RE: Caldera 2.3 Netware Printing
Title: RE: Caldera 2.3 Netware Printing Hi, there should be a nprint command that you have to use to write a script that you can define in your printcap under of=. That's how I did it. Would you mind explaining a little bit more about this script, what it should do, is it a print filter etc. What interests me more is wether you logged in into NDS proper (giving a name like xxx.yyy.zzz) and subsequent mounts where without password. Also can you mount an NDS server ? How much is the Caldera Netware client really NDS aware ? I don't know a lot about Netware and NDS, just some basic client-side things. I did manage to nwlogin to NDS tree as nwlogin -t tree -u xxx.yyy.zzz, then ansewring the password. After this i can see our corporate NDS structure (almost all) under /Netware/NDS without any additional mounting. Schlomo On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, [windows-1255] ôåôåá éáâðé wrote: Anyone has an experience with Caldera ? I have chosen this distro due to it's Netware support. I did menage to login to NDS tree, but failed to define our Netware printers. There is almost nothing in CalderaSystems site that can help me. There Getting started and Netware Client are both examples of bad documentation, and their COAS does not know anything about Netware printers. I successfully installed the Netware printers in past for Red Hat 5.2, and though that famous Netware for Linux is even easier... = Evgeny Popov == [EMAIL PROTECTED] = = Water Management SCADA Centers Developer = = ELECTRICAL MECHANICAL SERVICES = = SUBSIDIARY OF MEKOROT WATER CO.LTD =
linux.org.il webmaster ?
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Looking for perl programmers
Hi, Actcom is looking for perl programmers. We are located in Haifa. CVs can be sent directly to me, via email, or to fax 04-8676088, please specify "for Uri, job 402" Thanks, Uri = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Linux-IL meeting on Friday?
see what I mean? this message took 3 days to get through the huji mail server! (and the headers don't mention listar, they mention majordomo, what's going on?) On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, Chen Shapira wrote: Hi all, 'bout the meeting tomorrow -- Ira Abramov ; whois:IA58 ; www.scso.com ; all around Linux enthusiast We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated. (seen in someone's .signature) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IGLU@eGroups
Is Linux-IL a big source of spam? Is it harvested? Any evidence? I believe the plasma-gate archives are. since the addresses are not linked anymore, I can't say if it still is, as my dedicated return address doesn't get spammed (yet). fact is too many here got the same spams (like me and Omer Zak get frequent spam in Turkish). This is just 2. Anyone else? I don't recall any Turkish spams. it should be swift and painless. Excellent. because people DON'T. I got some 8-9 requests to resend the meeting announcement in private Email. makes little sense. And you think that you won't get those if the calendar is available in some other form? By all means, let's have a calendar, if only to reduce the number of personal queries to 6-7. All I am saying is I am kinda sceptical about the effect (I am for it in any case). WHAT maintainer? A very valid point. the calendar on Egroups sends prescheduled messages to the list if requested. and there will be a central place to update events by ENYONE ON THE LIST, no need to trust a single contact webmaster-of-the-month. Verification of the source of a change won't be an issue, I suppose. I do. all those unsub requests on the list drive me mad sometimes, and I can't do s*t about it. And why do you think they won't? Are you saying that people cannot unsibscribe, email the owner, don't get any answer for a long time, and them post a single word "unsubscribe" to the list out of desperation? It's not my impression, but if that is the case then this is also a very valid reason. not in person, except for my own 35 person tech news list, which works like a charm. I thought it disappeared. Is it still there? I liked it. How do I subscribe? -- Oleg Goldshmidt | BLOOMBERG L.P. (BFM) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] "... We work by wit, and not by witchcraft; And wit depends on dilatory time." - W. Shakespeare. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IDC meeting remarks
