What field is used as a SCREENING number when using SIP.
Hi , with plain old SS7 we send a number and fill a field - how we got the calling number (Screening indicator), but what happen with SIP ? I noticed a few practices how this data is passed (using a hint , P-Asserted-Identity and Remote-Party-ID ) but I'm searching for a common solution rather the checking all options to what should I expect when sending a SIP message from my SER to other networks (peering). what would be a good solution for forwarding a blocked call ? how should i fill the the invite on my ser so I could block / unblock call ? ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: What field is used as a SCREENING number when using SIP.
2011/8/18 Boris shtrasman borissh1...@gmail.com Hi , with plain old SS7 we send a number and fill a field - how we got the calling number (Screening indicator), but what happen with SIP ? I noticed a few practices how this data is passed (using a hint , P-Asserted-Identity and Remote-Party-ID ) but I'm searching for a common solution rather the checking all options to what should I expect when sending a SIP message from my SER to other networks (peering). what would be a good solution for forwarding a blocked call ? how should i fill the the invite on my ser so I could block / unblock call ? As far as I know, there is no single way of doing it. I do not know the whole RFC's of SIP, but in practice it depends on the provider gateway. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il Ido ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: What field is used as a SCREENING number when using SIP.
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 13:17, ik ido...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/8/18 Boris shtrasman borissh1...@gmail.com Hi , with plain old SS7 we send a number and fill a field - how we got the calling number (Screening indicator), but what happen with SIP ? I noticed a few practices how this data is passed (using a hint , P-Asserted-Identity and Remote-Party-ID ) but I'm searching for a common solution rather the checking all options to what should I expect when sending a SIP message from my SER to other networks (peering). what would be a good solution for forwarding a blocked call ? how should i fill the the invite on my ser so I could block / unblock call ? As far as I know, there is no single way of doing it. I do not know the whole RFC's of SIP, but in practice it depends on the provider gateway. So a good practice is to use all the known options ? ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: What field is used as a SCREENING number when using SIP.
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 13:33, Boris shtrasman borissh1...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 13:17, ik ido...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/8/18 Boris shtrasman borissh1...@gmail.com Hi , with plain old SS7 we send a number and fill a field - how we got the calling number (Screening indicator), but what happen with SIP ? I noticed a few practices how this data is passed (using a hint , P-Asserted-Identity and Remote-Party-ID ) but I'm searching for a common solution rather the checking all options to what should I expect when sending a SIP message from my SER to other networks (peering). what would be a good solution for forwarding a blocked call ? how should i fill the the invite on my ser so I could block / unblock call ? As far as I know, there is no single way of doing it. I do not know the whole RFC's of SIP, but in practice it depends on the provider gateway. So a good practice is to use all the known options ? And hope for the best. Some does not send the phone number at all. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
How do I install linux on a raid0?
I just got a new w520 with two 500GB hard drives configured in raid0 (seems to be a bios based software raid0). Windows is already installed and running on it (and I need it to stay there unfortunately) and I'm trying to install linux along side it (debian unstable). I got the installed running and it installed fine as it seems (although it looks like it messed up the partition table a bit as now I also have sda1 and sda2 that weren't there to begin with I think), but I can't get grub to install and rescue mode also won't boot into linux no matter what drive I choose as root. I did manage to mount the partition from /dev/matter/...05 and everything is installed on it, but again, no grub. Any ideas on how to get linux up and running (I need to boot into it somehow). I tried debian unstable installed from usb and debian live installed from usb, but neither goes past the grub step. I also tried following some instructions I found on the net saying to add dmraid=true to the command line during install and then again when grub fails when booting into recovery but no /dev/dm and no mounting the linux partition at that point so I can't continue. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: How do I install linux on a raid0?
