Re: Firefox conformity: fighting from within
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 02:28:36PM +0300, Arie Skliarouk wrote: .. Can members of other health funds comment on website status of theirs health fund? Namely, Meuhedet, Clalit and Maccabi? No problems with maccabi, using Iceweasel. Avraham -- Please avoid sending to this address Excell or Powerpoint attachments. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox conformity: fighting from within
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Avraham Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 02:28:36PM +0300, Arie Skliarouk wrote: .. Can members of other health funds comment on website status of theirs health fund? Namely, Meuhedet, Clalit and Maccabi? No problems with maccabi, using Iceweasel. Avraham Can you get results of exams? or find addresses of doctors? I did not try it myself other people told me it does not work well. Would be happy to know it works, I guess it will be the only health organization in Israel working good with firefox. -- Ori Idan
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Configuring fallback IP address in dhclient.conf
Hi,
I've an appliance (running Debian Etch) that needs to be able to run in an
environment that might or might not have a dhcp server handy.
I've made the following changes to dhclient.conf, and got surprising results:
1. The changes:
timeout 10 ;
lease {
interface eth0;
fixed-address 192.168.0.58;
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
renew 2 2037/1/12 00:00:01;
rebind 2 2037/1/12 00:00:01;
expire 2 2037/1/12 00:00:01;
}
2. The surprise:
# /etc/init.d/networking stop; sleep 5; /etc/init.d/networking start
Deconfiguring network interfaces...There is already a pid file
/var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid with pid 3074
killed old client process, removed PID file
Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.4
Copyright 2004-2006 Internet Systems Consortium.
All rights reserved.
For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
Listening on LPF/eth0/00:90:fb:15:e0:00
Sending on LPF/eth0/00:90:fb:15:e0:00
Sending on Socket/fallback
DHCPRELEASE on eth0 to 192.168.0.111 port 67
done.
Configuring network interfaces...Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.4
Copyright 2004-2006 Internet Systems Consortium.
All rights reserved.
For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
Listening on LPF/eth0/00:90:fb:15:e0:00
Sending on LPF/eth0/00:90:fb:15:e0:00
Sending on Socket/fallback
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4
No DHCPOFFERS received.
Trying recorded lease 192.168.0.58
Usage: ping [-LRUbdfnqrvVaA] [-c count] [-i interval] [-w deadline]
[-p pattern] [-s packetsize] [-t ttl] [-I interface or address]
[-M mtu discovery hint] [-S sndbuf]
[ -T timestamp option ] [ -Q tos ] [hop1 ...] destination
No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
done.
-
Does anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong? Where's the 'ping' command
coming from???
Any other suggestions on how to do this?
Note that when a dhcp server is available, all works fine.
Thanks,
Rony
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Re: Configuring fallback IP address in dhclient.conf
ronys wrote: Listening on LPF/eth0/00:90:fb:15:e0:00 Sending on LPF/eth0/00:90:fb:15:e0:00 Sending on Socket/fallback DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4 No DHCPOFFERS received. Trying recorded lease 192.168.0.58 Usage: ping [-LRUbdfnqrvVaA] [-c count] [-i interval] [-w deadline] [-p pattern] [-s packetsize] [-t ttl] [-I interface or address] [-M mtu discovery hint] [-S sndbuf] [ -T timestamp option ] [ -Q tos ] [hop1 ...] destination No working leases in persistent database - sleeping. done. - Does anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong? Where's the 'ping' command coming from??? Any other suggestions on how to do this? Since having two stations use the same IP address is a very hard situation to debug, as packets will randomly find their way to either of the stations, dhclient does a very sensible thing and before using a stored address in the case no DHCP server answers, it makes an attempt to ping the address it is going to use in an effort to try and detect if someone is already using it. In your case this backfires as it seems the 'ping' command format it is trying to use is somehow not compatible with your 'ping' command. Hope this helps, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 Q: How many NSA agents does it take to replace a lightbulb? A: dSva7DrYiY24yeTItKyyogFXD5gRuoRqPNQ9v6WCLLywZPINlu!
RE: Configuring fallback IP address in dhclient.conf [solved]
Thanks, Gilad. While not quite the problem, it was enough to point me in the
right direction.
For those interested: The ping was called in /sbin/dhclient-script, called by
dhclient as part of the handling of the dhcp response.