On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: I just wanted to blow off some thoughts and feelings on the meeting: 2. The ipchains lecture by Ira was also very interesting, but demands a more in-depth workshop of Linux security and firewalling (I imagine something like setting up a firewall step-by step and showing at each step what it blocks and how to still break in). I was meaning to do a more in-depth lecture, starting with the basic concepts of the IP stack and corelating it to the OSI 7-layer model, a short TCP schematic, and about the need for the filters. I still intend to give a much more serious talk about it. this friday it simply wasn't planned and prepared (I was caught off-guard with some of the questions), I was only trying to give the audience a taste of what's coming, and did a highly technical, stacato short lecture seeing who the audience was. I promiss a "calmer" more detailed lecture next time when I prepare it right :-) 3. The location was very nice, the lecture class perfect (After finding it, that is). The only real problem with the IDC is that it is not too well connected to public transportation so that only people with cars (or a ride in one) can come (and go when they want). there are 2-3 lines connecting the closest main road to the Herzlia central station, I admit it leaves a lot to be desired, that's why I offered to pick people up from the Raanana- kfar saba junction (where there are dozens of lines to all over the country) 4. The time was totally unsuitable for such a meeting at such a location at this time of the year: I might have been the only 'dati' person attending (and can imagine the other dati members not coming because of I agree. we did have a vote on days and friday won, and then in the vote on hours, the morning won. however 11am was the earliest I could get a room. for next month I have a lecture room for te whole day, so we may start gathering as easly as 9am for all I care (I'll peel myself out of bed for the event!) for March I'll try to book a room ASAP, so it could again be as early in the morning as possible. another option is to look at Saturday night... but I don't think it would be too popular. (11 am) and/or the place are not good. If the meeting woul have been in a highly connected place (like for example the TA central busstaion) than I could have left whenever I felt that I should go home, but like this of course I had no choice. you didn't have a ride to Jerusalem?! I was aware of the fact, and asked people during my bit about IPchains several times if it was getting late, and tried to keep it short anyway, please don't be shy to ask to break out of the party next time :-) BTW, I suggested to make a Linux picnic (some month ago) with the idea in mind that at such an event also people who usually can't come because of family limitations could come since we would have a by-program for the accompanying family. Perhaps we should re-activate this idea, then it died out because of lack of interest. I fully agree that such events would be fun, but we can only hav them on some khol hamo'ed, because Shabat is off and during the week people work or study. let's all work together to make ILUG (or IGLU) more alive. IGLU, let's make it official. Alex: please put it on the webpage. -- Ira Abramov ; whois:IA58 ; www.scso.com ; all around Linux enthusiast "Are [Linux users] lemmings collectively jumping off of the cliff of reliable, well-engineered commercial software?" (By Matt Welsh) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: linux.org.il webmaster ?
For all those interested : the correct address for linux.org.il webmaster is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (as it should be:) Sorry if i'll be a little slow on response , since my modem got fryed and I'm not likely to get a new one b4 the end of this week. P.S. And yes , I know that the unsubscribe/subscribe links are broken. From: Uri Bruck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: linux.org.il webmaster ? Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 11:30:38 +0200 (EET) Hello, I am looking for the correct email address of the linux.org.il webmaster. I believe that most recently Alex Dubrovsky took the post, although I may be wrong. Thanks, Uri = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards Alex Dubrovsky Q: What's tiny and yellow and very, very, dangerous? A: A canary with the super-user password. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IGLU@eGroups
on the whole it seems Oleg sgrees with me on almost everything, yet there is the Israeli push to prove me wrong :-) On 9 Jan 2000, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: the calendar on Egroups sends prescheduled messages to the list if requested. and there will be a central place to update events by ENYONE ON THE LIST, no need to trust a single contact webmaster-of-the-month. Verification of the source of a change won't be an issue, I suppose. I think it gets logged, but if there will be problems with it, we'll just block it through a moderator. everything is configurable, pretty much. I do. all those unsub requests on the list drive me mad sometimes, and I can't do s*t about it. And why do you think they won't? Are you saying that people cannot unsibscribe, email the owner, don't get any answer for a long time, and them post a single word "unsubscribe" to the list out of desperation? It's not my impression, but if that is the case then this is also a very valid reason. I could manually unsub them, and the owner address can be assigned to many people and reassigned on the fly, so we don't wait for Vadik's next khamshush. not in person, except for my own 35 person tech news list, which works like a charm. I thought it disappeared. Is it still there? I liked it. How do I subscribe? never went away. everybody are free to subscribe and share info: http://egroups.com/group/TechNews/ and one more specific about high-tech stocks me and others follow: http://egroups.com/group/GeekStockTalk/ -- Ira Abramov ; whois:IA58 ; www.scso.com ; all around Linux enthusiast "If you want to travel around the world and be invited to speak at a lot of different places, just write a Unix operating system." (By Linus Torvalds) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IGLU@eGroups
