1.5 I have Mozilla 1.5, and in when Shachar sent it i tried it and it works fine. Regards, Kfir Lavi Sorry, now i discovered that when i work with the script with Mozilla 1.5, the text pans in a web page

Re: BIDI support KDE-3.2 and Mozilla (WAS Mail and Hebrew )

2003-11-25 Thread Moshe Leibovitch
-cygwin.sf.net/ alongside Life could be much easier if Mozilla supported RTL+LTR switching. At the moment, we must use IE for proper hebrew support of mail composing. Tell that to my mom that uses mozilla I Want to use Squirrelmail with htmlarea hack but Mozilla does'nt support

Re: BIDI support KDE-3.2 and Mozilla (WAS Mail and Hebrew )

2003-11-25 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Kfir Lavi wrote: Kfir Lavi wrote: Shachar 1. Ilya Konstantinov donated the script 2. Doesn't work on 1.5 I have Mozilla 1.5, and in when Shachar sent it i tried it and it works fine. Regards, Kfir Lavi Sorry, now i discovered that when i work with the script with Mozilla 1.5, the text

BiDi in SIM IM client (Re: Mail and Hebrew)

2003-11-25 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 04:05:10PM +0200, Oded Arbel wrote: Qt 3.2 fixes this problem - you can change the inherent directionality of a text buffer (currently with CTRL-SHIFT a-la windows. don't know if this is configurable). everything that runs on top of Qt 3.2 will get this behavior. And,

Re: BiDi in SIM IM client (Re: Mail and Hebrew)

2003-11-25 Thread Meir Kriheli
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 25 November 2003 20:18, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 04:05:10PM +0200, Oded Arbel wrote: Qt 3.2 fixes this problem - you can change the inherent directionality of a text buffer (currently with CTRL-SHIFT a-la

Re: Mail and Hebrew]

2003-11-24 Thread Sagi Bashari
On 24/11/2003 03:09, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Life could be much easier if Mozilla supported RTL+LTR switching. At the moment, we must use IE for proper hebrew support of mail composing. Tell that to my mom that uses mozilla Is there any option to set the direction to RTL for hebrew text

Re: Mail and Hebrew]

2003-11-24 Thread Aaron
for proper hebrew support of mail composing. Tell that to my mom that uses mozilla Is there any option to set the direction to RTL for hebrew text messages? Right now every hebrew email I get is aligned to the left. I have the same problem when composing an email, I have

Re: Mail and Hebrew]

2003-11-24 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 11:24:36AM +0200, Sagi Bashari wrote: On 24/11/2003 03:09, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Life could be much easier if Mozilla supported RTL+LTR switching. At the moment, we must use IE for proper hebrew support of mail composing. Tell that to my mom that uses mozilla

Re: Mail and Hebrew]

2003-11-24 Thread Sagi Bashari
On 24/11/2003 13:35, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Is there any option to set the direction to RTL for hebrew text messages? Right now every hebrew email I get is aligned to the left. I have the same problem when composing an email, I have to send it as HTML to align it properly, and even then it only

Re: Mail and Hebrew]

2003-11-24 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Sagi Bashari wrote: A text has no base direction attribute. But what's wrong with simply sending Hebrew text? The problem is that mozilla doesn't detect the base direction, so when I write everything is aligned to the left - and even if I change the alignment manually using the toolbar (for

Re: Mail and Hebrew]

2003-11-24 Thread Oded Arbel
24 2003, 15:40,Shachar Shemesh: Mozilla from totally unusable for Hebrew to bearable, with no better alternative, at least as far as I'm concerned. KMail is the obvious alternative, but there are other Qt based mailers, all are quite usable. Personally, I think what kmail is doing is

Re: Mail and Hebrew]

2003-11-24 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 04:05:10PM +0200, Oded Arbel wrote: 24 2003, 15:40,Shachar Shemesh: Mozilla from totally unusable for Hebrew to bearable, with no better alternative, at least as far as I'm concerned. KMail is the obvious alternative, but there are other Qt based mailers, all

Re: Mail and Hebrew]

2003-11-24 Thread Oded Arbel
As you managed to misquote everything I wrote, I will simply start from scratch: Kmail is a text only MUA. it can read HTML mail but it can only send plain text. this is fine for me : I don't need to send HTML, but YMMV. so in the next paragraph I'm not talking about HTML at all, and anything

Re: Mail and Hebrew]

