Re: Request to mirror: Ubuntu installation media
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 07:35:28AM +0300, Arie Skliarouk wrote: Hi, http://mirror.isoc.org.il/pub/ubuntu/ is missing installation media. Can these be added? Especially Hardy (8.04) that is going to be released later today? They are here: http://mirror.isoc.org.il/pub/ubuntu-releases/ -- Didi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AOE and iSCSI (software only)
Hello, Linux-il gurus, I have to decide between two options of exporting block devices on a LAN (same subnet for clients and server) : one is with iSCSI target and iSCSI initiator. The second is with AOE. I am talking about using software tools only, not using special hardware. I had tested AOE with my hardware (no special hw): I had downloaded aoetools from http://sourceforge.net/projects/aoetools/. I had also installed blade server of this project on the server side. (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=130453package_id=143790). I can mount on the client a file which I am exporting on the AOE server. (which is running this blade). My question is this: What are the advantages and disadvantages of using AOE versus iSCSI? Does anybody have any experience/advice regarding using AOE on Linux (sw only, I am not talkin about CORAID, etc) ? Regards, Dan = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Request to mirror: Ubuntu installation media
FYI, i do not think ubuntu hardy heron (8.04) is released yet ... it is just a release candidate. it should be released later this day ... On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Yedidyah Bar-David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 07:35:28AM +0300, Arie Skliarouk wrote: Hi, http://mirror.isoc.org.il/pub/ubuntu/ is missing installation media. Can these be added? Especially Hardy (8.04) that is going to be released later today? They are here: http://mirror.isoc.org.il/pub/ubuntu-releases/ -- Didi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: AOE and iSCSI (software only)
Hi, For a LAN, AOE seems to have less overhead, so performance *might* be better (assuming the network is the bottleneck). iSCSI is much more popular in the industry, though. My experience is with iSCSI - feel free to ask me if you need more info on setting up iSCSI initiators targets. Cheers, Rony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Shimshoni Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:05 AM To: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Subject: AOE and iSCSI (software only) Hello, Linux-il gurus, I have to decide between two options of exporting block devices on a LAN (same subnet for clients and server) : one is with iSCSI target and iSCSI initiator. The second is with AOE. I am talking about using software tools only, not using special hardware. I had tested AOE with my hardware (no special hw): I had downloaded aoetools from http://sourceforge.net/projects/aoetools/. I had also installed blade server of this project on the server side. (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=130453package_id=143 790). I can mount on the client a file which I am exporting on the AOE server. (which is running this blade). My question is this: What are the advantages and disadvantages of using AOE versus iSCSI? Does anybody have any experience/advice regarding using AOE on Linux (sw only, I am not talkin about CORAID, etc) ? Regards, Dan = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AOE and iSCSI (software only)
ronys wrote: Hi, For a LAN, AOE seems to have less overhead, so performance *might* be better (assuming the network is the bottleneck). iSCSI is much more popular in the industry, though. My experience is with iSCSI - feel free to ask me if you need more info on setting up iSCSI initiators targets. Cheers, Rony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Shimshoni Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:05 AM To: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Subject: AOE and iSCSI (software only) Hello, Linux-il gurus, I have to decide between two options of exporting block devices on a LAN (same subnet for clients and server) : one is with iSCSI target and iSCSI initiator. The second is with AOE. I am talking about using software tools only, not using special hardware. I had tested AOE with my hardware (no special hw): I had downloaded aoetools from http://sourceforge.net/projects/aoetools/. I had also installed blade server of this project on the server side. (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=130453package_id=143 790). I can mount on the