Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-20 Thread Herouth Maoz
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: They are not out of business, they went bankrupt and bought by Netvision years ago. Go to mustop.co.il. I DON'T recommend it! Not if you are using Linux, that is. Their entire new site is written in... VBScript. On the *client* side, that is. There is absolutely

Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-20 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
HMhttp://www.ezbuyus.co.il/ HM Which doesn't work with Mozilla either - at least their price calculator throws errors instead of working. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken Stanislav Malyshev /\ Stronger than Morgul-spells phone +972-50-624945/\

Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-20 Thread Herouth Maoz
Quoting Stanislav Malyshev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: HMhttp://www.ezbuyus.co.il/ HM Which doesn't work with Mozilla either - at least their price calculator throws errors instead of working. Fair enough, I didn't try that. I used the registration, password change, and package tracking. Those

Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-20 Thread Ben-Nes Michael
There are allot of chip routers with ADSL dialers that cost around the 100$. I worked with few of them and its easy and fun, and in the Linux all you have to do is configure a simple Ethernet using a DHCP. The routers come with 4 ports so you can share the connection. --

Re: Help making Radeon 9000 work with XFree 4.3.0

2003-10-20 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Sunday 19 October 2003 22:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm trying to make Xfree86 4.3.0 on Debian unstable (taken from http://people.debian.org/~mmagallo/packages/xfree86/i386) work with a Radeon 9000 (not PRO) with AMD Athlon 2500 with no success. The closest instructions I found

Re: Help making Radeon 9000 work with XFree 4.3.0

2003-10-20 Thread linux-il
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: I don't like to give consultation on non free software, but I'll try to help Thanks. What are other options if I want to get the most out of my hardware? I did a lot of googling over the last month since I bought this hardware and am still confused. If I get it right

Problem with ide-scsi under 2.6.0-test8

2003-10-20 Thread Alon Weinstein
(sorry for the lengthy post, but I thought adding as much relevant output could help solving this problem) I've compiled kernel 2.6.0-test8. Everything works great except my CD-RW. I have a KT-600 based motherboard, with a S-ATA drive (hda, using ide=reverse kernel parameter), an IDE drive

Resoulotion mandating the use of Open Standarts in government communications proposed by ISOC, Hamakor and Microsoft

2003-10-20 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
A proposal for resoulotion mandating the use of Open Standarts in government communications signed by ISOC-IL, Hamakor and Microsoft Israel is about to become an Israeli Internet sub-committee resolution: [ Note: story in Hebrew ]

Setting XkbOptions for Xvnc

2003-10-20 Thread Eli Marmor
Hi, Many of you probably know the option XkbOptions of XF86, configured under the section InputDevice in the XF86Config file. The reason, of course, is its ability to be used for keyboard switching, for example for Hebrew typing. Does anybody have any idea how to use it under Xvnc? What file

Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-20 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Shaul Karl wrote: On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 05:31:08PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aviram Jenik wrote: AFAIK if your MERKAZYIA supports pppoe (most of them do now), you should be ok As far as I learned about this - PPPoE vs. PPTP has nothing to do with the telco's exchange.

Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-20 Thread Gil Freund
Shaul Karl wrote: On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 08:02:17PM +0200, Gil Freund wrote: I changed two ADSL connections (diffarent ISP, different cities) to PPPoE, using the older Elcatel Soho modems. The actual connection is from Netscreen firewalls. `The actual connection is from Netscreen

Re: Resoulotion mandating the use of Open Standarts in government communications proposed by ISOC, Hamakor and Microsoft

2003-10-20 Thread Boris Ratner
Totaly surprising Great Work!! My gratitude to all involved! Kind Regards, Boris Ratner. Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20/10/2003 12:27 To:Linux-IL mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Resoulotion mandating

Re: Setting XkbOptions for Xvnc

2003-10-20 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 01:10:19PM +0200, Eli Marmor wrote: Hi, Many of you probably know the option XkbOptions of XF86, configured under the section InputDevice in the XF86Config file. The reason, of course, is its ability to be used for keyboard switching, for example for Hebrew typing.

Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-20 Thread Dov Grobgeld
Thanks for this and all the other recommendations. In the end I decided to upgrade to 750kBaud ADSL and take the Bezeq provided ECI 270PR router. I let them now my discontent about having to buy a faster connection (and paying more) than I need only because I am using Linux, but screaming into

Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-20 Thread Ben-Nes Michael
- Original Message - From: Dov Grobgeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 1:37 PM Subject: Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation? Thanks for this and all the other recommendations. In the end I decided to upgrade to

Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-20 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 01:37:40PM +0200, Dov Grobgeld wrote: Btw, once I have the fast connection I'm thinking of creating a partition with bleeding edge Linux setup. Does someone have a good suggestion about a good distribution /environment for continously updating all packages? debian

Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-20 Thread linux-il
Dov Grobgeld wrote: Thanks for this and all the other recommendations. In the end I decided to upgrade to 750kBaud ADSL and take the Bezeq provided ECI 270PR router. I let them now my discontent about having to buy a faster connection (and paying more) than I need only because I am using Linux,

Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-20 Thread Oleg Kobets
Yeah, I did it once (turning Alcatel to PPPoE). It worked great until I discovered that it has some issues with redialing. I mean, after (for some reason) the connection drops, it has some bug with reconnecting. At least that's my experience. Oleg. - Original Message - From: Shachar

distro with 2.6 kernel ?

2003-10-20 Thread Oded Arbel
Speaking of cutting edge distros - I'm looking for a distro that comes out of the box with a 2.6-testX kernel - anyone know of such a thing ? Thx -- Oded ::.. The size of an avalanche is unrelated to the grain of sand that triggers it. The same tiny grain of sand may unleash a tiny

RE: Resoulotion mandating the use of Open Standarts in government communications proposed by ISOC, Hamakor and Microsoft

2003-10-20 Thread Rony Shapiro
Total agreement - Arguably, the most important thing the Amuta has done this year (so far...). Bravo! Rony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Boris Ratner Sent: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:09 To: Gilad Ben-Yossef Cc: Linux-IL mailing

Re: Resoulotion mandating the use of Open Standarts in government communications proposed by ISOC, Hamakor and Microsoft

2003-10-20 Thread linux-il
I concur. Is there any road map in that area and if so - what's the next goal? --Amos Rony Shapiro wrote: Total agreement - Arguably, the most important thing the Amuta has done this year (so far...). Bravo! Rony = To

Re: distro with 2.6 kernel ?

2003-10-20 Thread Aviram Jenik
On Monday 20 October 2003 15:06, Oded Arbel wrote: Speaking of cutting edge distros - I'm looking for a distro that comes out of the box with a 2.6-testX kernel - anyone know of such a thing ? What's wrong with: make menuconfig make make install make modules_install Easier than installing

Re: distro with 2.6 kernel ?

2003-10-20 Thread Ben-Nes Michael
Gentoo has 2.6 in its portage tree under : development-sources/ mm-sources/ does any one knows whats the diffrent between them ? -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-4-6991122 Fax: 972-4-6990098 http://www.canaan.net.il

Re: distro with 2.6 kernel ?

2003-10-20 Thread Dan Armak
On Monday 20 October 2003 15:06, Oded Arbel wrote: Speaking of cutting edge distros - I'm looking for a distro that comes out of the box with a 2.6-testX kernel - anyone know of such a thing ? Gentoo has ebuilds for vanilla 2.6.0-testx and -mm series kernels, as well as module-init-tools and

Re: distro with 2.6 kernel ?

2003-10-20 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 04:17:20PM +0200, Aviram Jenik wrote: On Monday 20 October 2003 15:06, Oded Arbel wrote: Speaking of cutting edge distros - I'm looking for a distro that comes out of the box with a 2.6-testX kernel - anyone know of such a thing ? What's wrong with: make

Re: Resoulotion mandating the use of Open Standarts in government communications proposed by ISOC, Hamakor and Microsoft

2003-10-20 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Monday 20 October 2003 16:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I concur. Is there any road map in that area and if so - what's the next goal? There is a road map, but first we must wait patiently (it took us more then a year - most of it just waiting, to get thus far) until this is indeed

Re: distro with 2.6 kernel ?

2003-10-20 Thread Oded Arbel
On Monday 20 October 2003 16:17, Aviram Jenik wrote: On Monday 20 October 2003 15:06, Oded Arbel wrote: Speaking of cutting edge distros - I'm looking for a distro that comes out of the box with a 2.6-testX kernel - anyone know of such a thing ? What's wrong with: make menuconfig

Re: distro with 2.6 kernel ?

2003-10-20 Thread Dan Armak
On Monday 20 October 2003 16:22, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: Gentoo has 2.6 in its portage tree under : development-sources/ mm-sources/ does any one knows whats the diffrent between them ? -mm tracks Andrew Morton's 2.6-based tree. You can see the patches and changelogs on a kernel.org mirror

mount --bind, idebus questions

2003-10-20 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Hi all, I have recently bought a new hardisk. aside from the vast new spaces now available to me, I have a couple of questions. 1. I partitioned the disk to segments (copied my old system over instead of reinstalling - worked great). /usr resides on a different partition. I have a couple of

Re: distro with 2.6 kernel ?

