sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi, I just read this morning that Richard Stallman will not come to Israel due to pressure from the Palestinians who sponsor his visit. You can read it here: http://www.calcalist.co.il/internet/articles/0,7340,L-3519167,00.html?dcRef=ynet My question: I'm pretty sure that hotel + ticket is not

Re: sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread amichay p. k.
Even if we don't find a company willing to finance the visit we can definitely raise funds for this purpose. By the way, if Israel would pay for the visit I demand that he will not give a talk for the Palestinians. 2011/5/29 Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com Hi, I just read this morning that

Re: sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread David Ronkin
FYI Just googling a bit i found Stallman's pro-palestinian article: http://stallman.org/good-fences.html So his boycott's reason looks like just an excuse... David 2011/5/29 Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com Hi, I just read this morning that Richard Stallman will not come to Israel due to

Re: sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Demanding that he will not talk to the Palestinians? umm, with the political situation today, I hardly belive he will agree to that. I was thinking more of: If we can find a company who's willing to pay the flight tickets, hotel etc, and then let Stallman decide whether he wants to appear at the

Re: sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread Tomer Cohen
This topic is an active topic on discussi...@hamakor.org.il. Can you please keep this discussion there and not create separated thread here so everyone would be able to follow? Thanks. 2011/5/29 Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com Hi, I just read this morning that Richard Stallman will not come to

Re: sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread amichay p. k.
Why do you think everyone shouldn't be able follow? 2011/5/29 Tomer Cohen to...@gmx.net This topic is an active topic on discussi...@hamakor.org.il. Can you please keep this discussion there and not create separated thread here so everyone would be able to follow? Thanks. 2011/5/29 Hetz Ben

Re: sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On May 29, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Demanding that he will not talk to the Palestinians? umm, with the political situation today, I hardly belive he will agree to that. I think that the whole situation is a bad one, and we should just drop it, let him come, let him go, let

Re: sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On May 29, 2011, at 1:54 PM, amichay p. k. wrote: Why do you think everyone shouldn't be able follow? Actually, I think it's the other way around. I am not on the hamakor list, nor do I plan to join, and I expect that since most of the people on this list are more interested in FOSS and

Re: sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, May 29, 2011, geoffrey mendelson wrote about Re: sponsorship?: Actually, I think it's the other way around. I am not on the hamakor list, nor do I plan to join, and I expect that since most of the people on this list are more interested in FOSS and not discussions about FOSS (in

Re: sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread Michael Vasiliev
On 05/29/2011 12:39 PM, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi, I just read this morning that Richard Stallman will not come to Israel due to pressure from the Palestinians who sponsor his visit. You can read it here: http://www.calcalist.co.il/internet/articles/0,7340,L-3519167,00.html?dcRef=ynet I'd

Re: sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On May 29, 2011, at 2:15 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote: You're contradicting yourself: You're saying hamakor-discussions isn't interesting because it's discussions about FOSS rather than FOSS, but now that we have a discussion, which is even less FOSS-specific than usual, you don't think it

Fwd: sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On May 29, 2011, at 2:15 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote: But seriously, many of us (including me) already posted their opinion on this matter in hamakor-discussions, and I for one don't want to repeat myself on a second list. I think we should move this to a SKYPE conference call. I'll even

Re: sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 2:28 PM, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote: On May 29, 2011, at 2:15 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote: You're contradicting yourself: You're saying hamakor-discussions isn't interesting because it's discussions about FOSS rather than FOSS, but now that we

Re: sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Amichay, On Sunday 29 May 2011 12:50:44 amichay p. k. wrote: Even if we don't find a company willing to finance the visit we can definitely raise funds for this purpose. By the way, if Israel would pay for the visit I demand that he will not give a talk for the Palestinians. Shame on

Re: sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread Aviad Mandel
Could anyone please explain why His Majesty's visit to the holy land matters at all? This thread sounds like a bunch of teenager girls who want to touch Justin Bieber. If you want to see him talking, go to Youtube. If you think his visit will convince anyone else than the already convinced, put

Re: sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread Dotan Cohen
2011/5/29 Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com: Hi, I just read this morning that Richard Stallman will not come to Israel due to pressure from the Palestinians who sponsor his visit. You can read it here: http://www.calcalist.co.il/internet/articles/0,7340,L-3519167,00.html?dcRef=ynet My

