Tzafrir Cohen wrote on 2003-09-22:
Not only for NT. Lately support has been withdrawn for win95 and win98.
The support contracts from RH and SuSE for their enterprise products
is for 5-6 years. More than the time since the launch of both win95 and
winnt.
Not since the launch of win95 - they
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Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 1:56 AM
To: linux ILUG
Subject: Re: Propaganda Point (was: Re: linux support companies in Israel)
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 01:40:09PM +0300, Omer Zak wrote:
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gil Freund wrote:
Before one hails and advocates OSS
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 01:40:09PM +0300, Omer Zak wrote:
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gil Freund wrote:
Before one hails and advocates OSS one has to educated for better IT
thinking:
Find out what the business requirement are.
Strip out MS-talk (mail and
Gabor Szabo wrote:
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Where are the companies that provide support for Linux in Israel ?
Why does anyone expect on this list that any company will reasonably
evaluate Linux if it cannot find several vendors that could support it.
I hardly think this is that main issue. Most major IT firms
Interesting points from someone who probably understands
th IT market in Israel.
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Gil Freund wrote:
If you will go to the oparation manager most Israeli bussinesses, they
will not have a clue on how to change vendors or IT outsourcing, be it
Linux, Windows or Novell.
Gabor Szabo wrote:
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If these are true, then what is the value proposition of FOSS in Israel ?
Technical superiority ?
Yes! First and foremost!
Ease of use ?
Tricky question. Easy for who? Easy how?
A sysdmin, a user and manager will have a completely different set of
perspectives on what
Gil Freund wrote:
Gabor Szabo wrote:
Freedom ?
Not in the Israeli business vocabulary...
Before one hails and advocates OSS one has to educated for better IT
thinking:
Find out what the business requirement are.
Strip out MS-talk (mail and scheduling instead of exchange...).
List the true
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gil Freund wrote:
Before one hails and advocates OSS one has to educated for better IT
thinking:
Find out what the business requirement are.
Strip out MS-talk (mail and scheduling instead of exchange...).
List the true functional
Speaking of BSA and M$abuses, how about emphasizing the fact that MS are
withdrawing WinNT support and forcing you to upgrade your legacy WinNT
systems to WinXP if you want patches against threats like MSBlaster or
SoBig.F?
1) BSA- Whenever I talk to an MS user about the option to work with a
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Gabor Szabo wrote:
Where are the companies that provide support for Linux in Israel ?
Why does anyone expect on this list that any company will reasonably
evaluate Linux if it cannot find several vendors that could support it.
I was actually approached by one company
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Rony Shapiro wrote:
Where are these vendors in Israel ?
Maybe HaMakor should maintain a list of individuals and companies that
can provide support for Linux.
http://iglu.org.il/cgi-bin/consultants/main.pl would be a good place to
start, perhaps. (Discalimer: I'm
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 16:50, Gabor Szabo wrote:
This is a start though I guess if Shachar is not in the list it
either means he was not aware of it or he does not think it
has any value to the potential customer.
There are others who aren't on the list. The reasons are various, and
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 16:08, Gabor Szabo wrote:
Shlomo Yona wrote in another thread about laptop installation:
I wonder if there is any local (Israeli) company or if there are
individuals who are willing to tackle and solve such software/hardware
configurations problems (for a fee,
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
Very partial list of various levels and kinds of support providers:
thanks
You might also want to check my .sig :-)
nice name !
Where are these vendors in Israel ?
The exact same place they were 2 years ago in the US - Israel IT market (I'm
Gabor Szabo wrote:
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Rony Shapiro wrote:
Where are these vendors in Israel ?
Maybe HaMakor should maintain a list of individuals and companies that
can provide support for Linux.
http://iglu.org.il/cgi-bin/consultants/main.pl would be a good place to
start, perhaps.
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 21:45, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
Gabor
The reason this list is out of date is that there is no way to say Hey,
I'm no longer a member, please remove my name, and no incentive either.
You may adopt the following model: once in a while (say a year) a
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