Re: makefile question
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, guy keren wrote: Makefiles should not be medled with. if you try to do something complicated - most likely you'll fail, cause the language that gmake (and the commercial 'make' variants) supports - are very very limited. A chalange, then, ha? not realy - gnu make's language realy _is_ very limited. every once in a while i try to enhance the Makefile of the project i work on (been using gnu make for such things since around 97 - so i thought i should be able to do what i want with it) - and eventually fall back to using cut and paste, external aliases and scripts and the like - because of the limits of its language, and the lack of a proper debugger (or proper error messages). (reading the gnu-make manual) so did i yet again before i wrote my previous post ;) Well, the best I could find was: target-spesific values There is one more special feature of target-specific variables: when you define a target-specific variable, that variable value is also in effect for all prerequisites of this target (unless those prerequisites override it with their own target-specific variable value). So, for example, a statement like this: prog : CFLAGS = -g prog : prog.o foo.o bar.o will set `CFLAGS' to `-g' in the command script for `prog', but it will also set `CFLAGS' to `-g' in the command scripts that create `prog.o', `foo.o', and `bar.o', and any command scripts which create their prerequisites. So how about: ppc: ARC=PPC ppc: release release: ifeq ($(ARCH),PPC) (is that the right syntax?) tzafrir, if you want a challenge - then _try_ what you write. it does not work and will not work, because of a simple reason - the given variable is being defined ONLY inside the commands of the rule. this 'ifeq' is NOT part of the commands for the rule - since it is a gnu make command. the 'commands of the rule', as i perceive the term now, are only the _shell_ commands of the rule. The problem is that 'release' has to be a pre-requirement of ppc. the problem is - this does not work as you think it does ;) But then-again, recursive makes are not much nicer. but at least they can be understood, and they do work. -- guy For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator. -- nob o. dy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
where did my mouse go?
Suddenly and without prior warning[*], my thinkpad's internel mouse became unavailable to Linux. I'm running RH8, and kudzu fails to detect the mouse. Sadly, I see nothing interesting in the logs. Any idea why did this happen? I keep a standanlone mouse detection program on my laptop (it's called WinXP) and it works fine, so this is not a hardware problem. Any idea how can I get to the bottom of this? Thanks, Dan. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where did my mouse go?
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 02:18:58PM +0200, Dan Kenigsberg wrote: Suddenly and without prior warning[*], my thinkpad's internel mouse became unavailable to Linux. I'm running RH8, and kudzu fails to detect the mouse. Sadly, I see nothing interesting in the logs. Any idea why did this happen? I keep a standanlone mouse detection program on my laptop (it's called WinXP) and it works fine, so this is not a hardware problem. Any idea how can I get to the bottom of this? You can try something like od -tx1 /dev/psaux and 1. See if it can open the device (if not, you either have no kernel driver or the driver did not identify the hardware) 2. Move your mouse and see if you get output If it works, it's a problem in the configuration of X, not Linux. Didi Thanks, Dan. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where did my mouse go?
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 02:41:05PM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote: The /dev/mouse symlink is fine, but `ls /dev/psaux' gives me ls: /dev/psaux: Input/output error yet 10 misc appears in my /proc/devices. How could it be that I suddenly don't have mouse support in my kernel? I booted with RH's 2.4.18-17 just to make sure, and the problem persists. I don't know if this is relevant, but mousedev appears in my lsmod. Any other ideas? directions? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where did my mouse go?
