Palm-Linux-Bluetooth (was Re: my new Palm Zire 72)

2005-07-15 Thread Shlomo Solomon
As I already wrote, I'm now able to Hotsync. However, I'm still interested in answers to the following Bluetooth questions. BTW - as I understand it, Bluetooth would also be useful for Internet connection and e-mail. On Saturday 09 July 2005 21:31, Shlomo Solomon wrote: Bluetooth might be a

Re: my new Palm Zire 72

2005-07-11 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Sat, Jul 09, 2005 at 09:31:53PM +0300, Shlomo Solomon wrote: (Snipped Bluetooth question - I never used Bluetooth) I already read your later message about 95% success. So :-). am also pretty sure it's a (partly) physical problem of the connection, not (only) a software one. I doubt that.

Re: my new Palm Zire 72

2005-07-10 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Saturday 09 July 2005 21:31, Shlomo Solomon wrote: Before I answer Yedidyah's latest post on this subject, I'd like to ask if Bluetooth might be a solution to my Hotsync problem. The Zire 72 has built-in Bluetooth and I know MDK10.1 supports Bluetooth. I've Googled and found that connecting

Re: my new Palm Zire 72 - resnd

2005-07-10 Thread Shlomo Solomon
I sent this over 2 hours ago and it didn't reach the list. On Saturday 09 July 2005 21:31, Shlomo Solomon wrote: Before I answer Yedidyah's latest post on this subject, I'd like to ask if Bluetooth might be a solution to my Hotsync problem. The Zire 72 has built-in Bluetooth and I know MDK10.1

Re: my new Palm Zire 72

2005-07-10 Thread Shlomo Solomon
Before I answer Yedidyah's latest post on this subject, I'd like to ask if Bluetooth might be a solution to my Hotsync problem. The Zire 72 has built-in Bluetooth and I know MDK10.1 supports Bluetooth. I've Googled and found that connecting Palm to Linux via Bluetooth is do-able. My questions:

Re: my new Palm Zire 72

2005-07-08 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Friday 08 July 2005 05:37, Shlomo Solomon wrote: On Friday 08 July 2005 00:38, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: Can you at least rmmod visor and usb_serial (and modprobe them if needed), then repeat the tests? I've made some progress, so I'm on the right track, but . 1 - I figured out why I

Re: my new Palm Zire 72

2005-07-08 Thread Matan Ziv-Av
On Fri, 8 Jul 2005, Shlomo Solomon wrote: 3 - I did alot of experimenting (including connecting to different USB plug both with and without a hub). For some reason, out of abot 20 experiments I did in the past hour, most of the timed out on the Palm, but in 2 cases I got a dta error message

Re: my new Palm Zire 72

2005-07-08 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Friday 08 July 2005 10:05, Shlomo Solomon wrote: I now intend to clean everything up and make a few more tries. I'll try to keep acurate records of what I do and see if the log entries can be of any help. OK - I did several experiments. Unfortunately, I was unable to reproduce the

Re: my new Palm Zire 72

2005-07-08 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Friday 08 July 2005 13:00, Matan Ziv-Av wrote: On Fri, 8 Jul 2005, Shlomo Solomon wrote: 3 - I did alot of experimenting (including connecting to different USB plug both with and without a hub). For some reason, out of abot 20 experiments I did in the past hour, most of the timed out on

Re: my new Palm Zire 72

2005-07-08 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 02:36:59PM +0300, Shlomo Solomon wrote: On Friday 08 July 2005 10:05, Shlomo Solomon wrote: I now intend to clean everything up and make a few more tries. I'll try to keep acurate records of what I do and see if the log entries can be of any help. OK - I did

Re: my new Palm Zire 72

2005-07-08 Thread Amit Aronovitch
Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: There is no point in doing Ctrl-Z. If you want to shoot - shoot, don't talk. Ctrl-C. and if this does not work, you can also try Crtl-\ (backslash) (sometimes progs stop responding to SIGINT, but they still respond to this - it sends SIGQUIT)

Re: my new Palm Zire 72

2005-07-07 Thread Shlomo Solomon
I forgot to mention, in my previous message, that I did check the Palm on my kids' Win98 computer and was able to hotsync - so this is not a problem with the Palm. Also, since my LINUX box has no problem communicating with several other USB devices (scanner, printer, camera, mouse,

Re: my new Palm Zire 72 - resend

2005-07-07 Thread Shlomo Solomon
strange - I sent 2 messages to the list, but only the 2nd one got througt - so here's the 1st one again. On Tuesday 05 July 2005 22:59, Shlomo Solomon wrote: On Tuesday 05 July 2005 19:52, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: OK. Let's start from the very beginning. First, start from a clean known

Re: my new Palm Zire 72

2005-07-07 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Tuesday 05 July 2005 22:59, Shlomo Solomon wrote: On Tuesday 05 July 2005 19:52, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: OK. Let's start from the very beginning. First, start from a clean known state. Either after a reboot, or try to For completely unrelated reasons, re-booting is not an option today.