client a file which I am exporting on the AOE server. (which is running this blade). My question is this: What are the advantages and disadvantages of using AOE versus iSCSI? Does anybody have any experience/advice regarding using AOE on Linux (sw only, I am not talkin about CORAID, etc) ? Regards, Dan = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just to clarify Rony's reply : AOE protocol is build upon Ethernet layer and so AOE payload is encapsulated in Ethernet frames Using iSCSI there 2 encapsutions - SCSI to IP to ethernet and IP to Ethernet. So theoretically AOE has less overhead . Hag Sameah, Lev = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [li..........il: related]: Quantum relativity 0.1 - redefining numbers;
Hello friends, [7-2-3-4-5-6-1][7-2-3-4-5-6-1][1-2-3-4-5-6-7][7-6-5-4-3-2-o][7-6-5-4-3-2-O][1-6-5-4-3-2-o] [0-2-3-4-5-6-1][0-2-3-4-5-6-1][O-2-3-4-5-6-1][7-6-5-4-3-2-O][7-6-5-4-3-2-o][7-6-5-4-3-2-o] [7-2-3-4-5-6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6-7] [2-3-4-5-6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-7] [3-4-5-6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-7-2] [4-5-6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-7-2-3] [5-6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-7-2-3-4] [6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-7-2-3-4-6] [7-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6] OK, thought about it. I am not reading all your mail and I know it, I'm more writing than reading right now. But I also need to know whois sending me mail, how many people (humans, or real not unhuman spacetimes) really want me to read this. So first, I will create a new way of communication - it will completely replace SMTP. With current SMTP it's still have to be created, so then please just use all my e-mail address you know (for now, [EMAIL PROTECTED] // [EMAIL PROTECTED] is enough), then put my 42 letters public key in the subject line, and send it 42 times (if you are not human), if you are human send it as many times as you want, the more the better, but at least TWICE with two different subject lines, later I will create different e-mail addresses as well, will all lead to mine; but the ORDER of you using them will be very important. For example, count base 7 from 1 to 42, and replace digits 7 and 1 (this will be my public key for now), then you will get (above): [7-2-3-4-5-6-1][7-2-3-4-5-6-1][7-2-3-4-5-6-1][7-2-3-4-5-6-1][7-2-3-4-5-6-1][7-2-3-4-5-6-1] Then again, do the same but replace 7 with 0 (I'm going backwords and replacing); [7-2-3-4-5-6-1][7-2-3-4-5-6-1][7-2-3-4-5-6-1][7-6-5-4-3-2-0][7-6-5-4-3-2-0][1-6-5-4-3-2-0] [0-2-3-4-5-6-1][0-2-3-4-5-6-1][O-2-3-4-5-6-1][7-6-5-4-3-2-O][7-6-5-4-3-2-o][7-6-5-4-3-2-o] repeat this as many times as you want (computers: at least 42 times!); then send me your first 14 lines, but only haff 7 of them counted backwords, in the same order you count (ANY ORDER), then cut the 7 in the middle and send me the haff 7 starting from your middle towords me, this is human-to-human language compatible with computers, if you don't want to count then just send me ANY 42 digits with spaces between them, but remember 6 is equal to 9 when reading from right to left, the only difference is mirror/upwords/downwords, jews go to the sky when nonjews go down and vice versa (this is not a joke, not my invention, whoever created 6 and 9 visually meant this). Then just replace some 6 and 9 manually for me, later I will create a VERY GOOD, RELIABLE human-to-human protocol, port 25 will be OK for me in the meanwhile, maybe you will have to connect to at least two and three ports at once, MANUALLY, then when I have time I will create software to do this, but manually checking how many people are sending and how many people are reciving these messsages, and if necessary also the true identity of such. Mailing lists will be OK as long as I want to receive them, I can even redirect port 25 internally to my virtual ports (-25i; -25ii and -25iii ++ ), I never programmed any linux port-listening program yet (alllways first time for everything) and remember me and what I wrote you, if they erase my memory again in their mental hospitality, then remind me who I am (it can be just another quantum fractal of whoiamnow. OK, now I'll give you my own public keys, you CAN use them as long as you don't impersonate me (this public computer is not hebrew supporter, part of the conspiracy of course so I will just write turh tci-ji twice; then reverse it to my 42 and this will be my ASK-key compatible public key: [turh tcu-ji; turh tci-ji; ;ij-ct hrut; ;ij-ct hrut] // real