RE: AOL doesn't accept mail - free relaying of email

2003-10-21 Thread Arik Baratz
-Original Message- From: Boris Ratner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Now all customers suffer from this if their ISP got blocked by AOL. And they should. They should suffer for choosing an ISP that disrespects its own acceptable use policy, and gets itself into some kind of blackhole or

Re: AOL doesn't accept mail - free relaying of email

2003-10-21 Thread Arie Folger
So what is it I should do? And who is blacklisted, I or my ISP? (I am, as I stated earlier, on a private IP from an ADSL router - that does have a public IP - connected to an ISP. My box is a plain vanilla RH9.) Arie Folger On Tuesday 21 October 2003 03:59, Boris Ratner wrote: I happen to

RE: AOL doesn't accept mail - free relaying of email

2003-10-21 Thread Herouth Maoz
Quoting Arik Baratz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What the customer must do is switch to an ISP that actually enforces its AUP and doesn't get its address blocks blackholed. This is the ONLY way IMHO to convince an ISP to change their ways. Great. I don't know which ISPs AOL blocks, but I assume based

RE: AOL doesn't accept mail - free relaying of email

2003-10-21 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
AB And they should. They should suffer for choosing an ISP that AB disrespects its own acceptable use policy, and gets itself into AB some kind of blackhole or another. What the customer must do is Oh come on. It is a common knowledge that at least some of these relays are too quick to add whole

RE: AOL doesn't accept mail - free relaying of email

2003-10-21 Thread Arik Baratz
-Original Message- From: Herouth Maoz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Great. I don't know which ISPs AOL blocks, but I assume based on my own past spams that these include Internet Zahav, Netvision, 012, Actcom, and if I'm not mistaken, Barak. Now tell me which viable option can I have for

Re: AOL doesn't accept mail - free relaying of email

2003-10-21 Thread linux-il
Arik Baratz wrote: -Original Message- From: Herouth Maoz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Great. I don't know which ISPs AOL blocks, but I assume based on my own past spams that these include Internet Zahav, Netvision, 012, Actcom, and if I'm not mistaken, Barak. Now tell me which viable option

RE: AOL doesn't accept mail - free relaying of email

2003-10-21 Thread Arik Baratz
-Original Message- From: Stanislav Malyshev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] AB And they should. They should suffer for choosing an ISP that AB disrespects its own acceptable use policy, and gets itself into AB some kind of blackhole or another. What the customer must do is Oh come on. It is

RE: AOL doesn't accept mail - free relaying of email

2003-10-21 Thread Arik Baratz
Well, you can start by moving to a different ISP, explaining them why you did. Then you should choose the one with the best record... If none of them is perfect, choose the least worse. Yes, and don't forget to put an elephant at the end to make sure the algorithm will terminate. Do you

RE: AOL doesn't accept mail - free relaying of email

2003-10-21 Thread Rony Shapiro
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: AOL doesn't accept mail - free relaying of email -Original Message- From: Stanislav Malyshev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] AB And they should. They should suffer for choosing an ISP that AB disrespects its own acceptable use policy, and gets itself

Re: AOL doesn't accept mail - free relaying of email

2003-10-20 Thread Boris Ratner
Hi, I happen to stumble across the AOL antispam policies several times all large Israeli (might be international as well) ISPs suffer from those. AOL have a self-developed heuristic anti-spam mechanism. This program finds out who is the owner of the IP block that the spam message is sent from

AOL doesn't accept mail - free relaying of email

2003-06-12 Thread Arie Folger
Hi, We discussed this matter in the past, that AOL decided no longer to accept mail from servers that relay mail freely or have open proxies. The funny thing is that I am on a private network, and should therefore not be visible to the outside world, definitely not as a mail server. So, am I

Re: AOL doesn't accept mail - free relaying of email

2003-06-12 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Thu, Jun 12, 2003, Arie Folger wrote about AOL doesn't accept mail - free relaying of email: to the outside world, definitely not as a mail server. So, am I right to conclude that this complaint of AOL's is directed towards my ISP? Or is it towards the ADSL router of ours? We're missing