Re: Printing Photos in Israel

2007-08-09 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
> Are you sure? I got to a page where they tell me to accept the ActiveX
> installation and remove the pop-up blocker...


Seems you are right. I guess my sister actually brings the camera/memory
card and prints there.
Sorry :-)
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Re: @iglu list address no longer working

2007-08-09 Thread Linux-IL Moderator
On Thursday August 9 2007, Ira Abramov wrote:
> Quoting Boaz Rymland, from the post of Thu, 09 Aug:
> > Hi Ira,
> >
> > I bumped into the same question some time ago - sending to iglu.org.il
> > silently failed.
> >
> > Here's why:
> >
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il/msg48796.html
>
> unclear why this influences the spam filtering but still there's a
> question - why is it that sending to the old addresses no bouncing with
> an explanation message?

I'll make it as short as possible: if iglu.org.il accepts and forwards all 
incoming mail to a certain alias to to [EMAIL PROTECTED], which considers 
iglu.org.il a somewhat trusted host, that effectively turns iglu.org.il to 
almost an open relay, while simultaneously reducing the effectiveness of spam 
filtering at huji and putting an additional load on the servers and 
moderators, due to the fact they have to accept the email initially and then 
filter it, rather than graylisting/checking against BLs and rejecting before 
starting the delivery. At this stage, I trust you to drive your own 
conclusions. We carefully thought this over during a number of evenings and I 
made a list of pros and cons of the existing situation. It wasn't a 
one-minute decision. In fact, the way it was implemented shows exactly how 
disorganized the system was. I think I made myself clear enough.

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Re: Printing Photos in Israel

2007-08-09 Thread Eran Tromer
Hi Yuval,

On 2007-08-09 03:57, Yuval Hager wrote:
> Does anybody know of a site in Israel in which you can upload your photos and 
> get them printed? It should
> 
> 1. Work with a non-IE browser
> 2. Have decent prices
> 3. Good service level and attitude.
> 
> I am looking for standard printing, in standard sizes, nothing special.

My best photo printing experience has been with simply going to a
friendly neighborhood photo shop/lab in Rehovot. They were very friendly
and professional, offered reasonable prices, were glad to accept the
photos in any reasonable format via e-mail or CD, didn't mind tweaking
their setup to produce custom-size panoramas, do (optional) manual
photo-by-photo color adjustment for free, and would refund (a reasonable
fraction of the) printouts if you don't like them. Plus, they ended up
asking me for one of those "Linux live CD" things to try out. Beat
*that* with a website.

  Eran

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Re: Printing Photos in Israel

2007-08-09 Thread Yuval Hager
ביום שישי 10 אוגוסט 2007, 00:04, נכתב על ידי Yedidyah Bar-David:
> 2007/8/9, Yuval Hager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Does anybody know of a site in Israel in which you can upload your photos
> > and
> > get them printed? It should
>
> I never used them myself, but my sister is a routine user of tzamtzam.co.il
> .
>
> 1. Work with a non-IE browser
>
>
> I think it works with FF
>

Are you sure? I got to a page where they tell me to accept the ActiveX 
installation and remove the pop-up blocker... 

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Re: Printing Photos in Israel

2007-08-09 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
2007/8/9, Yuval Hager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Hi,
>
> Does anybody know of a site in Israel in which you can upload your photos
> and
> get them printed? It should


I never used them myself, but my sister is a routine user of tzamtzam.co.il
.

1. Work with a non-IE browser


I think it works with FF

2. Have decent prices


I do not know but think they are decent. Prices are generally much lower
than what they were last time I printed anything myself.


3. Good service level and attitude.


I think she only got her pictures at the Mevaseret shop and is satisfied
with them.
Their site lists 10 shops, most at or around Jerusalem.

I am looking for standard printing, in standard sizes, nothing special.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --yuval
>
>
-- Didi


Re: Printing Photos in Israel

2007-08-09 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
>
> Hi,
>
> Does anybody know of a site in Israel in which you can upload your photos
> and
> get them printed? It should


I never used them myself, but my sister is a routine user of tzamtzam.co.il
.

1. Work with a non-IE browser


I think she only uses it with FF

2. Have decent prices


I do not know but think they are decent. Prices are generally much lower
than what they were last time I printed anything myself.


3. Good service level and attitude.


I think she only got her pictures at the Mevaseret shop and is satisfied
with them.
Their site lists 10 shops, most at or around Jerusalem.

I am looking for standard printing, in standard sizes, nothing special.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --yuval
>
>
-- Didi


Re: Memory undectable on Intel server board S5000VCL

2007-08-09 Thread Marc A. Volovic
Last I used PAE kernels (ages ago) - I saw 1-5% degradation in performance.
It was a while ago and I am not even sure I remember the versions any more.