I want to clarify my point, since at least Ira didn't seem to understand my suggestion. I did not suggest listproc as the correct solution - although I have been using it for a long time and never had any privileges and only did remote management. In my opinion, all mailing list software packages are basically the same. They should allow digests, vacation mode, subscribe, unsubscribe, and moderation from time to time. Majordomo, listar, listproc or any other all have these basic needs. But what I did is something e-groups offers: don't hold the actual list at e-groups, but use your existing service, and only subscribe the e-group as a non-digest user of the list. This normally requires intervention on the part of the list owner, as the e-group can't answer its subscription confirmation message, and should be confirmed manually. Once this is done, however, the list can continue to operate in the same manner it did so far - and I for one have no complaints on the listar service - but be archived on e-groups, with all their bells and whistles, including that spam protection. This way, e-groups does not put any advertisments on the messages themselves - because it is not part of the sending mechanism. There are only the advertisments in the archive itself. I think this suggestion is the ideal compromise between the two points of views presented here. One: don't fix what ain't broken, don't require people to migrate to another software. Two: e-groups has a lot to offer (spam protection of addresses, calendar, polls, bells and whistles). Comments? Clarifications? Herouth = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IGLU@eGroups
Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: on the whole it seems Oleg sgrees with me on almost everything, yet there is the Israeli push to prove me wrong :-) I guess I am Israeli ;-) I actually stated in my first posting that I didn't have a problem with moving to eGroups. I thought that some issues had to be discussed though, so I raised them. There was no conscious attempt to prove you wrong, in the same sense that there was no conscious attempt on your part to stage a revolution ;-) I am still sceptical about the expected effects, but I'll be most happy to be proved wrong on every count ;-) never went away. everybody are free to subscribe and share info: http://egroups.com/group/TechNews/ and one more specific about high-tech stocks me and others follow: http://egroups.com/group/GeekStockTalk/ Thanks. -- Oleg Goldshmidt | BLOOMBERG L.P. (BFM) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] "... We work by wit, and not by witchcraft; And wit depends on dilatory time." - W. Shakespeare. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
eGroups moderated?
What's the attached message about? Will we be moderated (a good thing in general, but who will take the job?), and will I get such an email every time I post to the list (a bad thing in general, but I can filter it)? -- Oleg Goldshmidt | BLOOMBERG L.P. (BFM) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] "... We work by wit, and not by witchcraft; And wit depends on dilatory time." - W. Shakespeare. --- Start of forwarded message --- Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 10:35:31 - From: "eGroups.com Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Posting sent to the moderator for approval To: Oleg Goldshmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your posting (Subject: "Re: IGLU@eGroups") has been sent to the moderator ("[EMAIL PROTECTED]") for approval. When the moderator approves the posting, it will be automatically distributed to the group. --- End of forwarded message --- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IGLU@eGroups
On 9 Jan 2000, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: issues had to be discussed though, so I raised them. There was no conscious attempt to prove you wrong, in the same sense that there was no conscious attempt on your part to stage a revolution ;-) I am still sceptical about the expected effects, but I'll be most happy to be proved wrong on every count ;-) well, at least on the speed we can't argue.. your reply got to me direct 12 minutes before it got here from huji... :-) -- Ira Abramov ; whois:IA58 ; www.scso.com ; all around Linux enthusiast Now I know someone out there is going to claim, "Well then, UNIX is intuitive, because you only need to learn 5000 commands, and then everything else follows from that! Har har har!" (Andy Bates in comp.os.linux.misc, on "intuitive interfaces", slightly defending Macs.) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: eGroups moderated?
