Re: when linux was linux
Hi Erez,
The problem is the desktop concept - a bunch of applications that
work very hard try to guess what you will do next and tell you what you
want.
If you just run X with a window manager then you wont have this problem.
But before you blame the distros, think about how we got here. We wanted
Linux to be an alternative to MS Windows, so we made it (at least in the
major distro manifestations) more like MS Windows, and this has been
relatively successful. The downside is that it really is more like MS
Windows.
Tsom kal,
- yba
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013, Erez D wrote:
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 08:28:51 +0300
From: Erez D erez0...@gmail.com
To: linux-il linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
Subject: when linux was linux
i used to think that linux is a system that countrary to windows, can run
multiple users with no problems
then came the modern desktops
ones that scans your disk so you could find what you want in an instant
or do other 'windows-like' things
so we found ourselves with 6 instances of nautiluis (we have 6 users) eating
all the 4 cpus
after searching the web and failing to solve the problem, i decided to move to
a lighter desktop
so we all switched to xfce4
but now we have 6 xfdesktop processes eating the 4 cpus, with no solution to be
found
oh, when linux was linux and not trying to imitate windows ...
btw: running CentOS 6.3
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Re: when linux was linux
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Erez D erez0...@gmail.com wrote: i used to think that linux is a system that countrary to windows, can run multiple users with no problems then came the modern desktops ones that scans your disk so you could find what you want in an instant or do other 'windows-like' things so we found ourselves with 6 instances of nautiluis (we have 6 users) eating all the 4 cpus after searching the web and failing to solve the problem, i decided to move to a lighter desktop so we all switched to xfce4 but now we have 6 xfdesktop processes eating the 4 cpus, with no solution to be found oh, when linux was linux and not trying to imitate windows ... btw: running CentOS 6.3 Very weird. I've got a 3 year old Quad core AMD Phenom Fedora 19 machine running 3 instances of XFCE 4.10, and the CPU usage is rather slim. (Just checked, with two semi idle sessions we have 2% CPU usage). I've another 6 year old Fedora 19 Xeon workstation running 3 instances of KDE 4.10, again, the CPU usage (across all 8 cores) is 10-20%. (Though VNC really dislikes KDE's special effects) Can you elaborate on the setup (E.g. are you using rdp/vnc/X), hardware, networking, etc? - Gilboa ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: when linux was linux
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Erez D erez0...@gmail.com wrote: so we found ourselves with 6 instances of nautiluis (we have 6 users) eating all the 4 cpus after searching the web and failing to solve the problem, i decided to move to a lighter desktop so we all switched to xfce4 but now we have 6 xfdesktop processes eating the 4 cpus, with no solution to be found My first suspects would be one of the following: a) All sorts of previews (in nautilus and possibly other programs) - there have been issues with, say, SVG files, especially large ones such as wallpapers, or with directories with a lot of audio files and so on, and so forth. searching RH's Bugzilla may point to ways to check those kinds of problems. Some configuration tweakery (e.g., disabling previews for certain kinds of files) or updating to pull in a bugfix in case something like librsvg2 is old may help. b) Some sort of desktop indexing program similar to beagle (was it?) that runs in the backround for each user. I always disable/uninstall those - they are useless (for me) and annoying. You may know this is not the case from knowing which process higs the CPUs, but just to cover this angle as well. Disclaimers: 1) I have no real idea what the problem is in your case. 2) I do not even use nautilus or GNOME or XFCE myself, I am only waving my hands vigorously here. -- Oleg Goldshmidt | p...@goldshmidt.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: when linux was linux
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 08:28:51 +0300 Erez D erez0...@gmail.com wrote: so we found ourselves with 6 instances of nautiluis (we have 6 users) eating all the 4 cpus Nautilus! Slowly I turn, step by step, inch by inch. In the history of computerdom, has there ever been such a resource hungry dog outside the realm of KDE? Back in the day, when Nautilus was installed on my (Gnome) computer, every time it started, I had to reboot to get rid of it, and until I did, the computer ran like a 286. I understand this is only tangential to what you're saying, but if I had to have four instances of a program, I'd sure hate that program to be Nautilus :-) Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
when linux was linux
i used to think that linux is a system that countrary to windows, can run multiple users with no problems then came the modern desktops ones that scans your disk so you could find what you want in an instant or do other 'windows-like' things so we found ourselves with 6 instances of nautiluis (we have 6 users) eating all the 4 cpus after searching the web and failing to solve the problem, i decided to move to a lighter desktop so we all switched to xfce4 but now we have 6 xfdesktop processes eating the 4 cpus, with no solution to be found oh, when linux was linux and not trying to imitate windows ... btw: running CentOS 6.3 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