Micha Hi, From the little experience I had with this, I recall reading that these 'RAID controllers' on consumer level motherboards, aren't especially advised for use with linux. I don't know about Debian in this case, but here are the instructions for Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto Personally I ended up using mdadm, but I didn't have the constriction of having to dual boot Windows as well. Have fun, Tom On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Micha Feigin mi...@post.tau.ac.il wrote: I just got a new w520 with two 500GB hard drives configured in raid0 (seems to be a bios based software raid0). Windows is already installed and running on it (and I need it to stay there unfortunately) and I'm trying to install linux along side it (debian unstable). I got the installed running and it installed fine as it seems (although it looks like it messed up the partition table a bit as now I also have sda1 and sda2 that weren't there to begin with I think), but I can't get grub to install and rescue mode also won't boot into linux no matter what drive I choose as root. I did manage to mount the partition from /dev/matter/...05 and everything is installed on it, but again, no grub. Any ideas on how to get linux up and running (I need to boot into it somehow). I tried debian unstable installed from usb and debian live installed from usb, but neither goes past the grub step. I also tried following some instructions I found on the net saying to add dmraid=true to the command line during install and then again when grub fails when booting into recovery but no /dev/dm and no mounting the linux partition at that point so I can't continue. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks __**_ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/**mailman/listinfo/linux-ilhttp://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: How do I install linux on a raid0?
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Micha Feigin mi...@post.tau.ac.il wrote: I just got a new w520 with two 500GB hard drives configured in raid0 (seems to be a bios based software raid0). I am a bit confused. If the RAID is BIOS-based then it sounds to me like it is HW RAID. In this case it should be transparent to Linux, grub, even DOS, shouldn't it? Is it some sort of fake RAID that is not a true HW RAID? In that case you may be out of luck or it may still work after some incantations and contortions. Windows is already installed and running on it (and I need it to stay there unfortunately) and I'm trying to install linux along side it (debian unstable). Are you trying to install Linux on the RAID itself or on another disk and use the RAID under it? Or on the RAID itself? It sounds like the latter, but I am not sure. Some details on your partition layout would help. I got the installed running and it installed fine I am not familiar with debian installation, but what did it show as the partition table during install? Did you modify it in any way? What does the partition table look like now? as it seems (although it looks like it messed up the partition table a bit as now I also have sda1 and sda2 that weren't there to begin with I think), but I can't get grub to install What exactly did you do and what didn't work? and rescue mode also won't boot into linux no matter what drive I choose as root. I did manage to mount the partition from /dev/matter/...05 and everything is installed on it, but again, no grub. Any ideas on how to get linux up and running (I need to boot into it somehow). My first guess is that you need to edit grub's device map as appropriate for your setup. However, this is a wild guess. It would help if you posted fdisk -l, mount table, details of your grub configuration, things that you have tried and the corresponding outputs... -- Oleg Goldshmidt | p...@goldshmidt.org o...@goldshmidt.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: How do I install linux on a raid0?
From what I've read up on, it seems like most non-server bioses do some sort of fake raid, where the raid is controlled from the bios but is actually a software raid (at least partially). Windows which came installed on the machine sees it (or reports it) as one disk (although it does call it oemraid). Linux seems a bit more confused. When I started it with dmraid=true, it sees it both as a strip drive (raid 0) and it seems that somewhat also as multiple disks. I have both /dev/sda and /dev/sdb and /dev/mapper/{really long name}. I can partition the drives and install the system to it, but then grub (grub2 actually) chokes. I can't mount the system properly under /target, calling grub-probe directly recognizes the partition as ext2 (although it is ext4) but calling grub-install says that grub-probe chokes. The system has 2 500gb disks in raid0 (strip) setup. The partition setup: #1 (primary) is windows 7 boot partition (1.17GB) #2 (primary) Windows 7 (600GB) free space for linux (will probably need to be logical) #3 (primary) lenovo recovery (15.6 GB) On 18-Aug-11 17:39, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Micha Feigin mi...@post.tau.ac.il mailto:mi...