The exact invokation is if ping -q -c 1 $first_router; then Obviously,
$first_router wasn't set, resulting in the usage error I saw.
Fix? Added option routers aaa.bb.ccc.ddd to the dhclient.conf lease {}
stanza, so it's now:
lease {
interface eth0;
fixed-address 192.168.0.58;
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
option routers 192.168.0.58;
renew 2 2037/1/12 00:00:01;
rebind 2 2037/1/12 00:00:01;
expire 2 2037/1/12 00:00:01;
}
Cheers,
Rony
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Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:39 PM
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Subject: Re: Configuring fallback IP address in dhclient.conf
ronys wrote:
Listening on LPF/eth0/00:90:fb:15:e0:00
Sending on LPF/eth0/00:90:fb:15:e0:00
Sending on Socket/fallback
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4
No DHCPOFFERS received.
Trying recorded lease 192.168.0.58
Usage: ping [-LRUbdfnqrvVaA] [-c count] [-i interval] [-w deadline]
[-p pattern] [-s packetsize] [-t ttl] [-I interface or address]
[-M mtu discovery hint] [-S sndbuf]
[ -T timestamp option ] [ -Q tos ] [hop1 ...] destination
No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
done.
-
Does anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong? Where's the 'ping' command
coming from???
Any other suggestions on how to do this?
Since having two stations use the same IP address is a very hard situation to
debug, as packets will randomly find their way to either of the stations,
dhclient does a very sensible thing and before using a stored address in the
case no DHCP server answers, it makes an attempt to ping the address it is
going to use in an effort to try and detect if someone is already using it.
In your case this backfires as it seems the 'ping' command format it is trying
to use is somehow not compatible with your 'ping' command.
Hope this helps,
Gilad
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Chief Coffee Drinker
Codefidence Ltd.
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Iglu site down?
I cannot reach http://www.iglu.org.il/ for several days. Even http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com is timing out. Can others confirm/deny these findings from where you are? I am in Nesher, connecting via HOT and BezeqBeinleumi (Actcom zl). -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Re: Iglu site down?
2008/8/4 Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I cannot reach http://www.iglu.org.il/ for several days. Even http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com is timing out. Can others confirm/deny these findings from where you are? I am in Nesher, connecting via HOT and BezeqBeinleumi (Actcom zl). Confirmed from 012/Smile (via ATM) and Bezeqint via HOT. -- Shimi
Re: Iglu site down?
Dotan Cohen wrote: I cannot reach http://www.iglu.org.il/ for several days. Even http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com is timing out. Can others confirm/deny these findings from where you are? I am in Nesher, connecting via HOT and BezeqBeinleumi (Actcom zl). iglu.org.il has been down for about a year now, as part of an attempt to merge the material there into the main Hamakor site. Ideally, we would have with that, but the only person with both knowledge of the old data there and a self proclaimed time to work on it is refusing to do anything unless he: 1. Gets root on the machine AND 2. Restores iglu to its old state, precisely. If you tell me what you were looking for in iglu, I can perhaps direct you to the new location (or make sure the new info is up), and thus we can make everyone's life better :-). If you also have specific links, I can even make sure we have a redirect. Shachar = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Iglu site down?
2008/8/4 Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2. Restores iglu to its old state, precisely. Is there not a backup of the old site, from which this can be done? Not for the sake of our root-wanting friend, but for the sake of TFA? If you tell me what you were looking for in iglu, I can perhaps direct you to the new location (or make sure the new info is up), and thus we can make everyone's life better :-). If you also have specific links, I can even make sure we have a redirect. I want to see which Israeli LUG mailing lists exist. Specifically, the Tel Aviv list seems to have been hosted there. A Sun representative is interested in flying to Israel and giving a lecture on OpenSolaris to a few Israeli LUGs, and asked me to find out which LUGs are interested. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Re: Iglu site down?