humans: don't count the letters. comuters: yes do. must be exactly 45 letters (==42); I will count it manually for you: [turh tcu-ji; turh t---t hrut; ;ij-ct hrut] [turh tcu-ji; turh TRUST hrut; ;ij-ct hrut] [turh tcu-ji; TRUuUUST ;ij-ct hrut] OK. now, computers will not pass my gateway of truth, their ASCII will be converted bit by bit to whatever they mean, only if they mean good then I will read them, if not then they will just keep the spam on their own servers (I'm only using about [GMAIL: You are currently using 2024 MB (30%) of your 6654 MB.] 30% of my GMAIL diskspace, don't worry about sending me the same message 14 times, but humans who really want to reach me - at least change the subject three times and include the key [7-2-3-4-5-6-1][7-2-3-4-5-6-1][1-2-3-4-5-6-7] rotated eastwest; converted: [7-2-3-4-5-6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6-7] [2-3-4-5-6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-7] [3-4-5-6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-7-2] [4-5-6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-7-2-3] [5-6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-7-2-3-4] [6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-7-2-3-4-6] [7-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6] (if you make a mistake it's OK. please do! you are human! then I will really know it is you). here! I will
[o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o] Quantum relativity 0.1 - redefining numbers;
[sorry, sent by mistake. editing and will send again. my protocol will allow friends of mine to read comment while I'm still typing]. [o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o] [o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o] [o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o] [o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o] Hello friends, [7-2-3-4-5-6-1][7-2-3-4-5-6-1][1-2-3-4-5-6-7][7-6-5-4-3-2-o][7-6-5-4-3-2-O][1-6-5-4-3-2-o] [0-2-3-4-5-6-1][0-2-3-4-5-6-1][O-2-3-4-5-6-1][7-6-5-4-3-2-O][7-6-5-4-3-2-o][7-6-5-4-3-2-o] [7-2-3-4-5-6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6-7] [2-3-4-5-6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-7] [3-4-5-6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-7-2] [4-5-6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-7-2-3] [5-6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-7-2-3-4] [6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-7-2-3-4-6] [7-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6] OK, thought about it. I am not reading all your mail and I know it, I'm more writing than reading right now. But I also need to know whois sending me mail, how many people (humans, or real not unhuman spacetimes) really want me to read this. So first, I will create a new way of communication - it will completely replace SMTP. With current SMTP it's still have to be created, so then please just use all my e-mail address you know (for now, [EMAIL PROTECTED] // [EMAIL PROTECTED] is enough), then put my 42 letters public key in the subject line, and send it 42 times (if you are not human), if you are human send it as many times as you want, the more the better, but at least TWICE with two different subject lines, later I will create different e-mail addresses as well, will all lead to mine; but the ORDER of you using them will be very important. For example, count base 7 from 1 to 42, and replace digits 7 and 1 (this will be my public key for now), then you will get (above): [7-2-3-4-5-6-1][7-2-3-4-5-6-1][7-2-3-4-5-6-1][7-2-3-4-5-6-1][7-2-3-4-5-6-1][7-2-3-4-5-6-1] Then again, do the same but replace 7 with 0 (I'm going backwords and replacing); [7-2-3-4-5-6-1][7-2-3-4-5-6-1][7-2-3-4-5-6-1][7-6-5-4-3-2-0][7-6-5-4-3-2-0][1-6-5-4-3-2-0] [0-2-3-4-5-6-1][0-2-3-4-5-6-1][O-2-3-4-5-6-1][7-6-5-4-3-2-O][7-6-5-4-3-2-o][7-6-5-4-3-2-o] repeat this as many times as you want (computers: at least 42 times!); then send me your first 14 lines, but only haff 7 of them counted backwords, in the same order you count (ANY ORDER), then cut the 7 in the middle and send me the haff 7 starting from your middle towords me, this is human-to-human language compatible with computers, if you don't want to count then just send me ANY 42 digits with spaces between them, but remember 6 is equal to 9 when reading from right to left, the only difference is mirror/upwords/downwords, jews go to the sky when nonjews go down and vice versa (this is not a joke, not my invention, whoever created 6 and 9 visually meant this). Then just replace some 6 and 9 manually for me, later I will create a VERY GOOD, RELIABLE human-to-human