@post.tau.ac.il wrote: I just got a new w520 with two 500GB hard drives configured in raid0 (seems to be a bios based software raid0). I am a bit confused. If the RAID is BIOS-based then it sounds to me like it is HW RAID. In this case it should be transparent to Linux, grub, even DOS, shouldn't it? Is it some sort of fake RAID that is not a true HW RAID? In that case you may be out of luck or it may still work after some incantations and contortions. Windows is already installed and running on it (and I need it to stay there unfortunately) and I'm trying to install linux along side it (debian unstable). Are you trying to install Linux on the RAID itself or on another disk and use the RAID under it? Or on the RAID itself? It sounds like the latter, but I am not sure. Some details on your partition layout would help. I got the installed running and it installed fine I am not familiar with debian installation, but what did it show as the partition table during install? Did you modify it in any way? What does the partition table look like now? as it seems (although it looks like it messed up the partition table a bit as now I also have sda1 and sda2 that weren't there to begin with I think), but I can't get grub to install What exactly did you do and what didn't work? and rescue mode also won't boot into linux no matter what drive I choose as root. I did manage to mount the partition from /dev/matter/...05 and everything is installed on it, but again, no grub. Any ideas on how to get linux up and running (I need to boot into it somehow). My first guess is that you need to edit grub's device map as appropriate for your setup. However, this is a wild guess. It would help if you posted fdisk -l, mount table, details of your grub configuration, things that you have tried and the corresponding outputs... -- Oleg Goldshmidt | p...@goldshmidt.org mailto:o...@goldshmidt.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Thunderbird mailer
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 18:12, Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz wrote: I didn't assume anything, all the facts that I mention are referred to here (your site): http://www.lingnu.com/en/howto/78-si1452.html As for the actual criticism, when you've shown that you understood WHY the decisions were taken (documented in my blog), then you can make constructive suggestions how to make it better. Until then, you are just a joker who throws stones from afar. Fair enough. I do appreciate your team's efforts, even if I don't agree with the outcome. Your previous post explaining why RLM and LRM were not included was very clear, I understand what you said. You feel that those two characters affect the paragraph violently. I find that to be an unsatisfactory explanation for not including them, in fact I find that to be a satisfactory reason davka [1] to include them. The character perform their intended effect. The fact that the paragraph is so mungled without them that the change is violent when the paragraph is aligned properly demonstrates just how bad the characters are needed. I could say that the paragraph is violently aligned without them. For the record, Shai Berger also did not like some of the decisions. He asked to be attend personally, got his wish, made his case, got focused responses, and was satisfied that it couldn't have been done better. Where can I read the explanations? Would you mind CCing Shai with my contact info? Thanks. It is possible that things could be done better, but uninformed criticism like yours shows little more than ignorance, and does little to get us there (assuming it's possible). I'm interested in being a productive participant. If I should make a good case for including the RLM and LRM, incluuding the places to plut them on the keyboard, to whom should I address it? Thanks. [1] How to say דוקא in English? -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Thunderbird mailer
On Thursday 18 August 2011 21:06:40 Dotan Cohen wrote: [1] How to say דווקא in English? The word is obviously related to e,g, דייק, and that's the clue. How to translate it depends on the sentence, but I usually find that it fits with precisely, or specifically, or something similar. This doesn't work with a sentence like למה אתה מתנהג כל כך דווקא, only because that's folk syntax, and the meaning has drifted. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Thunderbird mailer
On 08/18/2011 09:06 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 18:12, Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz wrote: I didn't assume anything, all the facts that I mention are referred to here (your site): http://www.lingnu.com/en/howto/78-si1452.html As for the actual criticism, when you've shown that you understood WHY the decisions were taken (documented in my blog), then you can make constructive suggestions how to make it better. Until then, you are just a joker who throws stones from afar. Fair enough. I do appreciate your team's efforts, even if I don't agree with the outcome. Your previous post explaining why RLM and LRM were not included was very clear, Was it? They are right there, AltGr+9 and AltGr+0. It's the other ones, RLE, LRE, RLO, LRO and PDF that were not included. Where can I read the explanations? Would you mind CCing Shai with my contact info? Thanks. BCCed. The explanation is in my blog, too. Read the comments on the posts at http://blog.shemesh.biz/?s=1452 I'm interested in being a productive participant. If I should make a good case for including the RLM and LRM, incluuding the places to plut them on the keyboard, to