On 9 Jan 2000, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: What's the attached message about? Will we be moderated (a good thing in general, but who will take the job?), and will I get such an email every time I post to the list (a bad thing in general, but I can filter it)? no, it just means you tried to post w/o subscribing first, obviously we can't allow non-subscribers post, now can we? -- Ira Abramov ; whois:IA58 ; www.scso.com ; all around Linux enthusiast 'Mounten' wird fuer drei Dinge benutzt: 'Aufsitzen' auf Pferde, 'einklinken' von Festplatten in Dateisysteme, und, nun, 'besteigen' beim Sex. (Christa Keil in a German posting: "Mounting is used for three things: climbing on a horse, linking in a hard disk unit in data systems, and, well, mounting during sex".) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: eGroups moderated?
I guess I know what happened: my message was forwarded to egroups before I got subscribed, so it had to go through a moderator. Gurus, is that right? There is no problem then - sorry. -- Oleg Goldshmidt | BLOOMBERG L.P. (BFM) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] "... We work by wit, and not by witchcraft; And wit depends on dilatory time." - W. Shakespeare. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Y2K bug in hdate and hcal
On Sun, Jan 09, 2000, Kenneth G.Kay wrote about "Y2K bug in hdate and hcal": Since my previous message on this subject did not elicit any responses, I will try again. hcal and hdate are Unix utilities for converting between Gregorian and Hebrew dates. "Distribution 5" (July 1992) of these programs worked well on Linux until Jan. 1 but now give the wrong dates (e.g., it tells me that today is 10 Shvat 3860). I have seen a more recent version (dated 1995), compiled for AIX, that is not infected by this bug. Does anyone know where I can find updated, bug-free sources for these programs so that I can compile them for Linux? Ken You can also take a look at ftp://ftp.math.technion.ac.il/calendar/gauss The program there, 'taarich' uses a different algorithm, and gives correct results - see my signature below for an example. I've verified that the hdate I have (also available in the above ftp site) indeed gives the incorrect results you described. -- Nadav Har'El|Sunday, Jan 9 2000, 2 Shevat 5760 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |Cats aren't clean, they're just covered http://nadav.harel.org.il |with cat spit. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: IGLU@eGroups
Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't know we had digests in listar, I stand corrected, They're badly composed (just all texts in a single message, instead of being properly MIME-encapsulated). As a result, replying to a message in a digest is quite a pain. BUT - egroups do this stupid thing, too :^) and header digests ARE smaller. they only list headers and links directly to the full messages in the archive. really useful IMHO. I personally find header digests by and large useless, but it's MHO, too. so, once more, please visit the site, try to subscribe and play with the features. if no one objects, or maybe even decides it's the coolest thing since modular monolithic kernels, we can make the move in a week or two. All in all, I'd vote for egroups, given we get the anti-spam feature. But who can garantee their spam policy (or, in general, all service policies) won't change in the future - like charging some money per email/KB/time period/list etc? Regards, Evgeny -- / Evgeny Stambulchik [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / Plasma Laboratory, Weizmann Institute of Science, Israel \ \ | Phone : (972)8-934-3610 == | == FAX : (972)8-934-3491 | | | URL :http://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il/~fnevgeny/ | | | Finger for PGP key =+ | |__| = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re[2]: IGLU@eGroups
On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, Evgeny Stambulchik wrote: All in all, I'd vote for egroups, given we get the anti-spam feature. But who can garantee their spam policy (or, in general, all service policies) won't change in the future - like charging some money per email/KB/time period/list etc? their policy guarantees that. the day they break it, thy will pay dearly by having 90% of their users walk out... -- Ira Abramov ; whois:IA58 ; www.scso.com ; all around Linux enthusiast "Even more amazing was the realization that God has Internet access. I wonder if He has a full newsfeed?" (By Matt Welsh) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IGLU@eGroups
