which filesystem

2012-08-11 Thread Erez D
hello

i have and external USB hard-drive size 2TB, mounted as ext4. (ubuntu 10.10
amd64)
every time there is a power failure. i need to do a manual fsck on this
disk. and this takes around an hour ...


i am looking to replace the ext4 file system with something better:
1. stable
2. more resilient to power failures
3. short fsck time
4, supported out of the box (i may want to mount this external disk on
other computers with other linux distros e.g. centos).


what can you recommend ?


thanks,
erez.
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Re: which filesystem

2012-08-11 Thread Marc Volovic
IMHO - xfs

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So topes font cont

On Aug 11, 2012, at 14:42, Erez D erez0...@gmail.com wrote:

 hello

 i have and external USB hard-drive size 2TB, mounted as ext4. (ubuntu 10.10 
 amd64)
 every time there is a power failure. i need to do a manual fsck on this disk. 
 and this takes around an hour ...


 i am looking to replace the ext4 file system with something better:
 1. stable
 2. more resilient to power failures
 3. short fsck time
 4, supported out of the box (i may want to mount this external disk on other 
 computers with other linux distros e.g. centos).


 what can you recommend ?


 thanks,
 erez.
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Re: which filesystem

2012-08-11 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Erez D erez0...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello

 i have and external USB hard-drive size 2TB, mounted as ext4. (ubuntu 10.10
 amd64)
 every time there is a power failure. i need to do a manual fsck on this
 disk. and this takes around an hour ...


 i am looking to replace the ext4 file system with something better:
 1. stable
 2. more resilient to power failures
 3. short fsck time
 4, supported out of the box (i may want to mount this external disk on other
 computers with other linux distros e.g. centos).


 what can you recommend ?


 thanks,
 erez.


That's odd.
At work I've got a number of Fedora 17 machines w/ ext4, (with our w/o
software RAID) and a *very* flaky power network.
As a result, from time to time one of our el-cheapo UPS' dies and the
machines forcefully powers down.
Thus far, I've only seen ext4 goes into full fsck once or twice.

... Have you checked the drive's ext4 settings? Maybe Ubuntu installer
was too paranoid?

- Gilboa

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Re: which filesystem

2012-08-11 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012, Erez D wrote about which filesystem:
 hello
 
 i have and external USB hard-drive size 2TB, mounted as ext4. (ubuntu 10.10
 amd64)
 every time there is a power failure. i need to do a manual fsck on this
 disk. and this takes around an hour ...

I have a 2 TB disk with ext3, and I don't have anything close to the 1 hour
boots you report (even one minute looks excessive).

Both ext3 and ext4 are journalling filesystems, meaning that after power
failures, only a relatively small journal of the last modifications
needs to be replayed, rather than going through the entire disk.

Is it possible your filesystem for some reason has journalling disabled,
or improperly configured? Try tune2fs -l on your filesystem and look
for suspicious parameters. Look at Filesystem features and verify
there is has_journal. See that it doesn't force a full fsck every time
(Maximum mount count can very well be -1 and check interval 0). 


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Re: which filesystem

2012-08-11 Thread Diego Iastrubni
On שבת 11 אוגוסט 2012 14:59:29 Marc Volovic wrote:
 IMHO - xfs
 
 Sent from my iPhone


I am sorry. I cannot take you seriously when I read those two sentences 
together. 

Please read chapters 3, 5 and 8 of the vim manual as atonement. Here are the 
links, don't even waste time looking for them:

http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/htmldoc/usr_03.html
http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/htmldoc/usr_05.html
http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/htmldoc/usr_08.html

;-)

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Re: mobile service providers updates

2012-08-11 Thread Diego Iastrubni
On יום שלישי 07 אוגוסט 2012 18:23:26 Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

 Thanks for all the fixes,
 
 On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 12:06:08PM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
  Hi
  
  I figured I'd submit an update to the service providers database[1].
  
  From a quick search (using e.g. [2] and [3]) I got the following. Any
  
  comments and fixes before I submit it?


I have seen that cyanogenmod also has a similar list.  Do you think they are 
separated - or cyanogenmod are pulling data from freedesktop?  I think that 
cyanogenmod's list will be more correct, or at least tested.

(I had a link to it a few days ago, if anyone can give me the git URL I will 
be happier) 

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Re: which filesystem

2012-08-11 Thread Michael Shiloh



On 08/11/2012 12:28 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote:

On Sat, Aug 11, 2012, Erez D wrote about which filesystem:

hello

i have and external USB hard-drive size 2TB, mounted as ext4. (ubuntu 10.10
amd64)
every time there is a power failure. i need to do a manual fsck on this
disk. and this takes around an hour ...


I have a 2 TB disk with ext3, and I don't have anything close to the 1 hour
boots you report (even one minute looks excessive).

Both ext3 and ext4 are journalling filesystems, meaning that after power
failures, only a relatively small journal of the last modifications
needs to be replayed, rather than going through the entire disk.

Is it possible your filesystem for some reason has journalling disabled,
or improperly configured? Try tune2fs -l on your filesystem and look
for suspicious parameters. Look at Filesystem features and verify
there is has_journal. See that it doesn't force a full fsck every time
(Maximum mount count can very well be -1 and check interval 0).




Might also be the disk going bad - perhaps check with the S.M.A.R.T. 
utility smartmontools


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