Re: sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread Dotan Cohen
2011/5/29 David Ronkin dron...@gmail.com: FYI Just googling a bit i found Stallman's pro-palestinian article: http://stallman.org/good-fences.html So his boycott's reason looks like just an excuse... What is he talking about cutting off the water? I see that article is dated 2000, but to

Running a native install of windows xp and a native install of Ubuntu

2011-05-29 Thread David Suna
I have a Windows XP box that I would like to also run Ubuntu on. I have tried running Ubuntu as a guest OS using VirtualBox but I have problems with enabling 3D acceleration in the guest OS (it hangs on login). If I was starting from scratch I could try to run the XP as the guest OS but I

Re: Running a native install of windows xp and a native install of Ubuntu

2011-05-29 Thread amichay p. k.
Here you go: http://itbananas.com/convert-physical-to-virtual-machines/ I think XP will run much faster than ubuntu on VM... 2011/5/29 David Suna da...@davidsconsultants.com I have a Windows XP box that I would like to also run Ubuntu on. I have tried running Ubuntu as a guest OS using

Re: sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread Stan Goodman
On Sunday 29 May 2011 at 18:06:14 (GMT+2) Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com wrote: Demanding that he will not talk to the Palestinians? umm, with the political situation today, I hardly belive he will agree to that. I was thinking more of: If we can find a company who's willing to pay the

Re: sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Aviad Mandel, from the post of Sun, 29 May: Could anyone please explain why His Majesty's visit to the holy land matters at all? This thread sounds like a bunch of teenager girls who want to touch Justin Bieber. Well, on the one hand I share the sentiment. The ideas are more important

Re: sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread Stan Goodman
On Sunday 29 May 2011 at 18:22:30 (GMT+2) David Ronkin dron...@gmail.com wrote: Just googling a bit i found Stallman's pro-palestinian article: http://stallman.org/good-fences.html So his boycott's reason looks like just an excuse... What twisted reasoning! -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on

Linux 3.0

2011-05-29 Thread Ira Abramov
I see no one else mentioned it on the list, so here it is, fresh from the kernel liׁ•t - Linus is considering a switch from 2.6.X to 3.X soon. No technical reason I can see, only that the kernel is going to be entering its third decade of life in July. Your ideas? :)

Re: sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On May 29, 2011, at 6:23 PM, Stan Goodman wrote: What twisted reasoning! Not really, if you go back to his writings, he's been anti-Israel and pro-Palestinain since the days of Ariel Sharon. If you google him, you find that he espouses those views even now. Unfortunately he has gone

Re: Linux 3.0

2011-05-29 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On May 29, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Ira Abramov wrote: I see no one else mentioned it on the list, so here it is, fresh from the kernel liׁ•t - Linus is considering a switch from 2.6.X to 3.X soon. No technical reason I can see, only that the kernel is going to be entering its third decade of life

Re: sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread Ely Levy
oh, no! so tor was a terrorist plot after all??? Ely On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:43 PM, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote: On May 29, 2011, at 6:23 PM, Stan Goodman wrote: What twisted reasoning! Not really, if you go back to his writings, he's been anti-Israel and

Re: Linux 3.0

2011-05-29 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 06:46:50PM +0300, geoffrey mendelson wrote: On May 29, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Ira Abramov wrote: I see no one else mentioned it on the list, so here it is, fresh from the kernel liׁ•t - Linus is considering a switch from 2.6.X to 3.X soon. No technical reason I can see,

Re: sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:43 PM, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote: if you go back to his writings, he's been anti-Israel and pro-Palestinain since the days of Ariel Sharon. If you google him, you find that he espouses those views even now. On the HaMakor list someone

Re: sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On May 29, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Gabor Szabo wrote: I am sure you will now reply with a lits of links to his posts, otherwise people might think you are just making empty accusations. Nope. You can't use google, it's not my problem. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM Making your

Re: sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread Omer Zak
On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 12:50 +0300, amichay p. k. wrote: Even if we don't find a company willing to finance the visit we can definitely raise funds for this purpose. By the way, if Israel would pay for the visit I demand that he will not give a talk for the Palestinians. NO WAY! WE SHALL