What I remember is NOT scientific data.

M
- "Muli Ben-Yehuda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would like to understand this better, if you or Marc could shed
> more
> details? In general, I believe you know what they say about "lies,
> damn lies, and performance numbers". See some numbers from Ingo
> Molnar
> which give the PAE overhead at a round 0.0% here:
> http://kerneltrap.org/node/2891. YMMV.
> 
>100Hz100.00%
>100Hz + PAE:   0.00%
> 
>1000Hz:   -1.08%
>1000Hz + PAE: -1.08%
> 
> Cheers,
> Muli
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Re: Webmail like Gmail + encryption

2007-08-09 Thread Gadi Cohen
Never used it but there's www.hushmail.com.


Kfir Lavi wrote:

> Hi,
> I would like to keep company emails secure and encrypted.
> I'm looking for a webmail program that is similar to Gmail. It don't
> have to own all the stuff, just to be productive.
> I would also want encryption. I want all the emails be encrypted
> automatically.
> What is the procedure for a user? should he take with him a usb
> private key?
> I'm looking for your comments on the idea.
>
> Tnx,
> Kfir


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Re: Memory undectable on Intel server board S5000VCL

2007-08-09 Thread Michael Tewner
isnt' there a bigmem kernel for situations just like these?


On 8/9/07, Muli Ben-Yehuda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 02:59:02PM +0300, Ira Abramov wrote:
> > Quoting Muli Ben-Yehuda, from the post of Thu, 09 Aug:
> > >
> > > Because some PCI devices cannot deal with addresses over 4G. To be
> > > able to map the RAM that has physical address over 4G in the CPU's
> > > page tables, you need a PAE kernel. As for the penalty on speed, I
> > > doubt you'll be able to measure it, and it will be offset by the extra
> > > RAM.
> >
> > According to Marc (who is a man I don't like to disagree with) it's
> > a hit of 3-5% on average on grid machines if I recall.
>
> I would like to understand this better, if you or Marc could shed more
> details? In general, I believe you know what they say about "lies,
> damn lies, and performance numbers". See some numbers from Ingo Molnar
> which give the PAE overhead at a round 0.0% here:
> http://kerneltrap.org/node/2891. YMMV.
>
>100Hz100.00%
>100Hz + PAE:   0.00%
>
>1000Hz:   -1.08%
>1000Hz + PAE: -1.08%
>
> Cheers,
> Muli
>
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Re: Webmail like Gmail + encryption

2007-08-09 Thread Oded Arbel
On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 15:07 +0300, Ira Abramov wrote:
> Quoting Kfir Lavi, from the post of Thu, 09 Aug:
> > Hi,
> > I would like to keep company emails secure and encrypted.
> > I would also want encryption. I want all the emails be encrypted
> > automatically.

> I have not seen an
> encryption solution on a webmail product that is both conveniant AND
> secure... one almost contradicts the other. the only GOOD solution would
> be a combination extension/greasemonkey script that will automatically
> decrypt incoming mail and force you to encrypt outgoing one at the
> browser's end and that also means it's accessible only from a machine
> that has been set up for it.

One might also say that the email is accessible on any machine where it
has been setup for it, including public terminals - so its not that
secure unless you have tight control of the clients, which kind of beats
the point of having webmail.

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Re: Memory undectable on Intel server board S5000VCL

2007-08-09 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 02:59:02PM +0300, Ira Abramov wrote:
> Quoting Muli Ben-Yehuda, from the post of Thu, 09 Aug:
> > 
> > Because some PCI devices cannot deal with addresses over 4G. To be
> > able to map the RAM that has physical address over 4G in the CPU's
> > page tables, you need a PAE kernel. As for the penalty on speed, I
> > doubt you'll be able to measure it, and it will be offset by the extra
> > RAM.
> 
> According to Marc (who is a man I don't like to disagree with) it's
> a hit of 3-5% on average on grid machines if I recall.

I would like to understand this better, if you or Marc could shed more
details? In general, I believe you know what they say about "lies,
damn lies, and performance numbers". See some numbers from Ingo Molnar
which give the PAE overhead at a round 0.0% here:
http://kerneltrap.org/node/2891. YMMV.