whom should I address it? No one. They are, already, included. If, however, you have criticism about something not in the proposed standard (or something that you feel should not be in the standard and is), my blog is the best place. If you feel you disagree with me about my answers, I believe we will be able to arrange for an invite to the next meeting as well. In any case, as soon as the standard's text is finalized and gone past editing, it will be published for community review (the official part). At that point you will be able to file objections and comments formally. Like I said before, I intend to try and change the "no touching level 2" decision myself at that point. [1] How to say דוקא in English? The word "spite" comes to mind, despite not meaning exactly the same thing in the context you were using it. Morphix (http://morfix.mako.co.il/default.aspx?q=%D7%93%D7%95%D7%95%D7%A7%D7%90source=milon) has no better suggestions (or, for that matter, any relevant suggestions at all). Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd. http://www.lingnu.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
[OFFTOPIC] The word 'davka' is complicated to translate (was: Re: Thunderbird mailer)
There is a special blog article devoted to this subject: http://elephant.org.il/translate/davka.html --- Omer On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 21:38 +0300, Stan Goodman wrote: On Thursday 18 August 2011 21:06:40 Dotan Cohen wrote: [1] How to say דווקא in English? The word is obviously related to e,g, דייק, and that's the clue. How to translate it depends on the sentence, but I usually find that it fits with precisely, or specifically, or something similar. This doesn't work with a sentence like למה אתה מתנהג כל כך דווקא, only because that's folk syntax, and the meaning has drifted. -- If verbal consent is not obtained in triplicate, it is date rape. Asking permission constitutes harassment. My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.htmlDelay is the deadliest form of denial.C. Northcote Parkinson My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
checking wireless cable
Hi, I have a weird - and rather embarrassing - problem after returning home from a trip. My laptop's wireless card can't connect to the wireless router (D-Link DIR-615) anymore. I am fairly certain that no configuration has changed. Fedora 14 on an X200 ThinkPad with Intel iwl5100AGN card. Firmware installed, kernel 2.6.35.13-91.fc14.x86_64, # lsmod | grep iwlagn iwlagn209445 0 iwlcore 195698 1 iwlagn mac80211 229063 2 iwlagn,iwlcore cfg80211 134981 3 iwlagn,iwlcore,mac80211 (tried to reload iwlagn multiple times). Restarting the network yields: Bringing up interface wlan0: Determining IP information for wlan0... failed; no link present. Check cable? (a fun message IMHO). In /var/log/messages I see kernel: [ 2355.907603] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready Things I've tried (beyond fruitless googling, of course - no forums have useful info of any kind): 1. disabling wireless security 2. making sure the device is not under NetworkManager control (switched on and off, uninstalled NM and reinstalled again) - NM is not to blame 3. restarting everything multiple times (and checking BIOS settings) 4. making sure another wireless device (phone) connects to the same router without a problem 5. making sure that wpa_supplicant does not run 6. Ethernet works fine so it is not a general networking issue 7. tried connecting with WiFiRadar, wlassistant - to no avail None of the above makes any difference. Has anyone encountered anything similar? Any suggestions for things I should try? For completeness here is ifcfg-wlan0 (asterisks mask irrelevant identifying info): TYPE=Wireless DEVICE=wlan0 BOOTPROTO=dhcp ONBOOT=yes USERCTL=yes IPV6INIT=no NM_CONTROLLED=no MODE=Managed RATE=auto HWADDR=**:**:**:**:**:** KEY_MGMT=WPA-PSK DEFROUTE=yes PEERDNS=yes PEERROUTES=yes DHCP_HOSTNAME=** IPV4_FAILURE_FATAL=yes NAME=wlan0 ESSID= CHANNEL= I played with NM_CONTROLLED, KEY_MGMT (disabled security), and ESSID (setting to specific value). Thanks, -- Oleg Goldshmidt | p...@goldshmidt.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: checking wireless cable
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:02:14PM +0300, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Has anyone encountered anything similar? Any suggestions for things I should try? What is the output of 'iwconfig' and of 'iwlist scanning', both as root? I have a feeling it won't say much, but just in case. -- Didi ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [OFFTOPIC] The word 'davka' is complicated to translate (was: Re: Thunderbird mailer)
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 22:08, Omer Zak w...@zak.co.il wrote: There is a special blog article devoted to this subject: http://elephant.org.il/translate/davka.html --- Omer Nice, thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Thunderbird mailer
