Re: Debian still generated bad ssh keys

2008-06-02 Thread Amos Shapira
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amos Shapira wrote: The correct package version is libssl0.9.8-4etch3 . That's where the PRNG code resides. $ dpkg -l libssl0.9.8 Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold |

Re: Openmoko Group sale

2008-06-02 Thread michael shiloh
In the interest of full disclosure, I should let you all know that I work for Openmoko. Also, as an Israeli living in the USA I have a strong personal interest in helping Israeli developers get access to Openmoko as much as I can. Doron and I have talked and continue to be in contact and I (and

Re: [OT] Fragmentation in the community

2008-06-02 Thread Meir Kriheli
Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 11:22:19PM +0300, Nadav Har'El wrote: No, a planet aggregates many columns (blogs) into one newspaper. There are still a multitude of information sources - other newspapers - that it doesn't aggregate. It doesn't aggregate mailing lists like this

Re: OT: some thoughts on that open cell phone. :-)

2008-06-02 Thread michael shiloh
On Sun, 1 Jun 2008, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: I just want to toss out some thoughts and see if it inspires anyone: 1. What certification do they have now? FCC Are those certifications accepted in Israel? No, but it does give a ballpark idea of whether the

Re: Openmoko Group sale

2008-06-02 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/6/2 michael shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Shachar has had a long conversation on the Openmoko mailing list regarding the state (and difficulty) of support for bidirectional languages. Hebrew is not the only RTL language, nor is it the most common. If Openmoko intends to be open in the sense

Re: Openmoko Group sale

2008-06-02 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/6/2 michael shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Shachar has had a long conversation on the Openmoko mailing list regarding the state (and difficulty) of support for bidirectional languages. Hebrew is not the only RTL language, nor is it the most common. If Openmoko

Re: Openmoko Group sale

2008-06-02 Thread michael shiloh
On Mon, 2 Jun 2008, Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/6/2 michael shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Shachar has had a long conversation on the Openmoko mailing list regarding the state (and difficulty) of support for bidirectional languages. Hebrew is not the only RTL language, nor is it the most common. If

Re: Openmoko Group sale

2008-06-02 Thread michael shiloh
On Mon, 2 Jun 2008, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/6/2 michael shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Shachar has had a long conversation on the Openmoko mailing list regarding the state (and difficulty) of support for bidirectional languages. Hebrew is not the only RTL language,

Kubuntu Edgy (6.10) missing from archive?!

2008-06-02 Thread Gabor Szabo
I have a machine with Kubuntu Edgy on it and I was trying to install some package but I am getting 404 errors. Looking at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ it seems that all the Edgy files are gone. I know they have stopped supporting it but I don't care about any new package nor even

Re: Openmoko Group sale

2008-06-02 Thread Dotan Cohen
I will ask on the Openmoko list about their current thoughts on Qt support. Tell me, though, what openmoko products are even available at the moment? The Neo 1973 seems to be out of production, and the Freerunner is not yet available. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il

Looking for a recommendation for a book about Embedded LINUX

2008-06-02 Thread Dan Shimshoni
Hello, I am looking for a recommendation for a book about Embedded LINUX for beginners and intermediate level. Except Linux Device Drivers (3rd edition), I found these titles as candidates (and there are more): 1) Essential Linux Device Drivers by Sreekrishnan Venkateswaran

QoS question

2008-06-02 Thread sara fink
Someone knows what type of QoS hot uses? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Openmoko Group sale

2008-06-02 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Dotan Cohen, from the post of Mon, 02 Jun: everyone, then I would expect that support for LTR, RTL, TTB, and other methods of writing should be a core part of the UI, not tacked on later. haven't seen the discussion, but I'd imagine the most sensible reply from OpenMoko would be we

Re: Debian still generated bad ssh keys

2008-06-02 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Amos Shapira, from the post of Mon, 02 Jun: First, stop working with apt-get. Only work with aptitude. That's what I always do - just because aptitude is smart enough to mark automatically installed packages to be removed when no longer required, but also because it indeed gives an

Re: Kubuntu Edgy (6.10) missing from archive?!

2008-06-02 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Gabor Szabo, from the post of Mon, 02 Jun: I have not tried it yet but I have a suspicion that I won't even be able to upgrade as for the upgrade I need a package from Edgy itself. Any ideas? Debian. I'm not kidding. I have swallowed a whole flotilla of frogs in the last few

Re: QoS question

2008-06-02 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting sara fink, from the post of Mon, 02 Jun: Someone knows what type of QoS hot uses? AFAIK they are not doing traffic shaping on the IP traffic itself, but on the DOCSIS channels. -- The best kept secret on earth Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/

Anti-RTL mindset is similar to anti-accessibility mindset (was: Re: Openmoko Group sale)

2008-06-02 Thread Omer Zak
Chiming in the discussion, my 7 agorot (2 cents) are as follows. The mindset of the Openmoko developers seems to me to be anti-accessibility. It stands to reason that they'll turn down requests to provide for accessibility to people with disabilities. The devices are probably inherently

Re: Kubuntu Edgy (6.10) missing from archive?!

2008-06-02 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Ira, Network Manager is going to be the new default networking configuration application accross the board: SuSE (SLES), RHEL 6, Ubuntu, and Mandriva (if I'm not mistaken). Not sure about the next stable version of Debian though.. It still has some issues (here in Fedora 9 when I stick a PCMCIA

[OT] A Cognitive Therapist in the Tel Aviv Area

2008-06-02 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi all! As you may know, I have http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder , and at the moment have an http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypomanic_episode ( no it's not Mania - it's below-Mania - I'm still quite OK.). As a result, I'm looking for a Cognitive-Behavioural Therapist in the Tel Aviv

Re: Openmoko Group sale

2008-06-02 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Ira Abramov wrote: haven't seen the discussion, but I'd imagine the most sensible reply from OpenMoko would be we provide a hardware platform and a basic UI with 3(!) different toolkits. Don't make us pick sides, do your own hacking. No, it was not. It was ETK is better suited to our needs,

Re: Anti-RTL mindset is similar to anti-accessibility mindset

2008-06-02 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Omer Zak wrote: Chiming in the discussion, my 7 agorot (2 cents) are as follows. The mindset of the Openmoko developers seems to me to be anti-accessibility. It stands to reason that they'll turn down requests to provide for accessibility to people with disabilities. The devices are probably

Re: Debian still generated bad ssh keys

2008-06-02 Thread Amos Shapira
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Amos Shapira, from the post of Mon, 02 Jun: First, stop working with apt-get. Only work with aptitude. That's what I always do - just because aptitude is smart enough to mark automatically installed packages to be

Re: Openmoko Group sale

2008-06-02 Thread michael shiloh
On Tue, 3 Jun 2008, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Ira Abramov wrote: haven't seen the discussion, but I'd imagine the most sensible reply from OpenMoko would be we provide a hardware platform and a basic UI with 3(!) different toolkits. Don't make us pick sides, do your own hacking. No, it was