On Monday 04 August 2008, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Dotan Cohen wrote: I cannot reach http://www.iglu.org.il/ for several days. Even http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com is timing out. Can others confirm/deny these findings from where you are? I am in Nesher, connecting via HOT and BezeqBeinleumi (Actcom zl). iglu.org.il has been down for about a year now, as part of an attempt to merge the material there into the main Hamakor site. Ideally, we would have with that, but the only person with both knowledge of the old data there and a self proclaimed time to work on it is refusing to do anything unless he: 1. Gets root on the machine AND 2. Restores iglu to its old state, precisely. That would be me. :-) Actually, in a further email, I eventually said that I agreed to do anything you allowed me to do, and nothing more, as long as I can work on it. You didn't reply to this email of mine. ;-) However, I do wish that the old URLs will work again, and believe that we must not break URLs like they were broken for so long now. If you wish to redirect the new URLs to new places - fine - but at least keep a web-server redirecting them. I wish to see www.iglu.org.il which was the only Israeli community site in English be operational again. No, I'm not planning to restore PostNuke, etc. there, but there was also a lot of important data and resources there that are currently offline. The current situation where www.iglu.org.il is not resolved is the worst possible one. So just tell me how I can help and I'll do exactly that. Regards, Shlomi Fish If you tell me what you were looking for in iglu, I can perhaps direct you to the new location (or make sure the new info is up), and thus we can make everyone's life better :-). If you also have specific links, I can even make sure we have a redirect. Shachar = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Interview with Ben Collins-Sussman - http://xrl.us/bjn8s Shlomi, so what are you working on? Working on a new wiki about unit testing fortunes in freecell? -- Ran Eilam = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Iglu site down?
Hi Dotan! On Monday 04 August 2008, Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/8/4 Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2. Restores iglu to its old state, precisely. Is there not a backup of the old site, from which this can be done? Not for the sake of our root-wanting friend, but for the sake of TFA? There is a backup of all the site's data on the tux server. I can use it to restore iglu.org.il from there given the relevant ability. If you tell me what you were looking for in iglu, I can perhaps direct you to the new location (or make sure the new info is up), and thus we can make everyone's life better :-). If you also have specific links, I can even make sure we have a redirect. I want to see which Israeli LUG mailing lists exist. See: http://www.hamakor.org.il/mailing-lists/ Used to be: http://www.iglu.org.il/mailing-lists/ Specifically, the Tel Aviv list seems to have been hosted there. A Sun representative is interested in flying to Israel and giving a lecture on OpenSolaris to a few Israeli LUGs, and asked me to find out which LUGs are interested. There are links to all the LUG sites here: http://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/resources/israel/guide-to-israeli-foss-resources/ Regards, Shlomi Fish - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ What does Zionism mean? - http://xrl.us/bjn8u Shlomi, so what are you working on? Working on a new wiki about unit testing fortunes in freecell? -- Ran Eilam = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Iglu site down?
2008/8/5 Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is there not a backup of the old site, from which this can be done? Not for the sake of our root-wanting friend, but for the sake of TFA? There is a backup of all the site's data on the tux server. I can use it to restore iglu.org.il from there given the relevant ability. Just to clear things up before Shahar steps in: you can do that with a regular account that has ssh write access to /var/www/public-html, no? I want to see which Israeli LUG mailing lists exist. See: http://www.hamakor.org.il/mailing-lists/ How dumb I am, I even have that bookmarked! But instead I went straight to Google and did not even look at my bookmarks... There are links to all the LUG sites here: http://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/resources/israel/guide-to-israeli-foss-resources/ Thanks! There are some resources that look good here. What does Zionism mean? - http://xrl.us/bjn8u I think that was intended for a different audience, perhaps included by mistake. You do realize that this is an _Israeli_ and primarily _Jewish_ forum, no? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Debian Day 2008
According to Debian Project News - August 4th, 2008, the 15th anniversary of the Debian project will be celebrated on Aug. 16, 2008. More details are supposed to be in http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDay2008 but this link did not work for me. Is any Debian Day planned in Israel? --- Omer -- You haven't made an impact on the world before you caused a Debian release to be named after Snufkin. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox conformity: fighting from within
On Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 11:19:34AM +0300, Ori Idan wrote: On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Avraham Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 02:28:36PM +0300, Arie Skliarouk wrote: .. Can members of other health funds comment on website status of theirs health fund? Namely, Meuhedet, Clalit and Maccabi? No problems with maccabi, using Iceweasel. Avraham Can you get results of exams? or find addresses of doctors? I did not try it myself other people told me it does not work well. Would be happy to know it works, I guess it will be the only health organization in Israel working good with firefox. -- Ori Idan Yes on both counts. When asking for doctors, I got an error message, but after clicking OK, the browser showed the relevant questions, and complied gracefully with my request (the list/addresses etc.of all family doctors in Jerusalem). Cheers, Avraham -- Please avoid sending to this address Excell or Powerpoint attachments. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