2003-10-20 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 05:36:16PM +0200, Dan Armak wrote: On Monday 20 October 2003 16:22, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: Gentoo has 2.6 in its portage tree under : development-sources/ mm-sources/ does any one knows whats the diffrent between them ? -mm tracks Andrew Morton's 2.6-based

Re: Setting XkbOptions for Xvnc

2003-10-20 Thread Eli Marmor
Thanks, Tzafrir. Xvnc doesn't support XKB (XKB extension not present on :1.0), so xmodmap did the work. Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 01:10:19PM +0200, Eli Marmor wrote: Hi, Many of you probably know the option XkbOptions of XF86, configured under the section

kernel q

2003-10-20 Thread Erez Doron
hi i am using copy_from_user and copy_to_user functions. how do i make that physical memory non cached ? ( it seems to write when it wants and read adresses i didnt ask it to read) cheers, erez. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL

Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-20 Thread Shaul Karl
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 10:24:36AM +0200, Alexander Cheskis wrote: Hi, 1. I took Samsung ADSL modem from BEZEQ 1 year ago (everyone can do it, taking 750kbps), and replaced its VxWorks firmware, making it works like NAT/DHCP router. Cause Samsung supports PPPoE, you don't need to configure

Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-20 Thread Shaul Karl
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 01:21:11PM +0200, Gil Freund wrote: Shaul Karl wrote: On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 08:02:17PM +0200, Gil Freund wrote: I changed two ADSL connections (diffarent ISP, different cities) to PPPoE, using the older Elcatel Soho modems. The actual connection is from Netscreen

High load average on IBM xSeries 335

2003-10-20 Thread WildLove - Elad Almadoi
Hey! I'm runing IBM xSeries 335 (aka IBM x335) with: IBM x335 rackmount (xSeries) CPU: Dual Intel Xeon 2.6GHz (533MHz) Hardrives: IBM 36.4GB 10K-rpm Ultra160 SCSI Hot-Swap x 2 (1 is connected as a mirror (raid-1) for constant backup Operating System: RedHat 7.3 + Ensim Pro 3.5.19 RAM: 1.5 GB DDR

ADSL working with ECI B-Focus Router 270PR

2003-10-20 Thread Dov Grobgeld
I took the router from Bezeq in the afternoon and it is now working just fine! All I really had to do to get it working under RedHat 9 was: rpm -ivh rp-pppoe adsl-setup adsl-start /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ppp1 Thanks again for all the help! Now doing cvs get gimp is

Re: kernel q

2003-10-20 Thread guy keren
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Erez Doron wrote: i am using copy_from_user and copy_to_user functions. how do i make that physical memory non cached ? ( it seems to write when it wants and read adresses i didnt ask it to read) can you explain what do you mean by 'reads when it wants to'? after you

Re: kernel q

2003-10-20 Thread Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader
Quoth Erez Doron: i am using copy_from_user and copy_to_user functions. how do i make that physical memory non cached ? The simplest way is to snarf a block of contiguous memory OUTside the kernel, export it and write to/read from it somehow (e.g. by mmap, etc). Cheerio -- ---OFCNL This

Re: kernel q

2003-10-20 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 09:46:48PM +0200, Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader wrote: Quoth Erez Doron: i am using copy_from_user and copy_to_user functions. how do i make that physical memory non cached ? The simplest way is to snarf a block of contiguous memory OUTside the kernel, export

Re: High load average on IBM xSeries 335

2003-10-20 Thread Lior Kaplan
Hi, AFAIK: The load average is the number of tasks in your CPU's input queue. Since you have more than 1 CPU, the system tries to break each job it has to as many task it can, so each will be processed in a different CPU. Meaning: you should have a hieghier load average. I think the results are

Re: High load average on IBM xSeries 335

2003-10-20 Thread WildLove - Elad Almadoi
Hey, Thanks for your time But it make no sence that my server takes sometime about 4 seconds to respone to 'ls' command just because I've got 2 CPU's (By the way, its only 2 with HT) - Original Message - From: Lior Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: kernel q

2003-10-20 Thread Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader
Quoth Muli Ben-Yehuda: Simplest, but it's also considered a fairly ugly hack :P Ugly, yes. However, when you want performance and wish to avoid caching (the latter Erez states and the first I interpolate, possibly wrongly) and, self-admittedly, being much less conversant with optimization than