Re: my new Palm Zire 72 - resend

2005-07-07 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 12:02:12AM +0300, Shlomo Solomon wrote: strange - I sent 2 messages to the list, but only the 2nd one got througt - so here's the 1st one again. On Tuesday 05 July 2005 22:59, Shlomo Solomon wrote: On Tuesday 05 July 2005 19:52, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: OK.

Re: my new Palm Zire 72 - resend

2005-07-07 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Friday 08 July 2005 00:38, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: Can you at least rmmod visor and usb_serial (and modprobe them if needed), then repeat the tests? Sorry, I forgot to write that I tried that and was not able to remove the modules. I didn't try --force because the man page says this is

Re: my new Palm Zire 72

2005-07-05 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Tuesday 05 July 2005 02:31, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: But, as I said, some are actually accessible from ttyUSB0 and some from ttyUSB1. I wanted to find out automatically which one, which wasn't easy (found no real info on google). So I simply tried, and at least for the first 3, I use the

Re: my new Palm Zire 72

2005-07-05 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Tuesday 05 July 2005 02:31, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: But, as I said, some are actually accessible from ttyUSB0 and some from ttyUSB1. I wanted to find out automatically which one, which wasn't easy (found no real info on google). So I simply tried, and at least for the first 3, I use the

Re: my new Palm Zire 72

2005-07-05 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 06:23:30PM +0300, Shlomo Solomon wrote: [snip] I still think it's strange that plugging in the USB cable causes the Kpilot icon to pop up, so something is, at least partly, set up properly. Not necessarily. Something is set up to respond to USB hotplug events. Maybe not

Re: my new Palm Zire 72

2005-07-05 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Tuesday 05 July 2005 19:52, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: OK. Let's start from the very beginning. First, start from a clean known state. Either after a reboot, or try to For completely unrelated reasons, re-booting is not an option today. I hope I'll be able to do the tests you recommended in

my new Palm Zire 72

2005-07-04 Thread Shlomo Solomon
This should be easy, but for some reason, I can't seem to sync my new USB Palm. My previous Palm was a serial one and pilot-xfer -p/dev/ttyS1 worked fine. When I plugged in the USB cable on my new Zire 72, a KPILOT icon popped up on the KDE desktop so I thought - wow, this is going to be

Re: my new Palm Zire 72

2005-07-04 Thread Lior Kaplan
why not to link from /dev/pilot to /dev/usb ? (or whatever the device is called on your system). Shlomo Solomon wrote: This should be easy, but for some reason, I can't seem to sync my new USB Palm. My previous Palm was a serial one and pilot-xfer -p/dev/ttyS1 worked fine. When I plugged

Re: my new Palm Zire 72

2005-07-04 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 09:07:02PM +0300, Shlomo Solomon wrote: This should be easy, but for some reason, I can't seem to sync my new USB Palm. My previous Palm was a serial one and pilot-xfer -p/dev/ttyS1 worked fine. When I plugged in the USB cable on my new Zire 72, a KPILOT icon

Re: my new Palm Zire 72

2005-07-04 Thread Matan Ziv-Av
On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, Shlomo Solomon wrote: When I plugged in the USB cable on my new Zire 72, a KPILOT icon popped up on the KDE desktop so I thought - wow, this is going to be easy. But, although the icon popped up (and usbview also recognizes the Palm), it doesn't work. I tried autodetection

Re: my new Palm Zire 72

2005-07-04 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Monday 04 July 2005 21:43, Lior Kaplan wrote: why not to link from /dev/pilot to /dev/usb ? (or whatever the device is called on your system). as I wrote before, I didn't find any new device in /dev - maybe I'm not looking in the right place. On Monday 04 July 2005 21:46, Yedidyah Bar-David

Re: my new Palm Zire 72

2005-07-04 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 10:56:55PM +0300, Shlomo Solomon wrote: On Monday 04 July 2005 21:46, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: USB Palms use either /dev/ttyUSB0 or /dev/ttyUSB1, depending on model. Use e.g. something like 'dlpsh -p /dev/ttyUSB0' (from pilot-link) to find out which one, and make

Re: my new Palm Zire 72

2005-07-04 Thread Matan Ziv-Av
On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, Shlomo Solomon wrote: On my Fedora system, this is the content of /etc/udev/rules.d/10-visor.rules: BUS=usb, SYSFS{product}=Palm Handheld*, KERNEL=ttyUSB*, SYMLINK=pilot If you are using another system based on udev, it might be similar. If you don't use udev, just create

Re: my new Palm Zire 72

2005-07-04 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Monday 04 July 2005 23:43, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: If not, maybe you need to manually load the module - I don't know if hotplug does that automatically (and you did not say if you use hotplug but I guess you do). # modprobe visor not necessary - the module is loaded: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: my new Palm Zire 72

2005-07-04 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 01:32:33AM +0300, Shlomo Solomon wrote: OK - I think I'm making some progress here. Each time I connect or At last :-) disconnect the USB cable, there are changes in the /dev directory. Notice that there are several USB devices being created - always two at a time.