   100Hz100.00%
   100Hz + PAE:   0.00%

   1000Hz:   -1.08%
   1000Hz + PAE: -1.08%

Cheers,
Muli

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@iglu list address no longer working

2007-08-09 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Boaz Rymland, from the post of Thu, 09 Aug:
> Hi Ira,
> 
> I bumped into the same question some time ago - sending to iglu.org.il
> silently failed.
> 
> Here's why:
> 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il/msg48796.html

unclear why this influences the spam filtering but still there's a
question - why is it that sending to the old addresses no bouncing with
an explanation message?

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Re: Memory undectable on Intel server board S5000VCL

2007-08-09 Thread Boaz Rymland
Hi Ira,

I bumped into the same question some time ago - sending to iglu.org.il
silently failed.

Here's why:

http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il/msg48796.html


Boaz.


Ira Abramov wrote:

> annoying! I just figured out why my posts to the list have disappeared
> in the last couple of months... the @iglu.org.il alias no longer points
> to huji. why is that? Uff... NM, here is the question again...
>
> - Forwarded message from Ira Abramov
>
> To: IGLU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Memory undectable on Intel server board S5000VCL
> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:30:22 +0300
>
> Howdie folks.
>
> I just transplanted my server to a new 1U Pizza. An amazing bargain. A
> Quad-core Xeon on a dual-CPU Intel board (room for enhancement!) with 4G
> of FBDIMMs, and two 500GB disks, all came to just over 10K NIS after
> taxes.
>
> The problems I see so far: hardware raid doesn't work in Debian (There
> are binary-only drivers for RHEL and SuSE EL), there are special
> editions of the e1000 drivers that are supposed to speed up the network
> through some partial off loading, I haven't read what they do yet. but
> the problem I am having is the PCI memory mapping. It's set at "2.5GB" by
> default in the BIOS, and Debian Etch comes up and indeed sees only
> 2.5GB. I have set it up to 3.5G to lose less RAM, but I would still like
> to use the rest of the RAM! I tried booting with ram=4G but still the
> kernel sees only 3.5. I guess I need to use memmap= as well, but I don't
> have that information.
>
> the only clue is this tiny line in the BIOS docs:
>
> -PAE mode and the equivalent Linux mode must be set to see > 2.5GB
> of memory.
>
> but running the debian "bigmem" kernel with 4G or less has an unwanted
> penalty on speed, doesn't it?
>
> any advice?
>
>   

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Re: Webmail like Gmail + encryption

2007-08-09 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Kfir Lavi, from the post of Thu, 09 Aug:
> Hi,
> I would like to keep company emails secure and encrypted.
> I'm looking for a webmail program that is similar to Gmail. It don't have to
> own all the stuff, just to be productive.
> I would also want encryption. I want all the emails be encrypted
> automatically.
> What is the procedure for a user? should he take with him a usb private key?
> I'm looking for your comments on the idea.

webmail is done at the server, and therefore the encryption can either
be done on the server (and you must use SSL at the minimum) and have the
user enter the passphrase for each mail he sends and recieves or else
(caching the key) is no security at all.

the other option is encrypting/decrypting at the browser level (with a
DoK) and that's a neucense in itself.

the easiest and possibly safest is on a Portable version of Thunderbird,
a local key with an S/MIME or similar extension. I have not seen an
encryption solution on a webmail product that is both conveniant AND
secure... one almost contradicts the other. the only GOOD solution would
be a combination extension/greasemonkey script that will automatically
decrypt incoming mail and force you to encrypt outgoing one at the
browser's end and that also means it's accessible only from a machine
that has been set up for it.

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Re: Webmail like Gmail + encryption

2007-08-09 Thread Dvir Volk
I know that Zimbra did a gmail clone skin to their webmail recently called
Zmail.
http://www.zimbra.com/blog/archives/2007/06/we_call_it_zmail.html

but I haven't tried it, and I don't know how well the search works for
example. also it doesn't AFAIK have the conversation mode of gmail, which is
what i like most about it.

On 8/9/07, Kfir Lavi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I would like to keep company emails secure and encrypted.
> I'm looking for a webmail program that is similar to Gmail. It don't have
> to own all the stuff, just to be productive.
> I would also want encryption. I want all the emails be encrypted
> automatically.
> What is the procedure for a user? should he take with him a usb private
> key?
> I'm looking for your comments on the idea.
>
> Tnx,
> Kfir
>


Re: Memory undectable on Intel server board S5000VCL

2007-08-09 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Muli Ben-Yehuda, from the post of Thu, 09 Aug:
> 
> Because some PCI devices cannot deal with addresses over 4G. To be
> able to map the RAM that has physical address over 4G in the CPU's
> page tables, you need a PAE kernel. As for the penalty on speed, I
> doubt you'll be able to measure it, and it will be offset by the extra
> RAM.