2003-11-24 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Oded Arbel wrote: 24 2003, 15:40,Shachar Shemesh: Mozilla from totally unusable for Hebrew to bearable, with no better alternative, at least as far as I'm concerned. KMail is the obvious alternative, but there are other Qt based mailers, all are quite usable. Personally, I

Re: Mail and Hebrew

2003-11-23 Thread Kfir Lavi
But you use a network of computers, no? I understand that you have a server that got the email database, and you connect from a remote machine. If i'm wrong, does Cyrus IMAP work in linux and windows? I don't know if there is a port of Cyrus to Windows. If ypu use one computer and dual-boot

Re: Mail and Hebrew

2003-11-23 Thread linux-il
Gil Freund wrote: The only problem in this setup is that address books are not shared. I plan to use LDAP for this. I'd be glad to hear about your experience with this. I'm planning to do this too, for quite the same reasons (pressure increased since my bag was stolen with my Palm V in it,

Re: Mail and Hebrew

2003-11-23 Thread Gil Freund
Kfir Lavi wrote: But you use a network of computers, no? I understand that you have a server that got the email database, and you connect from a remote machine. If i'm wrong, does Cyrus IMAP work in linux and windows? I don't know if there is a port of Cyrus to Windows. If ypu use one

Re: Mail and Hebrew

2003-11-23 Thread Oded Arbel
23 2003, 09:55,Kfir Lavi: P.S. I see you use actcom, their mail server supports IMAP. Gil yes, but i really don't want to put my mails in their server. Or i don't understand something? Why won't you ? its much safer then putting it anywhere else, you can filter mail and

Re: Mail and Hebrew

2003-11-23 Thread Gil Freund
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gil Freund wrote: The only problem in this setup is that address books are not shared. I plan to use LDAP for this. I'd be glad to hear about your experience with this. I'm planning to do this too, for quite the same reasons (pressure increased since my bag was stolen

Re: Mail and Hebrew]

2003-11-23 Thread Moshe Leibovitch
It's a real pain to use kmail remotely using vnc+ssh. Life could be much easier if Mozilla supported RTL+LTR switching. At the moment, we must use IE for proper hebrew support of mail composing. I Want to use Squirrelmail with htmlarea hack but Mozilla does'nt support something like BlockDirRtl

Re: Mail and Hebrew]

2003-11-23 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
must use IE for proper hebrew support of mail composing. Tell that to my mom that uses mozilla I Want to use Squirrelmail with htmlarea hack but Mozilla does'nt support something like BlockDirRtl/Ltr as IE does. OTOH, mozilla's GUI is far more customizable. In fact, customizable enough

Re: Mail and Hebrew

2003-11-22 Thread Dotan Mazor
Try Opera. Works great for me with Hebrew, both on win and Linux: 1. Mail filters - not so strong in mozilla, and its hard to edit them by hand. Exist in Opera 2. I want to edit my mails with vim. Don't know how vim works... 3. I want to retain the hebrew names of the folders. No problem

Re: Mail and Hebrew

2003-11-22 Thread Kfir Lavi
Dotan Mazor wrote: Try Opera. Works great for me with Hebrew, both on win and Linux: 1. Mail filters - not so strong in mozilla, and its hard to edit them by hand. Exist in Opera 2. I want to edit my mails with vim. Don't know how vim works... 3. I want to retain the hebrew names of the

Re: Mail and Hebrew

2003-11-22 Thread Kfir Lavi
Gil Freund wrote: Kfir Lavi wrote: Dotan Mazor wrote: [SNIP] Built in. How the emails are kept in the system? Do you share the email database with windows and linux in the same computer? How about IMAP? I use Cyrus (major overkill) and read it from Mozilla on Windows and Linux, Mutt on

Re: Mail and Hebrew

2003-11-22 Thread Gil Freund
Kfir Lavi wrote: Gil Freund wrote: Kfir Lavi wrote: Dotan Mazor wrote: [SNIP] Built in. How the emails are kept in the system? Do you share the email database with windows and linux in the same computer? How about IMAP? I use Cyrus (major overkill) and read it from Mozilla on Windows

Mail and Hebrew

2003-11-21 Thread Kfir Lavi
Hi, I currently using mozilla as my mail client, and the mails are kept with mozillas database. My Emails are organized with directories with hebrew names. I want: 1. Mail filters - not so strong in mozilla, and its hard to edit them by hand. 2. I want to edit my mails with vim. 3. I want to