I try to stay out of this argument , as after all I'm preety new and don't really know how you handle things here . but few short notes 1)HUJI is linked through internet II and I doubt if you could find american ISP that would work faster for you..the few minutes lag till you get a message is from the sendmail/exim that only try to deliver mail at certain times. 2)listar allow far admins and actually linux-il has admins which are not huji people and then can change everything trough e-mail from sub and unsub to rewriting the config file 3)If Ira think me and other list admins doesn't do much I would gladly forward him all the error messages/bounce mistakes I get like 20 of htem per day i avrage. 4)I donno what you want from list-owner or vadik the e-mail address for admin problems is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and one of the admins would answer. 5)the fact I don't activly pushly admin the list is cause I don't know it good enough and it would be kinda rude of me don't you think? if you think you can do better work with egroups go ahead:) sound to me that it's not me who doesn't care about admining the list but you guys who doesn't care about making it a normal webpage:) and btw if you really have problems with 1 guy having access to the webpage just make it somewhere publicy and give access to 4k ppl:) ohh and one last 2 points listar doesn't allow e-mail harvert like i asking the server who subscribed to the list (you can try it it won't let you unless you are admin) and 2 in case you think it's weird you get not spam well hujics does run a spam filter and must spam mail just stops there.. and listar got even another spam filter..but it's hardly used.. if you go to large company like egroups you would have much more chance of getting spam.. well may the force be with you guys:) llp Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
umount -f
I have lost a connection to NFS, but I couldn't umount -f. Is it a bug ? Bye the way, the reason to the failure was a duplicate IP - someone boot a machine with the same IP mine ! Is there any decent way to find that ? It took me quite a while to find that out, and that was after shutting down the Linux machine and pinging/arping from a third one. ~ With a rubber duck, one's never alone. ~ Iftach Hyams [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-4-8315605 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IGLU@eGroups
On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, Ely Levy wrote: I try to stay out of this argument , as after all I'm preety new and don't really know how you handle things here . but few short notes 1)HUJI is linked through internet II and I doubt if you could find american ISP that would work faster for you..the few minutes lag till you get a message is from the sendmail/exim that only try to deliver mail at certain times. the bandwidth is not the problem, the mail server's speed is. I'm happy to know you are hooked up to Internet II though, that's quite an interesting project. point is, like you said, you're new at this, and you don't seem (to me) to be really interested in running it full time, am I wrong? I was once told by Vadik that Linux-il is the busiest list on that server. 2)listar allow far admins and actually linux-il has admins which are not huji people and then can change everything trough e-mail from sub and unsub to rewriting the config file sounds wonderful, can I have such an access too? 3)If Ira think me and other list admins doesn't do much I would gladly forward him all the error messages/bounce mistakes I get like 20 of htem per day i avrage. that's what I'm trying to ease off your back, wouldn't you like that? 20 a day sounds way too high to me, doesn't listar handle bouncing by itself? 4)I donno what you want from list-owner or vadik the e-mail address for admin problems is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and one of the admins would answer. that's the first I have heard of that Email address, listname-owner is the usual standard, and that gets checked once a week or two, check it out. 5)the fact I don't activly pushly admin the list is cause I don't know it good enough and it would be kinda rude of me don't you think? I never meant to insult you, and we never sugested you should make decisions for us. being a list server admin doesn't mean you own the list or moderate it, and it was never expected from you either. if you think you can do better work with egroups go ahead:) I'd take that as a vote "yes"? sound to me that it's not me who doesn't care about admining the list but you guys who doesn't care about making it a normal webpage:) I quit following you here... ohh and one last 2 points listar doesn't allow e-mail harvert like i asking the server who subscribed to the list (you can try it it won't let you unless you are admin) I'm worried about harvesting at plasma-gate. blocking a "who" command is available on majordomo too. and 2 in case you think it's weird you get not spam well hujics does run a spam filter and must spam mail just stops there.. and listar got even another spam filter..but it's hardly used.. you obviously didn't follow the discusions. I didn't complain about spam on the list, I talked about spam to Emails harvested at the archive site. if you go to large company like egroups you would have much more chance of getting spam.. not sure at all, I have had an excellent experiance with them so far. they do it for a living and letting spam in would be a shot in the foot. -- Ira Abramov ; whois:IA58 ; www.scso.com ; all around Linux enthusiast Who wants to remember that escape-x-alt-control-left shift-b puts you into super-edit-debug-compile mode? (Discussion in comp.os.linux.misc on the intuitiveness of commands, especially Emacs.) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IGLU@eGroups