According to Marc (who is a man I don't like to disagree with) it's a
hit of 3-5% on average on grid machines if I recall.

welp... we'll wait for the need for that extra 1/2 a gig to arrive and
then reconsider using it. for now it's doing OK :)


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Webmail like Gmail + encryption

2007-08-09 Thread Kfir Lavi
Hi,
I would like to keep company emails secure and encrypted.
I'm looking for a webmail program that is similar to Gmail. It don't have to
own all the stuff, just to be productive.
I would also want encryption. I want all the emails be encrypted
automatically.
What is the procedure for a user? should he take with him a usb private key?
I'm looking for your comments on the idea.

Tnx,
Kfir


Re: [JOB for freelancer] need a freelancer to take over a customer

2007-08-09 Thread sara fink
My phone number is 054-5506281.

Sorana

On 8/9/07, Ira Abramov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> howdie folks!
>
> I have this small customer I need to find a solution for. they need
> support for 1-2 hours a month tops and I just never get around to give
> them propper response times they need with my current schedule.
>
> The outfit is a tiny company in the R"G "bursa" area, they have about
> 10-15 mailboxes on one machine with pop3+imap+squirrelmail access, that
> machine is also firewall, router, dhcp, etc. running Debian Etch. All
> accessible via SSH of course.
>
> There is a second Etch machine which is a static mail server.
>
> I have long streaks of quiet uptime, the backup is automatic, the disks
> never overflow, the problems with the ISP are few. however just in the
> last month they had a spam attack that drained the SMTP connections,
> then clamd started dying in the mornings because of locked databases, I
> just installed "monit" to patch the problem instead of solving it, and
> in a third case a mail polling problem ended up being an outlook
> problem... (they keep thousands of items in their inboxes)
>
> In short, they need a helping hand, they will pay the $50 an hour they
> have payed me for the last few years and they pay on time, they just
> have to have the system stable because it's the heart of their business,
> and I'm not available enough, not even on SSH.
>
> can anyone take over from me?
>
> Please contact offlist of course, to my business address preferably:
> ira.abramov >at< scso >dot< com
>
>
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Re: Memory undectable on Intel server board S5000VCL

2007-08-09 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Huh? your mail has been received well (this and the first one you sent)

Thanks,
Hetz

On 09/08/07, Ira Abramov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> annoying! I just figured out why my posts to the list have disappeared
> in the last couple of months... the @iglu.org.il alias no longer points
> to huji. why is that? Uff... NM, here is the question again...
>
> - Forwarded message from Ira Abramov
>
> To: IGLU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Memory undectable on Intel server board S5000VCL
> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:30:22 +0300
>
> Howdie folks.
>
> I just transplanted my server to a new 1U Pizza. An amazing bargain. A
> Quad-core Xeon on a dual-CPU Intel board (room for enhancement!) with 4G
> of FBDIMMs, and two 500GB disks, all came to just over 10K NIS after
> taxes.
>
> The problems I see so far: hardware raid doesn't work in Debian (There
> are binary-only drivers for RHEL and SuSE EL), there are special
> editions of the e1000 drivers that are supposed to speed up the network
> through some partial off loading, I haven't read what they do yet. but
> the problem I am having is the PCI memory mapping. It's set at "2.5GB" by
> default in the BIOS, and Debian Etch comes up and indeed sees only
> 2.5GB. I have set it up to 3.5G to lose less RAM, but I would still like
> to use the rest of the RAM! I tried booting with ram=4G but still the
> kernel sees only 3.5. I guess I need to use memmap= as well, but I don't
> have that information.
>
> the only clue is this tiny line in the BIOS docs:
>
> -PAE mode and the equivalent Linux mode must be set to see > 2.5GB
> of memory.
>
> but running the debian "bigmem" kernel with 4G or less has an unwanted
> penalty on speed, doesn't it?
>
> any advice?
>
> --
> Another brick in the wall
> Ira Abramov
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Re: Memory undectable on Intel server board S5000VCL

2007-08-09 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 11:23:09AM +0300, Ira Abramov wrote:

> the problem I am having is the PCI memory mapping. It's set at
> "2.5GB" by default in the BIOS, and Debian Etch comes up and indeed
> sees only 2.5GB. I have set it up to 3.5G to lose less RAM, but I
> would still like to use the rest of the RAM! I tried booting with
> ram=4G but still the kernel sees only 3.5. I guess I need to use
> memmap= as well, but I don't have that information.
> 
> the only clue is this tiny line in the BIOS docs:
> 
> -PAE mode and the equivalent Linux mode must be set to see >
> 2.5GB of memory.
> 
> but running the debian "bigmem" kernel with 4G or less has an
> unwanted penalty on speed, doesn't it?