Shachar, your mailing in mungling quoted replies. The past three levels of quotes all came out as single gr's. I fixed them manually below to preserve context. On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 21:57, Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz wrote: Your previous post explaining why RLM and LRM were not included was very clear, Was it? They are right there, AltGr+9 and AltGr+0. It's the other ones, RLE, LRE, RLO, LRO and PDF that were not included. I did mean RLE and LRE, sorry. Had RLM or LRM been left out you would have found me on your doorstep! Where can I read the explanations? Would you mind CCing Shai with my contact info? Thanks. BCCed. The explanation is in my blog, too. Read the comments on the posts at http://blog.shemesh.biz/?s=1452 Thank you Shachar. This is the direction things should have been going from the beginning, I apologize that my -gisha- (approach?) was poorly constructed. I'm interested in being a productive participant. If I should make a good case for including the RLM and LRM, incluuding the places to plut them on the keyboard, to whom should I address it? No one. They are, already, included. If, however, you have criticism about something not in the proposed standard (or something that you feel should not be in the standard and is), my blog is the best place. If you feel you disagree with me about my answers, I believe we will be able to arrange for an invite to the next meeting as well. In any case, as soon as the standard's text is finalized and gone past editing, it will be published for community review (the official part). At that point you will be able to file objections and comments formally. Like I said before, I intend to try and change the no touching level 2 decision myself at that point. Thank you. Your engagement of the community is vitally important and well appreciated. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Thunderbird mailer
On 08/18/2011 10:53 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: Shachar, your mailing in mungling quoted replies. The past three levels of quotes all came out as single gr's. I fixed them manually below to preserve context. for some reason, latest thunderbirds (hurrah, we came back on topic!) refuses to default to both plain text and HTML format. My options for default are either HTML only or text only. Since there is no way to embed paragraph direction (and other changes) in text only, I go for HTML only and hope to remember to change to HTML+text for all outgoing emails. Sorry about that. If anyone here knows how to change this, please let me know. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd. http://www.lingnu.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [OFFTOPIC] The word 'davka' is complicated to translate (was: Re: Thunderbird mailer)
On Thursday 18 August 2011 22:08:29 Omer Zak wrote: There is a special blog article devoted to this subject: http://elephant.org.il/translate/davka.html It's not harder to translate than any other word. It's only necessary to think what one wants to say, which not everyone does. As I said earlier, the word had become overlaid with extraneous meanings, which means only that there is an enlarged set of possible meanings for you to pick. Spite, for example, simply doesn't have any connection with the root of the word. It's an addon. Another word with a similar mystique is Nu, in Yiddish. Any number of people will tell you that it is untranslatable, although it is a simple Russian word for which one can plug in Well in English: A: Well?Nu? B: Eh, we-e-ell.Eh, nu-u-u-u. A: WELL!!! NU!!! -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: checking wireless cable
Yedidyah Bar-David linux...@didi.bardavid.org writes: On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:02:14PM +0300, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Has anyone encountered anything similar? Any suggestions for things I should try? What is the output of 'iwconfig' and of 'iwlist scanning', both as root? I have a feeling it won't say much, but just in case. # iwconfig wlan0 wlan0 IEEE 802.11abgn ESSID:off/any Mode:Managed Frequency:2.417 GHz Access Point: Not-Associated Tx-Power=15 dBm Retry long limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Power Management:off In the following the important part is related to ESSID=oleggw (my router): # iwconfig scanning # non-wireless output/errors omitted wlan0 Scan completed : Cell 01 - Address: 00:21:04:D2:EF:22 Channel:1 Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) Quality=51/70 Signal level=-59 dBm Encryption key:on ESSID:orange-6PSR Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s 9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s Bit Rates:24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s Mode:Master Extra:tsf=000c7003f722 Extra: Last beacon: 3232ms ago IE: Unknown: 000B6F72616E67652D36505352 IE: Unknown: 010882848B968C129824 IE: Unknown: 030101 IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1 Group Cipher : TKIP Pairwise Ciphers (2) : CCMP TKIP Authentication Suites (1) : PSK IE: WPA Version 1 Group Cipher : TKIP Pairwise Ciphers (2) : CCMP TKIP Authentication Suites (1) : PSK IE: Unknown: 2A0100 IE: Unknown: 3204B048606C IE: Unknown: DD180050F2020101830003A427A442435E0062322F00 IE: Unknown: DD0900037F01010020FF7F IE: Unknown: DD0A00037F040100 IE: Unknown: DDB00050F204104A000110104400010210570001001041000100103B00010310470010565AA94967C14C0EAA8FF349E6F593111021001B4A756E676F20536F66747761726520546563686E6F6C6F676965731023001C4F72616E676520475720506F72746120322E3020506C6174666F726D1024000B6F72616E676567772D70321042000C3030323130343031353438371054000800060050F2040001101100064F70656E5247100800020084103C000101 Cell 02 - Address: 00:18:E7:E8:4A:4B