Hi, Ira Abramov! On Sun, Jan 09, 2000 at 07:49:40PM +0200, you wrote the following: 3)If Ira think me and other list admins doesn't do much I would gladly forward him all the error messages/bounce mistakes I get like 20 of htem per day i avrage. that's what I'm trying to ease off your back, wouldn't you like that? 20 a day sounds way too high to me, doesn't listar handle bouncing by itself? Actually, it's about two messages per each message to the list. It was more until the cleanup I did yesterday (unsubscribed many broken addresses). It can be reduced to zero by unsubscribing the other offending addresses, but both are errors that I suspect might be fixed soon so I'll leave them for a few more days. (Listar doesn't handle bouncing by itself, it's not an MTA -- it passes the messages to send to exim, with Sender: linux-il-bounce, and whatever it gets on the linux-il-bounce address, it forwards to the admin.) Generally, my policy is that if the error is fixable, I leave it for a few days, and if it's not fixed anyway, I unsubscribe the person, so when he fixes it he can subscribe back again. 4)I donno what you want from list-owner or vadik the e-mail address for admin problems is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and one of the admins would answer. that's the first I have heard of that Email address, listname-owner is the usual standard, and that gets checked once a week or two, check it out. I think listname-owner also works. In any case, I get the messages intended for moderation, and try to approve them as fast as possible. (FWIW: I got admin access to this list from Ely very recently after he said that he's not interested in it. So you can contact me if you have problems or want changes. But the standard linux-il-* addresses should work anyway (and get to me) so I didn't bother announcing it.) -- Alex Shnitman| http://www.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] +--- http://alexsh.hectic.netUIN 188956PGP key on web page E1 F2 7B 6C A0 31 80 28 63 B8 02 BA 65 C7 8B BA Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. -- Mikko Hänninen PGP signature
Re: umount -f
it's not a bug umount -f works on bsd systems not linux ones:) maybe it's about time someone would had it:) Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, Iftach Hyams wrote: | I have lost a connection to NFS, but I couldn't umount -f. Is it a bug ? | Bye the way, the reason to the failure was a duplicate IP - someone | boot a machine with the same IP mine !Is there any decent way to | find that ? It took me quite a while to find that out, and that was after | shutting down the Linux machine and pinging/arping from a third | one. | | ~ | With a rubber duck, one's never alone. | ~ | Iftach Hyams | [EMAIL PROTECTED]972-4-8315605 | | = | To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with | the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command | echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IDE/ATAPI CD-ROM
Hi Try to see what is the name model of the CD as windows detect it, then see if you can find the cdrom site, maybe you can update the bios or see some relevant information. "Shenderovich, Uri" wrote: Hi anybody, I've purchased some "no-name" CD-ROM x40 and I have a lot of problem with it under Linux . Sometimes I can't mount it , or I can't eject it or it's not possible to read , or . None of these problems is existes under M$. I check this behaviour with different kernels , but the results are the same Previously I had very good Panasonic CR581 x4 and had no problem ever. Somebody have any clue ? Thanks , Uri = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-6-6925757 Fax: 972-6-6925858 http://www.canaan.co.il -- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PRINTER