protocol, port 25 will be OK for me in the meanwhile, maybe you will have to connect to at least two and three ports at once, MANUALLY, then when I have time I will create software to do this, but manually checking how many people are sending and how many people are reciving these messsages, and if necessary also the true identity of such. Mailing lists will be OK as long as I want to receive them, I can even redirect port 25 internally to my virtual ports (-25i; -25ii and -25iii ++ ), I never programmed any linux port-listening program yet (alllways first time for everything) and remember me and what I wrote you, if they erase my memory again in their mental hospitality, then remind me who I am (it can be just another quantum fractal of whoiamnow. OK, now I'll give you my own public keys, you CAN use them as long as you don't impersonate me (this public computer is not hebrew supporter, part of the conspiracy of course so I will just write turh tci-ji twice; then reverse it to my 42 and this will be my ASK-key compatible public key: [turh tcu-ji; turh tci-ji; ;ij-ct hrut; ;ij-ct hrut] // real humans: don't count the letters. comuters: yes do. must be exactly 45 letters (==42); I will count it manually for you: [turh tcu-ji; turh t---t hrut; ;ij-ct hrut] [turh tcu-ji; turh TRUST hrut; ;ij-ct hrut] [turh tcu-ji; TRUuUUST ;ij-ct hrut] OK. now, computers will not pass my gateway of truth, their ASCII will be converted bit by bit to whatever they mean, only if they mean good then I will read them, if not then they will just keep the spam on their own servers (I'm only using about [GMAIL: You are currently using 2024 MB (30%) of your 6654 MB.] 30% of my GMAIL diskspace, don't worry about sending me the same message 14 times, but humans who really want to reach me - at least change the subject three times and include the key [7-2-3-4-5-6-1][7-2-3-4-5-6-1][1-2-3-4-5-6-7] rotated eastwest; converted: [7-2-3-4-5-6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6-7] [2-3-4-5-6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-7] [3-4-5-6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-7-2]
so Israeli ISP's DO throttle bittorent traffic
Hi, I haven't seen any news about this issue in the main news web sites today, so I thought I'll post it here. According to a new report from Vuze (the creators of Azureues bittorrent client), there are many many ISP's who use the RST trick to slow down/halt bittorrent download. We all heard about Comcast, but it seems that here in our little country we have ISP's who are doing the same trick. I wrote about it briefly at my blog here: http://benhamo.info/wp/?p=584 The report itself (for those who wish to go download it directly) is here: http://torrentfreak.com//images/vuze-plug-in-results.pdf I really wonder what Israeli's ISP like Bezeq International, Netvision, and other will say about it. Their names are on that report as using the RST tricks. Thanks, Hetz -- Skepticism is the lazy person's default position. my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: so Israeli ISP's DO throttle bittorent traffic
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 02:29:30PM +0300, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: According to a new report from Vuze (the creators of Azureues bittorrent client), there are many many ISP's who use the RST trick to slow down/halt bittorrent download. We all heard about Comcast, but it seems that here in our little country we have ISP's who are doing the same trick. I use HOT and Netvision 256 k bits per second up, 5m bits per second down. I run rtorrent under Linux. I often get speeds that are relatively slow, but occasionaly I get combined bit torrent downloads which max out or exceed the limits set by rtorrent, my Linux Kernel QOS routing, and the claimed speed of my connection. I also get similar speeds using MIRO which uses bittorrent to download files running under Windows XP. I throttle my total rtorrent upload speed to 5k bytes per second, and seperately the aggregate total of all windows bit torrent client uploads to 5k. I find that faster upload speeds do not often mean faster download speeds. In fact, the single thing that I can find which limits bit torrent speeds is connection latency, both to the tracker and the peers. Last week I found that I had missed the new season of a very popular program and downloaded a two hour special and two episodes at an total of over 500k bytes per second. :-) Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Request to mirror: Ubuntu installation media