Channel:2 Frequency:2.417 GHz (Channel 2) Quality=70/70 Signal level=-22 dBm Encryption key:on ESSID:oleggw Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s 9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s Bit Rates:24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s Mode:Master Extra:tsf=0207805f Extra: Last beacon: 3228ms ago IE: Unknown: 00066F6C65676777 IE: Unknown: 010882848B960C121824 IE: Unknown: 030102 IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1 Group Cipher : TKIP Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP Authentication Suites (1) : PSK IE: WPA Version 1 Group Cipher : TKIP Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP Authentication Suites (1) : PSK IE: Unknown: 2A0100 IE: Unknown: 32043048606C IE: Unknown: DD180050F2020101010003A427A442435E0062322F00 IE: Unknown: DD1E00904C334C101B00 IE: Unknown: 2D1A4C101B00 IE: Unknown: DD1A00904C3402001B00 IE: Unknown: 3D1602001B00 IE: Unknown: DD0900037F0101FF7F IE: Unknown: DD0A00037F0401000400 IE: Unknown: DD7B0050F204104A00011010440001021041000100103B00010310470010565AA94967C14C0EAA8FF349E6F5931110210006442D4C696E6B1023000D442D4C696E6B20526F75746572102400074449522D363135104200046E6F6E651054000800060050F204000110110006442D4C696E6B100800020084103C000101 Cell 03 - Address: 00:21:04:89:81:12 Channel:6 Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6) Quality=42/70 Signal level=-68 dBm Encryption key:on ESSID:swl-u Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s
Re: checking wireless cable
On Aug 19, 2011, at 12:21 AM, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: What is the output of 'iwconfig' and of 'iwlist scanning', both as root? I have a feeling it won't say much, but just in case. My guess is that you changed the region/country/jusridiction to one where channel 2 is not legal. Where you just in the new world? Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Thunderbird mailer
2011/8/18 Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz: Since there is no way to embed paragraph direction (and other changes) in text only, Yes there is, just put this non-printing character at the beginning of your RTL emails: - - -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Thunderbird mailer
On 08/19/2011 12:52 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: 2011/8/18 Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz: Since there is no way to embed paragraph direction (and other changes) in text only, Yes there is, just put this non-printing character at the beginning of your RTL emails: - - Doesn't do the same thing, neither practically nor theoretically (though, for different reasons). Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd. http://www.lingnu.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Thunderbird mailer
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 08:04, Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz wrote: On 08/19/2011 12:52 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: 2011/8/18 Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz: Since there is no way to embed paragraph direction (and other changes) in text only, Yes there is, just put this non-printing character at the beginning of your RTL emails: - - Doesn't do the same thing, neither practically nor theoretically (though, for different reasons). Shachar Really? Was is the effect of embedding paragraph direction in HTML? What is the effect of the character that I posted? How do they differ? This is an important question, my argument regarding the inclusion of some non-printing characters hinges on their usefulness. I find this one to be essential. I need to know how it is not working for you, or how its behaviour is different from what you expect. Thanks. I think that this comment is the breakthrough that we need. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Thunderbird mailer
On 08/19/2011 08:13 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: Really? Was is the effect of embedding paragraph direction in HTML? What is the effect of the character that I posted? How do they differ? On the theoretical level, an RLE at the beginning of the paragraph means to embed an RTL run inside the paragraph. This means that you have a basically LTR paragraph with the actual text inside an RTL run. This goes to paragraph alignment - an LTR paragraph should be left aligned. You could claim that the paragraph auto-detection will do the rest, but if that were true, you could put an RLM instead of an RLE at the beginning of the paragraph. There is also an hypothetical case that of unbalanced PDFs reverting the effect, but I'm only bringing it up as a side note, as I agree that for all practical purposes, this is irrelevant. On the practical level, many implementations (Windows' edit control included) do line breaks and only then BiDi. As a result, all state is lost at the end of the line, and the RLE only covers the first line of the paragraph. Since most mailers (thunderbird included) do explicit line breaking in text mode, this is not even necessarily a violation of the standard, as RLEs should be forgotten at the paragraph end character (a fact you rely on when you put an RLE at the beginning, but not a PDF at the end). Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd. http://www.lingnu.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il