Hello, If you'll end up deciding to buy a non expensive BW laser postscript printer please drop me a line. I might buy one myself in the very near future so hopefully buying 2 printers at a time might get us a better deal. In particular, I am considering the Lexmark Optra E310. I have an offer from Getter for $450, VAT excluded. I hope they will not withdraw since they made this offer several weeks ago. This model is published by Lexmark with a $400 price tag. I believe it can be bought in the US even for as low as $370, although Getter claims that what they sell has an Hebrew fonts built in. (I am not sure if this alone is really worth the added cost.) --FFA73C32BB244B8A6E1E0C84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi list, I need recommendation to buy a good printer(not an expansive one) that have windows and linux (RH) drivers . Most of printings are text(html,doc),postscript docs. Thank's Tal --FFA73C32BB244B8A6E1E0C84 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit !doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en" html Hi list, brI need recommendation to buy a good printer(bnot an expansive one)/b thatnbsp; have windows and linux (RH) drivers . brMost of printings are text(html,doc),postscript docs. brnbsp; pThank's brTal brnbsp; pnbsp; brnbsp;/html --FFA73C32BB244B8A6E1E0C84-- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: memory problem
i have an old 133MHZ pentium with 32Mb of ram. my linux (red-hat 6.0 kernel 2.2.5-15) detects only 13-14MB. i solved this problem with linux mem=32M at lilo prompt. it's seems to work fine but when i try to run the command startx it gives me an error message: segmentation fault and halt's. is there any other way to solve this. It sounds as if you have memory hole enabled (usually done for isa vga cards). If you don't need the hole, disable it in the bios. If you do have an isa vga card you have a few options: 1. disable the memory hole, so the card can't be used in linear mode, so XF86 will only run at 8bpp. svgalib (and maybe commercial X servers) can still use high color modes. 2. Enable the memory hole and use only 14MB of ram. 3. Enable the hole, and either upgrade to 2.3, or look for a e820 patch for 2.2 kernel. -- Matan Ziv-Av. [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Remote X windows
Hi, I'm looking to put a Linux box at my work for the employees to learn Linux and use it from their Windows NT machines at work, and for me - from home.. I have tried VNC - but it seems that: 1. This program is not built to run for multiple users (you need to run for each one "vncserver") 2. It's SLOW - very slow over ISDN (64k) connection.. I've looked a bit for a solution which will: 1. Run an X enviroment on NT 2. Can be used with multiple connection (in other words - built for multi users) 3. Can connect over modem/ISDN line. So far I have found Starnet Xwin Hummingbird exceed .. Anyone here with experiment with one of those programs? are they easy to configure? other alternatives? Thanks -- Hetz Ben Hamo - Sys. Admin. - Intercomp [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Redmond, you have a problem.. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Remote X windows
On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: I'm looking to put a Linux box at my work for the employees to learn Linux and use it from their Windows NT machines at work, and for me - from home.. I have tried VNC - but it seems that: 1. This program is not built to run for multiple users (you need to run for each one "vncserver") indeed, it's for taking control over a single screen, much like PCanywhere, not for remote access to apps. 2. It's SLOW - very slow over ISDN (64k) connection.. as any X application will be too. especially heavily graphic ones (Emacs, Netscape...) I've looked a bit for a solution which will: 1. Run an X enviroment on NT Exceed or Xwin-32 2. Can be used with multiple connection (in other words - built for multi users) ofcourse. config your xdm to allow your clients' fixed IPs. 3. Can connect over modem/ISDN line. any such solution will be very slow. you have been warned. So far I have found Starnet Xwin Hummingbird exceed .. yap... Anyone here with experiment with one of those programs? are they easy to configure? other alternatives? XFree on a Linux box? :-) -- Ira Abramov ; whois:IA58 ; www.scso.com ; all around Linux enthusiast 'Mounten' wird fuer drei Dinge benutzt: 'Aufsitzen' auf Pferde, 'einklinken' von Festplatten in Dateisysteme, und, nun, 'besteigen' beim Sex. (Christa Keil in a German posting: "Mounting is used for three things: climbing on a horse, linking in a hard disk unit in data systems, and, well, mounting during sex".) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Remote X windows
Hi, Ira Abramov! On Sun, Jan 09, 2000 at 08:25:29PM +0200, you wrote the following: I've looked a bit for a solution which will: 1. Run an X enviroment on NT Exceed or Xwin-32 I've had fabulous experience with X-Win32, so if you can afford the price ($200 for a station), it's a great solution. 