For all intents and purposes, you have more than 4G of RAM. More
accurately, some of your RAM is only addressable using addresses that
are over 4G. The reason why is that your physical memory addresses
look like this (simplified):

0<---RAM--->3.5G<---PCI HOLE---><---more RAM over 4G--->

Because some PCI devices cannot deal with addresses over 4G. To be
able to map the RAM that has physical address over 4G in the CPU's
page tables, you need a PAE kernel. As for the penalty on speed, I
doubt you'll be able to measure it, and it will be offset by the extra
RAM.

Cheers,
Muli

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[JOB for freelancer] need a freelancer to take over a customer

2007-08-09 Thread Ira Abramov
howdie folks!

I have this small customer I need to find a solution for. they need
support for 1-2 hours a month tops and I just never get around to give
them propper response times they need with my current schedule.

The outfit is a tiny company in the R"G "bursa" area, they have about
10-15 mailboxes on one machine with pop3+imap+squirrelmail access, that
machine is also firewall, router, dhcp, etc. running Debian Etch. All
accessible via SSH of course.

There is a second Etch machine which is a static mail server.

I have long streaks of quiet uptime, the backup is automatic, the disks
never overflow, the problems with the ISP are few. however just in the
last month they had a spam attack that drained the SMTP connections,
then clamd started dying in the mornings because of locked databases, I
just installed "monit" to patch the problem instead of solving it, and
in a third case a mail polling problem ended up being an outlook
problem... (they keep thousands of items in their inboxes)

In short, they need a helping hand, they will pay the $50 an hour they
have payed me for the last few years and they pay on time, they just
have to have the system stable because it's the heart of their business,
and I'm not available enough, not even on SSH.

can anyone take over from me?

Please contact offlist of course, to my business address preferably:
ira.abramov >at< scso >dot< com


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Memory undectable on Intel server board S5000VCL

2007-08-09 Thread Ira Abramov
annoying! I just figured out why my posts to the list have disappeared
in the last couple of months... the @iglu.org.il alias no longer points
to huji. why is that? Uff... NM, here is the question again...

- Forwarded message from Ira Abramov

To: IGLU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Memory undectable on Intel server board S5000VCL
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:30:22 +0300

Howdie folks.

I just transplanted my server to a new 1U Pizza. An amazing bargain. A
Quad-core Xeon on a dual-CPU Intel board (room for enhancement!) with 4G
of FBDIMMs, and two 500GB disks, all came to just over 10K NIS after
taxes.

The problems I see so far: hardware raid doesn't work in Debian (There
are binary-only drivers for RHEL and SuSE EL), there are special
editions of the e1000 drivers that are supposed to speed up the network
through some partial off loading, I haven't read what they do yet. but
the problem I am having is the PCI memory mapping. It's set at "2.5GB" by
default in the BIOS, and Debian Etch comes up and indeed sees only
2.5GB. I have set it up to 3.5G to lose less RAM, but I would still like
to use the rest of the RAM! I tried booting with ram=4G but still the
kernel sees only 3.5. I guess I need to use memmap= as well, but I don't
have that information.

the only clue is this tiny line in the BIOS docs:

-PAE mode and the equivalent Linux mode must be set to see > 2.5GB
of memory.

but running the debian "bigmem" kernel with 4G or less has an unwanted
penalty on speed, doesn't it?

any advice?

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Printing Photos in Israel

2007-08-09 Thread Yuval Hager
Hi,

Does anybody know of a site in Israel in which you can upload your photos and 
get them printed? It should

1. Work with a non-IE browser
2. Have decent prices
3. Good service level and attitude.

I am looking for standard printing, in standard sizes, nothing special.

Thanks,

--yuval


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Re: System resource monitoring and reporting utility ?

2007-08-09 Thread Michael Tewner
SNMP in Solaris is pain.
Installation is a pain.
Configuration is a pain.
Maintenance is less of a pain.


On 8/9/07, Amos Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 09/08/07, Mike Tewner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've worked with tons of programs that do this - none of them have
> > filled all my requirements. One thing, though - I didin't want to rely
> > on SNMP - My ultimate solution would be a system that will ssh to a
> > machine and run commands, process the output.
>
> Why not SNMP? With SNMP v3 there is adequate authentication/encryption, the
> standard snmp daemon on linux makes it very easy to add SNMP interface in
> front of any new measure you want to watch, snmp traps can serve the purpose
> of alerts and the standard protocol means that you can access the info using
> a multitude of tools.
>
> So why not?
>
> --Amos
>
>

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