Re: Quest for *nix C/C++ IDE

2005-09-05 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 09:45 -0700, Nzer Zaidenberg wrote: Real developers (like me) use gvim and Makefiles like God intended us to work. Amen to that! vim + ctags. period. We don't use-no-stinking-mouse around here! No sirrie! lesser beings... use slickedit or kdevelop. slickedit cost

Re: Quest for *nix C/C++ IDE

2005-09-05 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 11:44:11AM +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 09:45 -0700, Nzer Zaidenberg wrote: Real developers (like me) use gvim and Makefiles like God intended us to work. Amen to that! vim + ctags. period. We don't use-no-stinking-mouse around here! No

Re: Quest for *nix C/C++ IDE

2005-09-05 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Mon, 2005-09-05 at 12:29 +0300, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 11:44:11AM +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 09:45 -0700, Nzer Zaidenberg wrote: Real developers (like me) use gvim and Makefiles like God intended us to work. Amen to that! vim

Re: Quest for *nix C/C++ IDE

2005-09-05 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 12:29:14PM +0300, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 11:44:11AM +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 09:45 -0700, Nzer Zaidenberg wrote: Real developers (like me) use gvim and Makefiles like God intended us to work. Amen to that!

RE: Quest for *nix C/C++ IDE

2005-09-05 Thread Tzahi Fadida
I use cscope instead of the regular ctags in gvim. Regards, tzahi. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gilboa Davara Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 10:44 AM To: IL List Subject: Re: Quest for *nix C/C++ IDE On Sun, 2005

Re: Quest for *nix C/C++ IDE

2005-09-05 Thread Peter
On Mon, 5 Sep 2005, Gilboa Davara wrote: On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 09:45 -0700, Nzer Zaidenberg wrote: Real developers (like me) use gvim and Makefiles like God intended us to work. Amen to that! vim + ctags. period. We don't use-no-stinking-mouse around here! No sirrie! Actually you can use

Re: Quest for *nix C/C++ IDE

2005-09-05 Thread Leonid Podolny
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I was very happy with cscope until I started working with kernel. For some reason, it was totally impossible to work with -- missing whole directory trees, function definitions, etc. I also tried eclipse, but the only thing that was able to reliably

Re: Quest for *nix C/C++ IDE

2005-09-05 Thread Dov Grobgeld
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 02:05:49AM +0300, guy keren wrote: [stuff deleted] p.s. you will _realy_ want to make sure you're using Makefiles, and not some proprietary project file format, in order to build your software, and so you'll want to make sure that any IDE you choose does not lock you

Quest for *nix C/C++ IDE

2005-09-04 Thread Michael Sternberg
Hello We're looking for recomendations on *nix IDE. Following virtues are seeked: 1. Multiplatform. We will develop on Linux and SunOS. Maybe AIX and HP in the future. 2. Truly integrated. That is, good editor, source browser and visual debugger in one bottle. Never mind that it will use

Re: Quest for *nix C/C++ IDE

2005-09-04 Thread Danny Lieberman
Michael Your IDE options on Linux are a bit limited. Most real programmers seem to stick with Emacs. My personal experience with Eclipse is that the IDE is non-standard, very java and web oriented, slow and prone to crashing. Having said that, they seem to be making an effort to be

Re: Quest for *nix C/C++ IDE

2005-09-04 Thread Marc A. Volovic
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What about Eclipse? I think it was designed to satisfy many needs such as yours. (Though it probably fails on the light item.) Eclipse is great. It is big, fat, slow, crashes often, does not like anything the developers did not like in the first place and is also a

Re: Quest for *nix C/C++ IDE

2005-09-04 Thread Daniel Feiglin
Take a look at CRiSP - http://www.vital.com/ The only item in your list below that it does not answer is 3. I don't now of any IDE that does. Surely that is a debugging function? Michael Sternberg wrote: Hello We're looking for recomendations on *nix IDE. Following virtues are seeked: 1.

Re: Quest for *nix C/C++ IDE

2005-09-04 Thread Nzer Zaidenberg
Real developers (like me) use gvim and Makefiles like God intended us to work. lesser beings... use slickedit or kdevelop. slickedit cost money but rumers says its worth it. personally i use vi and terminal and debug with dbx natively :-) but i guess this is not what sane people would use.

Re: Quest for *nix C/C++ IDE

2005-09-04 Thread michael
Thanks for your comments, Danny, codeblocks looks interesting. I'll be checking it out. Michael On Sun, 4 Sep 2005, Danny Lieberman wrote: Michael Your IDE options on Linux are a bit limited. Most real programmers seem to stick with Emacs. My personal experience with Eclipse is that the

Re: Quest for *nix C/C++ IDE

2005-09-04 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On א', 2005-09-04 at 19:26 +0200, Danny Lieberman wrote: Michael Your IDE options on Linux are a bit limited. Most real programmers seem to stick with Emacs. My personal experience with Eclipse is that the IDE is non-standard, very java and web oriented, slow and prone to crashing.

Re: Quest for *nix C/C++ IDE

2005-09-04 Thread guy keren
On Sun, 4 Sep 2005, Michael Sternberg wrote: We're looking for recomendations on *nix IDE. oh, brother... you've opened the un-satisfiable can-of-worms... Following virtues are seeked: 1. Multiplatform. We will develop on Linux and SunOS. Maybe AIX and HP in the future. you forgot one

Re: Quest for *nix C/C++ IDE

2005-09-04 Thread Danny Lieberman
Guy, Michael IMHO - Visual C/C++ (the Visual studio 2005 Express version has a free free download, and is 49$ for the production rls) is head and shoulders ahead above Eclipse, cross-development for Linux is just a question of makefiles, and it DOES work quite well - we went this route a