Re: sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread Stan Goodman
On Sunday 29 May 2011 at 20:44:24 (GMT+2) Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:43 PM, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote: if you go back to his writings, he's been anti-Israel and pro-Palestinain since the days of Ariel Sharon. If you google

Re: Linux 3.0

2011-05-29 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, May 29, 2011, geoffrey mendelson wrote about Re: Linux 3.0: Good time to switch to BSD? It's GNU free :-) I know you said this as a joke, but to rain on your parade, BSD is not GNU- free. As far as I know *BSD distributions typically use quite a number of GNU packages, such as gcc,

Re: sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread Ira Abramov
Yup, you found a few items that refer to Israel and Israel policies. not one of them goes against the right of Israel to exist, says the palestinians are perfect and Israelis are evil, nothing of the sort. all he writes there are criticisms about Israeli policies and actions, the same criticisms

Re: sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, May 29, 2011, geoffrey mendelson wrote about Re: sponsorship?: IMHO this is going to get ugly, people are going to ask questions that were irrelevant or nonexistant such as how much money does the FSF get from terror organizations?, should RMS be allowed in Israel, I think

Re: sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Stan Goodman, from the post of Sun, 29 May: Please enlighten me: When he says that the reason Israel doesn't fortify the border with the PA, but instead puts up a fence (the one that the PA calls 'Die WLL) specifically to separate Palestinians from their lands, that is not

Re: Linux 3.0

2011-05-29 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On May 29, 2011, at 9:23 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote: I know you said this as a joke, but to rain on your parade, BSD is not GNU- free. As far as I know *BSD distributions typically use quite a number of GNU packages, such as gcc, groff, bc, and probably a bunch of others. They also include,

Re: Linux 3.0

2011-05-29 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
Hi, On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:16:49PM +0300, geoffrey mendelson wrote: On May 29, 2011, at 9:23 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote: I know you said this as a joke, but to rain on your parade, BSD is not GNU- free. As far as I know *BSD distributions typically use quite a number of GNU packages,

[Job] Open Office programmer

2011-05-29 Thread Lior Kaplan
Hi, I got a question about hiring an openoffice programmer. The job is in Petah Tikva. Requirements: 1. Programming experience with oo.org API. 2. Familiar with the linux environment (working in and programming for) Please reply to me and Limor (CCed). Kaplan p.s. Full disclosure - I'm not

Re: Linux 3.0

2011-05-29 Thread guy keren
On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 18:29 +0300, Ira Abramov wrote: I see no one else mentioned it on the list, so here it is, fresh from the kernel liׁ•t - Linus is considering a switch from 2.6.X to 3.X soon. No technical reason I can see, only that the kernel is going to be entering its third decade of

Re: Linux 3.0

2011-05-29 Thread guy keren
why do you think you are not both right? each of you had different uses for Linux, different needs, and different experiences. the same can be said for other operating systems too. personally, i have been using Linux as my home desktop OS since October 1993. were there problems? yes, there

Re: Linux 3.0

2011-05-29 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, May 29, 2011, geoffrey mendelson wrote about Re: Linux 3.0: As for your using Linux for 18 years, that would put you starting in 1993. That surprises me because I have been using Linux since mid 1995 and in those days it was not much more than a curiosity, and not something that

Re: Linux 3.0

2011-05-29 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On May 29, 2011, at 11:24 PM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: That's old news. That switch was over 5 years ago. Since then Linux (the kernel) has avoided that long development cycles. It may have been, but it took a long time to finally die. I will say I was dumbstruck when I finally upgraded my

Re: sponsorship?

2011-05-29 Thread Maxim Veksler
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Omer Zak w...@zak.co.il wrote: On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 12:50 +0300, amichay p. k. wrote: Even if we don't find a company willing to finance the visit we can definitely raise funds for this purpose. By the way, if Israel would pay for the visit I demand that he

RMS clarifies, backlash was unneeded

2011-05-29 Thread Ira Abramov
I'm quoting below RMS' reply to Guy Shefer. He sent me a longer reply in person and they both confirm what I thought - he's more interested in fulfilling his original obligation and also use it for promoting collaboration. Moreover, he says the ban imposed on him is NOT Israel in its entirety,