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002, Dan Kenigsberg wrote about Re: where did my mouse go?: On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 02:41:05PM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote: The /dev/mouse symlink is fine, but `ls /dev/psaux' gives me ls: /dev/psaux: Input/output error Could it be that your /dev directory is ruined? ls should never have given you Input/output error, even on a bad device file, because it doesn't try to read the file or open it... Try mknod /tmp/mouse c 10 1 cat /tmp/mouse and see if this mouse device works. If it does, fsck your disk to try to find any disk errors, and then remove /dev/mouse and recreate with the above mknod command (you can make /dev/psaux root-owned with permissions rw---). -- Nadav Har'El| Thursday, Dec 5 2002, 30 Kislev 5763 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |Computers are like air conditioners. Both http://nadav.harel.org.il |stop working if you open windows. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
imap server
Hi All Currently I work with curior imap server which work quiet nice. in the last few days after I installed the new version on new Mandrake 9 I started absorb strange behaviors. like some of the connection to the shared malidirs disappeared. Any way I though of moving to other imap server that support creating sub directories in shared directories and have good permission/authentication system. any recommendation ? I prefer using maildir if possible. Cheers = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
samsung pppoe
Hi y'all, I need help with a pppoe modem i just got from bezeq (forced to get). i have kernel 2.4.4 and i prefer not to recompile. I probably don't have a dialer also, since its a redhat 5.1 originally which i added and updated parts i needed over the years. basically, i want to connect. please explain how :). nb: its an external ethernet samsung modem which needs pppoe. there is no known(or i don't know) way to connect to it via tcp or even ping the little ***. its working cz, i can connect to it with windows that was added a pppoe protocol by the wow installation disk. 10x. * - * - * Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Cool Site: HTTP://WWW.My2Nis.Com * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux in Government list
There is an article in the Linux journal about how to deal with 3 major obstacles in introducing OS in government: Technical issues User Politics Management Politics http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6486 and there is a related mailing list to discuss theses issues at http://www.ssc.com/mailman/listinfo/gov-list Gabor YAPC::Israel - http://www.perl.org.il/YAPC/2003/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
regarding samsung modem
Hi, Well, I don't know how they gave it to you (we, Rotal, are the ones who import it to Israel and we don't have it on stock for a month now), but the samsung modem is a verbatim copy of the ITex modem. I think you can find something in google about it (we don't have it at work these days so I cannot check anything about it).. As for quality - well, you might be surprised, but the Samsung one as not a crap as the other USB PCI modems are (the best is Alcatel, and I would seriously suggest to anyone to invest the few hundreds shekels to buy it - it worth every Shekel.. I'm trying to get the Dynamode PCI ADSL modem to work with Linux. I'll post info as soon as something will come out of my search.. Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
samsung pppoe
Hi y'all, I need help with a pppoe modem i just got from bezeq (forced to get). i have kernel 2.4.4 and i prefer not to recompile. I probably don't have a dialer also, since its a redhat 5.1 originally which i added and updated parts i needed over the years. basically, i want to connect. please explain how :). nb: its an external ethernet samsung modem which needs pppoe. there is no known(or i don't know) way to connect to it via tcp or even ping the little ***. its working cz, i can connect to it with windows that was added a pppoe protocol by the wow installation disk. 10x. * - * - * Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Cool Site: HTTP://WWW.My2Nis.Com * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: regarding samsung modem
hetz its a different samsung modem (ethernet external - read OS independent :P). and you can ping it ... its ip is 10.0.0.2 AFAIK its even got some sort of a telnet shell. On Thursday 05 December 2002 23:05, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi, Well, I don't know how they gave it to you (we, Rotal, are the ones who import it to Israel and we don't have it on stock for a month now), but the samsung modem is a verbatim copy of the ITex modem. I think you can find something in google about it (we don't have it at work these days so I cannot check anything about it).. As for quality - well, you might be surprised, but the Samsung one as not a crap as the other USB PCI modems are (the best is Alcatel, and I would seriously suggest to anyone to invest the few hundreds shekels to buy it - it worth every Shekel.. I'm trying to get the Dynamode PCI ADSL modem to work with Linux. I'll post info as soon as something will come out of my search.. Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Barak Kaufman To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SOLUTION: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen
I wrote: I did not try reinstalling RH7.3, but got it right anyway, although only with mplayer. Well, this is incorrect. This is what happens when you leave a message a little too long in the drafts folder. I did install a RedHat 7.3 partition, which was important in discovering what software cases the problem. However, as I indicated further in the post, I found out all I needed to do was copy one file, and voila, all dvd playing software plays correctly, now. Cheers, Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: regarding samsung modem