Re: High load average on IBM xSeries 335

2003-10-20 Thread Erez Kirson
Hi What kernel are you using ? is it the latest from RedHat ? Have you tried disabling HT in the Bios? I know some kernels are having problems with it . Later then Erez - Original Message - From: WildLove - Elad Almadoi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: High load average on IBM xSeries 335

2003-10-20 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 08:58:19PM +0200, WildLove - Elad Almadoi wrote: Hey! I'm runing IBM xSeries 335 (aka IBM x335) with: IBM x335 rackmount (xSeries) CPU: Dual Intel Xeon 2.6GHz (533MHz) Hardrives: IBM 36.4GB 10K-rpm Ultra160 SCSI Hot-Swap x 2 (1 is connected as a mirror (raid-1) for

Re: kernel q

2003-10-20 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 10:44:09PM +0200, Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader wrote: Quoth Muli Ben-Yehuda: Simplest, but it's also considered a fairly ugly hack :P Ugly, yes. However, when you want performance and wish to avoid caching (the latter Erez states and the first I interpolate,

Re: mount --bind, idebus questions

2003-10-20 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Hi all, Hi, I have recently bought a new hardisk. aside from the vast new spaces now available to me, I have a couple of questions. 1. I partitioned the disk to segments (copied my old system over instead of reinstalling - worked great). /usr

Re: High load average on IBM xSeries 335

2003-10-20 Thread Lior Kaplan
1. The load average is 1,5,15 minutes. 2. You're right. the memory is almost all used. I think a restart for the services (Apache+MySQL), might do some good at freeing some memory. 3. Swapping can also explain about busy I/O are slow response to disk commands (like ls and friends). I think this

Re: High load average on IBM xSeries 335

2003-10-20 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 12:14:51AM +0200, Lior Kaplan wrote: 1. The load average is 1,5,15 minutes. 2. You're right. the memory is almost all used. I think a restart for the services (Apache+MySQL), might do some good at freeing some memory. Unless this is some runaway process which won't be

Re: High load average on IBM xSeries 335

2003-10-20 Thread WildLove - Elad Almadoi
It's something with the apache, In the moment I shut it down the LA drops to 0.01-0.50 The problem is that I can not reinstall the apache since it's ensimed, I mean, Ensim (the control panel I was talking about) changed the apache to work with that stupid control panel In the night for example,

Re: AOL doesn't accept mail - free relaying of email

2003-10-20 Thread Boris Ratner
Hi, I happen to stumble across the AOL antispam policies several times all large Israeli (might be international as well) ISPs suffer from those. AOL have a self-developed heuristic anti-spam mechanism. This program finds out who is the owner of the IP block that the spam message is sent from

Re: what are the best security sites ?

2003-10-20 Thread Boris Ratner
I got my security HOWTOs from http://www.tldp.org Netfilter/iptables info from http://www.netfilter.org Securing Red-Hat Linux 9.0 pdf file from http://www.redhat.com regards Boris. Ben-Nes Michael wrote: Hi what are the best security web sites that have a good DB and monitor all the OS. (

Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-20 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 17:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aviram Jenik wrote: AFAIK if your MERKAZYIA supports pppoe (most of them do now), you should be ok As far as I learned about this - PPPoE vs. PPTP has nothing to do with the telco's exchange. PPPoE and PPTP are used only between the

Re: Help making Radeon 9000 work with XFree 4.3.0

2003-10-20 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 22:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm trying to make Xfree86 4.3.0 on Debian unstable (taken from http://people.debian.org/~mmagallo/packages/xfree86/i386) work with a Radeon 9000 (not PRO) with AMD Athlon 2500 with no success. There is a Xfree86 4.3 version in

Re: Help making Radeon 9000 work with XFree 4.3.0

2003-10-20 Thread Micha Feigin
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 12:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: I don't like to give consultation on non free software, but I'll try to help Thanks. What are other options if I want to get the most out of my hardware? I did a lot of googling over the last month since I

Re: distro with 2.6 kernel ?

2003-10-20 Thread Micha Feigin
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 15:06, Oded Arbel wrote: Speaking of cutting edge distros - I'm looking for a distro that comes out of the box with a 2.6-testX kernel - anyone know of such a thing ? Thx Its not out of the box, but debian has a package for 2.6.0-test7 right now. I am guessing you

Re: Help making Radeon 9000 work with XFree 4.3.0

2003-10-20 Thread Boris Ratner
0. Radeon 9000 (imho) IS supported by http://dri.sf.net check it out - they have a whole XFree86-dri server tree for debian sid with all of the drivers inside. (you don't have to recompile your kernel at all if this works) dri.sf.net drivers DO use native kernel radeon drm module. ATI's