Re: Sending SMS messages by E-mail + Sending E-mail from an SMS cellphone

2000-12-28 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000, Ilya Konstantinov wrote about "Re: Sending SMS messages by E-mail + Sending E-mail from an SMS cellphone": Again, 20 messages a day. Exploit OrangeWalla, much more fun (until they catch you). Or figure out how to use 'telnet 192.118.10.40 443'. Maybe I'll try adding this

Re: spoofing DNS..

2000-12-28 Thread Ariel Biener
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo wrote: Indeed, but this one wasn't for the 2nd reason. --Ariel AB I can't even believe we're really discussing this lame subject AB here. These lamo hacker wannabe kids questions don't belong on AB this list. You can discuss attack

Re: Sending SMS messages by E-mail + Sending E-mail from an SMS cellphone

2000-12-28 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 10:08:38AM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote: By the way, what's the deal with that http://www.mtnsms.com/? Am I the only one that got the impression that it's run by a group of 10-year-olds? Just look at their writing style ("we r improving adding new functionalities 2 our

Re: Sending SMS messages by E-mail + Sending E-mail from an SMScellphone

2000-12-28 Thread Ely Levy
Hey, I more than agreeing with Nadav, Face the fact that in life you sometimes have to pay for stuff. GNU idiology was that you don't need to pay for programs or source. But the arguement of the people who opppose it , is exaclly people who abuse the service giving by the source. You use thier

Re: Sending SMS messages by E-mail + Sending E-mail from an SMS cellphone

2000-12-28 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000, Ely Levy wrote about "Re: Sending SMS messages by E-mail + Sending E-mail from an SMS cellphone": Hey, I more than agreeing with Nadav, Face the fact that in life you sometimes have to pay for stuff. ... Though I agree, I have to add one point: I have no problem

Re: Sending SMS messages by E-mail + Sending E-mail from an SMScellphone

2000-12-28 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Ely Levy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GNU idiology was that you don't need to pay for programs or source. No, that's not the FSF ideaology (GNU is a technological project of the FSF, and has no ideaology). You use thier servers to send the SMS , you sent it on thier network,

Re: Nonstop ADSL

2000-12-28 Thread Danny Grabois[FrogFoot]
hey, first of all in pap-secrets and chap-secrets change 'guest@ONonstop to 'username@INonstop'. in the password where you have "Bezeq" now you need to put your own password ("password"). so the file should look like : # clientserver secret IP addresses

RE: spoofing DNS..

2000-12-28 Thread Eddie Harari
lets put some things on the clear here please : spoofing - 2 kind of spoofing , 1. blind spoofing - you do not see the packets that come back to your spoofed address. 2. non blind spoofing - you do see the contents of the packets that come back to your server.( man in the middle attack ).

Re: Sending SMS messages by E-mail + Sending E-mail from an SMScellphone

2000-12-28 Thread Ely Levy
Strike, don't send SMS move cellphone companies e-mail them in protests originize demestration do hunger strikes . but if you use thier service it's thier right to decide how it would be giving. at worse you can originize a patition to cancel thier licence. and give it when/if we have a new

Re: Sending SMS messages by E-mail + Sending E-mail from an SMS cellphone

2000-12-28 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Ilya Konstantinov wrote: Again, 20 messages a day. Exploit OrangeWalla, much more fun (until they catch you). Or figure out how to use 'telnet 192.118.10.40 443'. [gby@specialk gby]$ telnet 192.118.10.40 443 Trying 192.118.10.40... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: No route to

Re: Sending SMS messages by E-mail + Sending E-mail from an SMS cellphone

2000-12-28 Thread Adi Stav
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 05:28:38PM +0200, Ely Levy wrote: at worse you can originize a patition to cancel thier licence. and give it when/if we have a new goverment;) You mean, BEFORE we have a new government :) Listening to citizens right after elections is not very productive... - Adi

Re: Sending SMS messages by E-mail + Sending E-mail from an SMS cellphone

2000-12-28 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Ely Levy wrote: Face the fact that in life you sometimes have to pay for stuff. GNU idiology was that you don't need to pay for programs or source. But the arguement of the people who opppose it , is exaclly people who abuse the service giving by the source. That was never the GNU (or

Re: ipchains

2000-12-28 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo
AS The same copyright system that disallows you to copy ripped MP3s AS disallows companies to make proprietary products out of GPLed AS software. Our copyright system is just fine. With our GPLed software the matter is pretty complicated. Generally, GPLed software is referred to as a "free

Re: ipchains

2000-12-28 Thread Adi Stav
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 11:07:47PM +0200, Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo wrote: With our GPLed software the matter is pretty complicated. Generally, GPLed software is referred to as a "free software". But, in fact, it's not free at all, in the common meaning of the word "freedom". You cannot

imwheel

2000-12-28 Thread David Hananel
Hey there! Since I installed "imwheel", when I do to a program "Open With" (I'm using GNOME), I don't see any programs there. I have "Browser" But I don't like it, I prefer to have that tree thing... Do you Know maby why is this happaning? Do you Know maby how can I fix it? It's really annoying

Re: ipchains

2000-12-28 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, "Stanislav Malyshev" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RIAA is within it's right when it uses current law. I agree that it might be immoral When some company does something that is within the law but immoral, I tend to lose respect for that company's requests. Whatever happened to

Re: ipchains

2000-12-28 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo
AS That's a common misconception. It should have been obvious, but AS somehow never is, that no amount of licensing trickery can make one AS program be considered a derivative work of an unrelated program. And See, this is an official position of RMS. I have quotes from him personally saying

Re: ipchains

2000-12-28 Thread Nathan Orenstein
At 11:07 PM 12/28/00 +0200, you wrote: AS The same copyright system that disallows you to copy ripped MP3s AS disallows companies to make proprietary products out of GPLed AS software. Our copyright system is just fine. With our GPLed software the matter is pretty complicated. Generally, GPLed