No, i have it and you don't have a tcp interface into the modem, i nmaped it. you can't even ping it. it has a dhcp thingie which takes care of everything you need. and for once its goes smoothly and goes down smoothly. very nice. maybe there is but i can't find it. anyway its a pppoe only modem. its external and is connected via eth. to be real, its just the pci modem stuck in an external slot and a transformer up its ass. but it works nice, so who complains. code named aht300 modem. it works great out of the box with linux, i myself had to download the dialer since i have a redhat 5.1 installation, +kernel 2.4.4 but it works great. for anyone interested in the dialer program: http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/ enjoy. * - * - * Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Cool Site: HTTP://WWW.My2Nis.Com * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Barak Kaufman Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 11:33 PM To: Hetz Ben Hamo; Linux IL Subject: Re: regarding samsung modem hetz its a different samsung modem (ethernet external - read OS independent :P) and you can ping it ... its ip is 10.0.0.2 AFAIK its even got some sort of a telnet shell On Thursday 05 December 2002 23:05, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi, Well, I don't know how they gave it to you (we, Rotal, are the ones who import it to Israel and we don't have it on stock for a month now), but the samsung modem is a verbatim copy of the ITex modem. I think you can find something in google about it (we don't have it at work these days so I cannot check anything about it). As for quality - well, you might be surprised, but the Samsung one as not a crap as the other USB PCI modems are (the best is Alcatel, and I would seriously suggest to anyone to invest the few hundreds shekels to buy it - it worth every Shekel. I'm trying to get the Dynamode PCI ADSL modem to work with Linux. I'll post info as soon as something will come out of my search. Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Barak Kaufman == To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: regarding samsung modem
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 11:05:12PM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: I'm trying to get the Dynamode PCI ADSL modem to work with Linux. I'll post info as soon as something will come out of my search.. In case there are hardware and software PCI ADSL modems, I do hope you meant the hardware kind. In addition, it might help if you post more details on what you will be seeing even if you think it worthless. By that I mean the differences between the Dynamode modem and other models, how can I tell whether a particular PCI modem will work with Bezeq network and probably anything else. Even the difficulties which prevented you from completing the task seems to me valuable information. Isn't Dynamode an Israeli company? Have you tried contacting it? I do hope that a hardware PCI ADSL modem that is supported under Linux will be included in the free hardware that some ISPs are offering to people who switch to ADSL. -- Shaul Karl, [EMAIL PROTECTED] e t = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: regarding samsung modem
Amazing as it may sound, it looks as if Samsung has made a variant of this ADSL modem especially for Bezeq. The AHT-E300 is actually a full featured modem/router, with all the cool things usually available on today's home routers. The special version made for Bezeq(!) apparently has all of these features chopped off, and the nice web-based management interface removed (assuming Tzahi's nmap'ping the box and finding nothing). The Israeli model is called a modem/bridge, while the standard version is called router. I would assume it's all still in there, just locked out somehow. Doron Tzahi Fadida wrote: No, i have it and you don't have a tcp interface into the modem, i nmaped it. you can't even ping it. it has a dhcp thingie which takes care of everything you need. and for once its goes smoothly and goes down smoothly. very nice. maybe there is but i can't find it. anyway its a pppoe only modem. its external and is connected via eth. to be real, its just the pci modem stuck in an external slot and a transformer up its ass. but it works nice, so who complains. code named aht300 modem. it works great out of the box with linux, i myself had to download the dialer since i have a redhat 5.1 installation, +kernel 2.4.4 but it works great. for anyone interested in the dialer program: http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/ enjoy. * - * - * Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Cool Site: HTTP://WWW.My2Nis.Com * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Barak Kaufman Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 11:33 PM To: Hetz Ben Hamo; Linux IL Subject: Re: regarding samsung modem hetz its a different samsung modem (ethernet external - read OS independent :P) and you can ping it ... its ip is 10.0.0.2 AFAIK its even got some sort of a telnet shell On Thursday 05 December 2002 23:05, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi, Well, I don't know how they gave it to you (we, Rotal, are the ones who import it to Israel and we don't have it on stock for a month now), but the samsung modem is a verbatim copy of the ITex modem. I think you can find something in google about it (we don't have it at work these days so I cannot check anything about it). As for quality - well, you might be surprised, but the Samsung one as not a crap as the other USB PCI modems are (the best is Alcatel, and I would seriously suggest to anyone to invest the few hundreds shekels to buy it - it worth every Shekel. I'm trying to get the Dynamode PCI ADSL modem to work with Linux. I'll post info as soon as something will come out of my search. Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Barak Kaufman == To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