Re: Mail and Hebrew

2003-11-21 Thread Shlomo Solomon
KMail does all you ask. I never used Hebrew folder names, but just tried it and it works. As far as using a specific editor, KMail allows that (although I've never had the need). On Friday 21 November 2003 09:05, Kfir Lavi wrote: Hi, I currently using mozilla as my mail client, and the mails

Re: Mail and Hebrew

2003-11-21 Thread Micha Feigin
I don't know how it is with hebrew, will be happy to hear how to set it up for the ocational hebrew mail I recieve, but in terms of editing mail with vim, mutt does it, and for using spamassasin and strong filtering procmail is quite good (again, don't know about the hebrew directories, if you

Re: Mail and Hebrew

2003-11-21 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Friday 21 November 2003 09:35, Shlomo Solomon wrote: KMail does all you ask. I never used Hebrew folder names, but just tried it and it works. As far as using a specific editor, KMail allows that (although I've never had the need). Here's something strange. After answering Kfir's message, I

Re: Mail and Hebrew

2003-11-21 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 01:48:37PM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote: On Friday 21 November 2003 09:35, Shlomo Solomon wrote: KMail does all you ask. I never used Hebrew folder names, but just tried it and it works. As far as using a specific editor, KMail allows that (although I've never had the

Re: Mail and Hebrew

2003-11-21 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Friday 21 November 2003 14:12, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 01:48:37PM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote: On Friday 21 November 2003 09:35, Shlomo Solomon wrote: KMail does all you ask. I never used Hebrew folder names, but just tried it and it works. As far as using a

Re: Mail and Hebrew

2003-11-21 Thread shlomi
Shlomo Solomon wrote: On Friday 21 November 2003 14:12, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 01:48:37PM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote: On Friday 21 November 2003 09:35, Shlomo Solomon wrote: KMail does all you ask. I never used Hebrew folder names, but just tried it and it

Re: Mail and Hebrew

2003-11-21 Thread shlomi
Micha Feigin wrote: I don't know how it is with hebrew, will be happy to hear how to set it up for the ocational hebrew mail I recieve, but in terms of editing mail with vim, mutt does it, and for using spamassasin and strong filtering procmail is quite good (again, don't know about the hebrew

Re: Mail and Hebrew

2003-11-21 Thread linux-il
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: BTW: mozilla does not support reading from a local spool, which makes using a fetchmail/procmail/spamassasin combination problematic. My recomendation is in my signature. I use IMAP (to be precise - courier imap daemon over ssl), so I can switch between a local thunderbird,

Re: Mail and Hebrew

2003-11-21 Thread Kfir Lavi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tzafrir Cohen wrote: BTW: mozilla does not support reading from a local spool, which makes using a fetchmail/procmail/spamassasin combination problematic. My recomendation is in my signature. I use IMAP (to be precise - courier imap daemon over ssl), so I can switch

Re: Mail and Hebrew

2003-11-21 Thread Kfir Lavi
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 01:48:37PM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote: On Friday 21 November 2003 09:35, Shlomo Solomon wrote: KMail does all you ask. I never used Hebrew folder names, but just tried it and it works. As far as using a specific editor,

Re: Mail and Hebrew

2003-11-21 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 11:27:42PM +0200, Kfir Lavi wrote: I have tried vim in the past with hebrew, but it was just hebrew or just english. It couldn't work with both. Am i wrong? What I do is use a macro that assigns F9 to switching between Hebrew (Hebrew keyboard, reveresed display) and

Re: Mail and Hebrew

2003-11-21 Thread linux-il
Kfir Lavi wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use IMAP (to be precise - courier imap daemon over ssl), so I can switch between a local thunderbird, remote thunderbird from Windows XP at work, sometimes mutt over ssh. I use fetechmail/procmail to fetch the mail from my ISP. --Amos

Re: Mail and Hebrew

2003-11-21 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Nov 22, 2003 at 01:44:24AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The filesystem is Reiserfs (kernel 2.6test9). BTW: reiserfs/xfs/ext2/ext3/minixfs has nothing to do with the charset. On linux filesystems the file name has no charset attached to it. It is just a byte string. Anybody who reads

Re: Mail and Hebrew

2003-11-21 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sat, Nov 22, 2003 at 01:14:00AM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 11:27:42PM +0200, Kfir Lavi wrote: I have tried vim in the past with hebrew, but it was just hebrew or just english. It couldn't work with both. Am i wrong? What I do is use a macro that assigns