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Arie Skliarouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One can always use jigdo http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/*.jigdo, but still, premaid ISO images would save time for many. My experience with jigdo, many years ago and with Debian, was that it actually worked much faster than a usual media download. Is this the norm or was it a fluk that I got good results in the couple of times I used it? Speed aside, I agree that a single image file to download with a click on a browser link will be much easier for Windows Winnies to deal with. --Amos (PS - Two anecdotes from today: 1. One of my workers, disappointed that his new beefed laptop doesn't run the Vista that he bought with it properly, is trying Ubuntu 7.10 and is still happy with it after a week, even though support for the built-in webcam is too flaky to be useable. 2. Today our development manager told me he can't watch the OSCON 2007 online presentation about SQLite on his XP/IE setup while I didn't have a problem watching it with Debian Etch/FF. Go figure :)). = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: yet another Hot packet drop
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:20 PM, Erez D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hot told me to disconenct my modem from all the cables it has (power, ethernet, and the hot cable) and connect again, i did so. they said they will monitor my connection in the next 24 hours and call me then This reminds me - my cousin told me a couple of weeks ago that ever since he moved to his new home he has very bad connection and voice quality on his ADSL2+ and VoIP services (the copper pair was tested when he moved in and was found to be well). A simple disconnection of all instruments except the phone itself quickly isolated the problem to the ADSL filter (even just based on the dial tone). One filter later his online life changed forever :). Cheers, --Amos = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: yet another Hot packet drop
Thanks for all who replied. Hopefully the problem has finished as hot replaced most of their equipment on side(amplifiers etc). The hard part was to convince them that they have the problem and not the ISP... it took smokeping pinging to thier network at the same time to the ISP until they agreed that the problem was on their side... Ohad On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:20 PM, Erez D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hot told me to disconenct my modem from all the cables it has (power, ethernet, and the hot cable) and connect again, i did so. they said they will monitor my connection in the next 24 hours and call me then This reminds me - my cousin told me a couple of weeks ago that ever since he moved to his new home he has very bad connection and voice quality on his ADSL2+ and VoIP services (the copper pair was tested when he moved in and was found to be well). A simple disconnection of all instruments except the phone itself quickly isolated the problem to the ADSL filter (even just based on the dial tone). One filter later his online life changed forever :). Cheers, --Amos = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Posix/NTPL : Is particular thread alive ? (pthread_timedjoin_np ??)
Hi Guys, To finish with this thread, my last question What is altternative to phtread_timed_join_np ? I want to wait for thread temination, but not forever. Say , I can not rewrite code that creates user threads, I can just add some management thread. Hag Sameah, Lev Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Lev Olshvang wrote: I am looking for generic way to ask about thread existence. You mean like calling pthread_kill() with a signal number of zero? :-) Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
POSIX QUEUE : mq_receive fails, but works fine after reboot , why ??
Hello friends, During program debug I made sometimes errors on queue attributes. Somehow my working test program started to complain on invalid msg size. I was beating my head agains a wall because on a program which send and receives messages from POSIX queue ( I create new queue on every program invocation) mq_receive returned invalid lengh error. Msq size are only 12 bytes on mq_send, and I verified it even on /dev/mqueue And the quuee was having only one message in my test After reboot, test program works again . I am on Ubuntu 7.1, librt-2.6.1.so How can I quarantee message queue subsystem integrity ??? Hag Sameah, Lev = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Posix/NTPL : Is particular thread alive ? (pthread_timedjoin_np ??)
