Re: OT Re: Hebrew Linux from IBM?

2001-11-28 Thread Diego G . Iastrubni
On 2001 November? 26 ,Monday 01:24, Nadav Har'El wrote: Not true... Almost all Gnu software, except perhaps GNOME, was very much alive before Linux. Emacs, Gcc, Gdb, Bash, Groff, GNU make, bison, fileutils, just as a few examples, and non-gnu stuff like Ghostscript, Tex, X-Windows, TCL/TK and

RE: Hebrew Linux from IBM?

2001-11-26 Thread Matitiahu Allouche
Shai Bentin wrote: Well, Usually IBM used to do its localization using a group (a company it owned) called Softel, which was set in Jerusalem. When IGSI was established IBM incorporated Softel into IGSI. It may have taken some of the localization development and moved it into IBM Haifa. The

Re: Hebrew Linux from IBM?

2001-11-26 Thread dov
Shalom Matitiahu, First of all I am always very impressed with the work carried out and sponsered by IBM. Please keep it up! I wonder if your group has an official road map of what areas you will spend energy (and funding) in with regards to BiDi in the near future. Especially I wonder if you

Re: Hebrew Linux from IBM?

2001-11-26 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 09:15:56PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * BiDi in the wv project (library for reading MicroSoft documents). Looks out of wv's scope to me. IMHO, wv should simply return Unicode data to AbiWord, KWord etc. which do their own bidi (both of them do now, with the advent

Re: Hebrew Linux from IBM?

2001-11-25 Thread Eli Marmor
Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: those 2 projects is very welcome to the IL linux community, but is there something more that IBM didn't reveal and planning to reveal next month? We all will be more clever after December 5. And this is true for Rational plans too (discussed here 2-3 days ago). But don't

Re: Hebrew Linux from IBM?

2001-11-25 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Nov 25, 2001, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote about Hebrew Linux from IBM?: As usual mr. Dudi Goldman made some mistakes 2. Contrary to the belief - you CAN charge money for a GPL application (provided that it comes with the source, and for a reasonable amount). Of course you can once you

OT Re: Hebrew Linux from IBM?

2001-11-25 Thread guy keren
On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Sun, Nov 25, 2001, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote about Hebrew Linux from IBM?: As usual mr. Dudi Goldman made some mistakes 2. Contrary to the belief - you CAN charge money for a GPL application (provided that it comes with the source, and for a

Re: Hebrew Linux from IBM?

2001-11-25 Thread Ely Levy
IBM also doing bidi support for open office and btw IBM only did bidi support for the renderer of mozilla not for the printing. Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Eli Marmor wrote: Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: those 2 projects is very welcome to the

Re: OT Re: Hebrew Linux from IBM?

2001-11-25 Thread dov
I also saw the article and there were a quite a few thinsg that irretated me: * Dudi Goldman does not seem to understand that all that Linux is doing, has been doing, and will be doing is kernel work. We all take it quite leasurly that the whole system is being called Linux and we know

Re: OT Re: Hebrew Linux from IBM?

2001-11-25 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
On Sunday 25 November 2001 18:35 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He doesn't even mention the abbreviation GNU in the article, though he got the stuff about Richard Stalman and his manifesto right. Oof, I hate this GNU-before-linux-thing! Mr. RMS has met once Elizabeth from Linux Weekly News

Re: OT Re: Hebrew Linux from IBM?

2001-11-25 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * About Torvalds comments - being from Scandinavia, I am not surprised at all about them. They all fit the Why cannot everyone in the world get along just like we do? attitude. What do you mean? Like the Norwegians and the Swedes? No love lost there, to put it

RE: Hebrew Linux from IBM?

2001-11-25 Thread Shai Bentin
Well, Usually IBM used to do its localization using a group (a company it owned) called Softel, which was set in Jerusalem. When IGSI was established IBM incorporated Softel into IGSI. It may have taken some of the localization development and moved it into IBM Haifa. The people in tel aviv are

Re: OT Re: Hebrew Linux from IBM?

2001-11-25 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Nov 25, 2001, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote about Re: OT Re: Hebrew Linux from IBM?: ... True - GNU stuff was available before Linux, just like the *BSD stuff was before Linux available - but once Linux became wildly acceptible and popular - there has been MUCH more GNU stuff