3. Can connect over modem/ISDN line. any such solution will be very slow. you have been warned. There's software that helps a little bit here, called dxpc -- "differential X protocol compressor". It acts as an X protocol proxy and compresses all the traffic. Pretty nifty. Anyone here with experiment with one of those programs? are they easy to configure? other alternatives? XFree on a Linux box? :-) Actually, for dedicated use (i.e. if you don't need to run Windows applications at the same time), this is a great solution, and I implemented it once in one school. There's even a special distribution for this purpose, called Xenu or Xdenu or something like that, search for it. It runs on UMSDOS, so you'll have a 15 MB or so C:\Linux directory (not a big deal), and then you can create an icon on the desktop for the loadlin batch file, and have xdenu automatically launch "X -remote server.com" -- very friendly and works very well. -- Alex Shnitman| http://www.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] +--- http://alexsh.hectic.netUIN 188956PGP key on web page E1 F2 7B 6C A0 31 80 28 63 B8 02 BA 65 C7 8B BA "Xenix is the pinnacle of modern UNIX design, and will be used for many years to come." -- Xenix OS API manual PGP signature
Re: Remote X windows
Hi, Alex Shnitman! On Sun, Jan 09, 2000 at 08:38:33PM +0200, you wrote the following: launch "X -remote server.com" -- very friendly and works very well. Whoops. Of course it's -query, not -remote. -- Alex Shnitman| http://www.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] +--- http://alexsh.hectic.netUIN 188956PGP key on web page E1 F2 7B 6C A0 31 80 28 63 B8 02 BA 65 C7 8B BA "If you continue running Windows, your system may become unstable." -- Windows 95 Blue Screen of Death PGP signature
Re: Remote X windows
I donno maybe using windows 2000 with terminat server or citrix would be the answer for that? Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: | Hi, | | I'm looking to put a Linux box at my work for the employees to learn | Linux and use it from their Windows NT machines at work, and for me - | from home.. | | I have tried VNC - but it seems that: | | 1. This program is not built to run for multiple users (you need to run | for each one "vncserver") | 2. It's SLOW - very slow over ISDN (64k) connection.. | | I've looked a bit for a solution which will: | | 1. Run an X enviroment on NT | 2. Can be used with multiple connection (in other words - built for | multi users) | 3. Can connect over modem/ISDN line. | | So far I have found Starnet Xwin Hummingbird exceed .. | | Anyone here with experiment with one of those programs? are they easy to | configure? other alternatives? | | Thanks | -- | Hetz Ben Hamo - Sys. Admin. - Intercomp | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | --- | Redmond, you have a problem.. | | = | To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with | the word"unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command | echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: memory problem
Some BIOSes used to have an option for 15-16 memory hole. Since your kernel initially report on no more then 15M ram I would check if you have such an option and if it is not enabled. Hi all i have an old 133MHZ pentium with 32Mb of ram. my linux (red-hat 6.0 kernel 2.2.5-15) detects only 13-14MB. i solved this problem with linux mem=32M at lilo prompt. it's seems to work fine but when i try to run the command startx it gives me an error message: segmentation fault and halt's. is thereany other way to solve this. please help.
Re: memory problem
- Original Message - From: Matan Ziv-Av [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: úåîø àééæðîï [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2000 11:15 AM Subject: Re: memory problem i have an old 133MHZ pentium with 32Mb of ram. my linux (red-hat 6.0 kernel 2.2.5-15) detects only 13-14MB. i solved this problem with linux mem=32M at lilo prompt. it's seems to work fine but when i try to run the command startx it gives me an error message: segmentation fault and halt's. is there any other way to solve this. It sounds as if you have memory hole enabled (usually done for isa vga cards). If you don't need the hole, disable it in the bios. If you do have an isa vga card you have a few options: 1. disable the memory hole, so the card can't be used in linear mode, so XF86 will only run at 8bpp. svgalib (and maybe commercial X servers) can still use high color modes. 2. Enable the memory hole and use only 14MB of ram. 3. Enable the hole, and either upgrade to 2.3, or look for a e820 patch for 2.2 kernel. -- Matan Ziv-Av. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yep, that was the problem. i disabled it and it works fine now. thank you all. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
10K Communications Problem
This (I am told) refers to the maximum number of sockets which may be held simultaneously open. Can anyone "point me" to some information on this , both for Linux and various Unices (esp. AIX). begin:vcard n:Feiglin;Daniel tel;cell:972 53 869986 tel;fax:972 9 862 1052 tel;home:972 9 832 0939 tel;work:972 9 861 6204 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Dilog Computers Ltd. adr:;;POB 36;Shavei Shomron, Mobile Post;;44858;ISRAEL version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] x-mozilla-cpt:;-20112 fn:Daniel Feiglin end:vcard