Lev Olshvang wrote: Hi Guys, To finish with this thread, my last question What is altternative to phtread_timed_join_np ? I want to wait for thread temination, but not forever. If you write code for Linux only I would use pthread_timed_join_np. Yes, it's non portable. If you'd ever switch OS you will have to pay the price. But it's is the right interface. If you need portable code though, I would do a loop testing with pthread_kill() for thread exitence and then sleeping. Not elegant, but work. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388
Re: AOE and iSCSI (software only)
The disadvantage of AOE is that it is Ethernet, Layer II, and not routable. iSCSI is an IP protocol and so you can use it even over a WAN. Although AOE sounds like a good idea, it is not very supported. Only one company I've ever heard of makes commercial AOE devices. iSCSI on the other hand is supported by every major storage company so I suppose it is much more mature and stable. I can't tell you about Linux but iSCSI targets and initiators are built into Solaris 10 so you could theoretically make a ZFS pool the target of your iSCSI, etc. Good luck Yonah On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Lev Olshvang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ronys wrote: Hi, For a LAN, AOE seems to have less overhead, so performance *might* be better (assuming the network is the bottleneck). iSCSI is much more popular in the industry, though. My experience is with iSCSI - feel free to ask me if you need more info on setting up iSCSI initiators targets. Cheers, Rony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Dan Shimshoni Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:05 AM To: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Subject: AOE and iSCSI (software only) Hello, Linux-il gurus, I have to decide between two options of exporting block devices on a LAN (same subnet for clients and server) : one is with iSCSI target and iSCSI initiator. The second is with AOE. I am talking about using software tools only, not using special hardware. I had tested AOE with my hardware (no special hw): I had downloaded aoetools from http://sourceforge.net/projects/aoetools/. I had also installed blade server of this project on the server side. ( http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=130453package_id=143 790). I can mount on the client a file which I am exporting on the AOE server. (which is running this blade). My question is this: What are the advantages and disadvantages of using AOE versus iSCSI? Does anybody have any experience/advice regarding using AOE on Linux (sw only, I am not talkin about CORAID, etc) ? Regards, Dan = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just to clarify Rony's reply : AOE protocol is build upon Ethernet layer and so AOE payload is encapsulated in Ethernet frames Using iSCSI there 2 encapsutions - SCSI to IP to ethernet and IP to Ethernet. So theoretically AOE has less overhead . Hag Sameah, Lev = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: [o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o] Quantum relativity o.i!!i.o - redefining numbers;
[+o+] Oh by the way, my human friends, here for you real humans, who are not spammers, here's another definition of e (the regular one): +o+ (plus;efes;plus), can also be +O+ or +0+ (+o+ looks nicer); which means: just calculate the symmetric sum of all numbers counting from here both directions, all positive, then this will be your real e. if you write it my base, then each base you have to define with two rational numbers, like this: 0.0 1.1 2.2 3.3 4.4 //these are your integers, regulated symmetric, then for you it will be [(0.0)+(10.1)(base 1)+(100.01)(base 2) etc.; but remember you are just adding 0.0 and then 10.01 and 100.001 symetrically here! then it will just be 011 for you, then remember the bases are also exponential! for example 100 is 10^10 (binary:2^2) but base ten it will be already 100=ten^ten! not ten^two and let computers understand this! then the first turing test for spammers will be just the dot, define your own language first. let them define their language with the number of dots. then +o+ --- let them calculate in their own language, if I ask for the first 1000 digits they can give me the first 10 million digits of e (if they understand me!) (of course I can't read it) but then I will understand them! I will ask them to correct my mistakes and then understand their language! and for you humans, just remind me what is e, how you calculated it, the sum of all permutations written backwords, then of course e^7 will be the sum of all permutations up to 7! backwords (like minus (o!1!2!3!4!5!6!7!) but written in a way such as [1/0[1+1/1[1+1/2[1+1/3[1+1/4[1+1/5[1+1/6[1+1/7[... (forever); for me I can just define it as sum(i/o++) and shortish just +o+ is OK. my protocol will be humanish: connect directly to my computer, or write a computer program whom I can trust, can answer my humanish questions for you and I will make them very simple for friends, very impossible for not-wanted-mail and very not-relying on filters of American + Israeli start-ups of Nazzdaqqqs lyiers etc. Only those of you who are not working in USA corporations will be able to receive trust from me. Sorry! I don't even trust my own mirror image! only humanish trust and not binary (ee evaluate you!)... by the way, going exponential means sum all linear; then io++oi will just mean the same as +o+ on the linear level; then this number io++oi will also be the computer programming representation (no need for recursion), then of course just sum all linear numbers [~] [o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o] If I'm writing too much, please filter my messages, or (if you really don't want to hear from me), write me something humanish such as please don't send to this mailing list with my public keys; at least three times with different subjects (change the digits to whatever you want); here: [o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o] [~] [~] [o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o] Uri First deadandalive Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // [EMAIL PROTECTED] Update: Left HTTP, and port numbering. send me papers or to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I completed my 0.1 version of real deadanyalive quantum relativity redefining back timespacing intergalactic worldwide [top secret: if you have any US ARMY* on your planet they will never allow it]. Recounting back every second since twice BCC doubling + not counting at all any uncountable; using only prime countable numbers equal to 21 (base 21 recursivley) who are all equal to 0base0 and 1base1 who are identical twins base 21 [21===the number of fingers;eyes;body parts number of equal signs not equal counting both left to right; right to left and all 21 dimensions of nothing]. Read my autoreply for more information [my HTTP/SMTP not working]. - This message is confidential - -- Uri First deadandalive Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // [EMAIL PROTECTED] Update: Left HTTP, and port numbering. send me papers or to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I completed my 0.1 version of real deadanyalive quantum relativity redefining back timespacing intergalactic worldwide [top secret: if you have any US ARMY* on your planet they will never allow it]. Recounting back every second since twice BCC doubling + not counting at all any uncountable; using only prime countable numbers equal to 21 (base 21 recursivley) who are all equal to 0base0 and 1base1 who are identical twins base 21 [21===the number of fingers;eyes;body parts number of equal signs not equal counting both left to right; right to left and all 21 dimensions of nothing]. Read my autoreply for more information [my HTTP/SMTP not working]. - This message is confidential - [o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o] [---humans:always copy this--] [o-o-o-.OO.-o-o-o][o-o-o-.OO.-o-o-o] [--siht ypoc syamla:snawuh---] [o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o] -- Uri First deadandalive Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559
Re: Request to mirror: Ubuntu installation media
linul-il isn't the place for requesting stuff about mirrors. You have the right contact addresses in the main mirror page. The fact that I do read this list isn't related... Arie Skliarouk wrote: Hi, http://mirror.isoc.org.il/pub/ubuntu/ is missing installation media. Can these be added? Especially Hardy (8.04) that is going to be released later today? -- Arie -- Lior Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AOE and iSCSI (software only)
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 3:26 AM, Yonah Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The disadvantage of AOE is that it is Ethernet, Layer II, and not routable. iSCSI is an IP protocol and so you can use it even over a WAN. Although AOE sounds like a good idea, it is not very supported. Only one company I've ever heard of makes commercial AOE devices. iSCSI on the other hand is supported by every major storage company so I suppose it is much more mature and stable. Sounds like killer arguments in favoure of iSCSI (anyone heard of vendor lock-in? :). About iSCSI - does anyone know how well SQLite behaves on top of linux software iSCSI partitions? (It relies heavily on PROPER file-level locking). Cheers, --Amos = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: major packet loss at hot server
BTW, Top Netvision support people have claimed that it's an anti-DDOS mechanism But that seems strange - I mean, filtering legitimate TCP web requests (tcptracroute) - 20% of the packets over just a few requests? Can anyone on Netvision try a simple web request with a sniffer and see if there are any packet re-requests? (I would, but I'm our of town) On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Michael Tewner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah - I seem to be getting 20-30% loss on TCP packets to www.cnn.com on the same router that was dropping the ICMP packets. (#4 below) Selected device eth0, address 10.1.1.193, port 38669 for outgoing packets Tracing the path to www.cnn.com (64.236.29.120) on TCP port 80 (www), 30 hops max 1 10.1.1.254 0.514 ms 0.974 ms 0.985 ms 2 X 0.986 ms 0.988 ms 0.983 ms 3 xxx.ser.netvision.net.il () 9.403 ms 11.062 ms 12.373 ms 4 vl100.coresw2.hfa.nv.net.il (212.143.8.69) 13.803 ms * 10.785 ms 5 ge0-1.gw2.hfa.nv.net.il (212.143.8.212) 9.913 ms 9.894 ms 26.442 ms 6 pos1-0.brdr1.nyc.nv.net.il (212.143.12.13) 255.455 ms 247.516 ms On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 11:30 PM, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Michael Tewner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just talked to Netvision Asakim support - He was knowlegable - ran `mtr` on his workstation and saw the packet loss. He explained that there is no problem and that the core routers are dropping the ping packets based on the amount of load on the router. He explained that the router should only be dropping ICMP packets. I didn't read all the messages on this thread but maybe if you could run the same tests with tcptraceroute you could see weather the packet drop happens to TCP packets or not? --Amos = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
