Re: Fwd: Flash based games not working
Hi, I have managed to watch the advertisement part of the video on the http://wejew.com site: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133473 The trick was to disable adblock, remove or add exception for the stock rule /adserver/* . Looks like everybody here has the adblock enabled :) ... On ubuntu 32bit, the firefox locked up hard however, after watching the 10 seconds of the ad. -- Arie ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Fwd: Flash based games not working
2009/9/17 Arie Skliarouk sklia...@gmail.com: On ubuntu 32bit, the firefox locked up hard however, after watching the 10 seconds of the ad. Don't know whether this is related but whenever I try to switch youtube video to full screen on Ubuntu 9.04 32 bit firefox locks up. Does anyone else have this problem? --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Fwd: Flash based games not working
I do. firefox 3 64bit. Sometimes it gets so heavily busy that it hangs the entire system. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/9/17 Arie Skliarouk sklia...@gmail.com: On ubuntu 32bit, the firefox locked up hard however, after watching the 10 seconds of the ad. Don't know whether this is related but whenever I try to switch youtube video to full screen on Ubuntu 9.04 32 bit firefox locks up. Does anyone else have this problem? --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Fwd: Flash based games not working
Amos Flash on Ubuntu 9 in general consumes much more CPU than previous versions, full screen youtube on my dual core machine takes 70% of each of the two cpus- which may be why FF locks. I've confirmed this for 32 and 64 bit - it's well documented on the Ubuntu forums.fwiwpeople are waiting for Adobe Try upgrading to FF3,5,2 (Shiretoko) - it seems to be much faster for certain operations and better behaved with gmail java scripts/Ajax Danny Lieberman - http://www.dannylieberman.info Twitter: http://twitter.com/onlyjazz Skype: dannyl50 Warsaw:+48-79-609-5964 Israel: +972 8 9701485 Mobile: +972 - 54 447 1114 On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.comwrote: 2009/9/17 Arie Skliarouk sklia...@gmail.com: On ubuntu 32bit, the firefox locked up hard however, after watching the 10 seconds of the ad. Don't know whether this is related but whenever I try to switch youtube video to full screen on Ubuntu 9.04 32 bit firefox locks up. Does anyone else have this problem? --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Fwd: Flash based games not working
2009/9/17 Danny Lieberman dan...@software.co.il: Amos Flash on Ubuntu 9 in general consumes much more CPU than previous versions, full screen youtube on my dual core machine takes 70% of each of the two cpus- which may be why FF locks. I've confirmed this for 32 and 64 bit - it's well documented on the Ubuntu forums.fwiwpeople are waiting for Adobe Try upgrading to FF3,5,2 (Shiretoko) - it seems to be much faster for certain operations and better behaved with gmail java scripts/Ajax Thanks. I'm already using Firefox 3.5 (can't remember how I installed it but it's not the Ubuntu package - 9.04 comes with 3.0). --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Fwd: Flash based games not working
This is a well known bug in Flash on FF on Ubuntu - I've tried 32 and 64 bit FF3 and FF3.5 (you can update with Synaptic) and all I can say is that the problems seem marginally better in 32 bit systems - I assume because 64 bit Adobe is still alpha code. When you find an answer let me know Ditto for the Skype sound issues Danny Lieberman - http://www.dannylieberman.info Twitter: http://twitter.com/onlyjazz Skype: dannyl50 Warsaw:+48-79-609-5964 Israel: +972 8 9701485 Mobile: +972 - 54 447 1114 On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Raz razi...@gmail.com wrote: I do. firefox 3 64bit. Sometimes it gets so heavily busy that it hangs the entire system. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/9/17 Arie Skliarouk sklia...@gmail.com: On ubuntu 32bit, the firefox locked up hard however, after watching the 10 seconds of the ad. Don't know whether this is related but whenever I try to switch youtube video to full screen on Ubuntu 9.04 32 bit firefox locks up. Does anyone else have this problem? --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
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2009/9/17 Danny Lieberman dan...@software.co.il: This is a well known bug in Flash on FF on Ubuntu - I've tried 32 and 64 bit FF3 and FF3.5 (you can update with Synaptic) and all I can say is that the problems seem marginally better in 32 bit systems - I assume because 64 bit Adobe is still alpha code. When you find an answer let me know Ditto for the Skype sound issues Skype just released version 2.1 beta for Linux which supports PulseAudio. Skype always had output sound work fine for but not input (on my home desktop, Dell Dimention E520, on my whitebox desktop at the office it works well), but I suspect it's a problem with support for my audio hardware in general, or most probably PEBCAK on my part. --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Fwd: Flash based games not working
Just a few notes on WeJew.com streaming... WeJew is hosted in the US. We've been tweaking our streaming methods to improve streaming for Israeli users. Here's what we've done and what we've found... a - We did basic progressive video file streaming using Apache. A number of Israeli users reported slow downloading / streaming. b - We switched to lighttpd as the streaming method, first on port 81 then on port 8080. Lighttpd is noted as being much faster than Apache (and has lower server overhead), but we received a number of problem reports. First that the video loader just spun the 'waiting' icon and never loaded, and second that the stream loaded extremely slowly - and this was particularly noted on 012.net (the worst) and somewhat on Netvision. We identified the first case as being as overly strict firewall settings, which we were able to overcome with some player adjustments in most but not all cases. Some research led us to believe the case with the Israeli users was specifically due to ISP traffic shaping. We did experiments and found that some protocols were consistently slow and yet others were not to our servers from Israel, a clear sign of traffic shaping. Interestingly, we did some additional testing to France and don't seem to find a similar pattern. Our guess is that some Israeli ISP's are throttling traffic on their US backbone connections, with a focus on P2P and video streams. c - We switched to a http pseudo-streaming script (xmoov-php). As soon as we did this our Israeli customers with download delays immediately reported a major improvement. Even though we implemented this script with bandwidth throttling! Since this is delivered on port 80, the firewall issues also were removed. As a negative, the per-memory use on our server for each download stream is much heavier, but fortunately memory cost is not that high. If anyone has suggestions on improving flash stream loading, we'd certainly be happy to hear about it and try any suggestions. --Akiva WeJew.com Technical Team On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.comwrote: 2009/8/11 Micha Silver mi...@arava.co.il: Arie Skliarouk wrote: Forwarding to Linux-Il (see the message below). I don't have a way to check flash player 9 on the wejew.com http://wejew.com or walla.com http://walla.com sites. Can someone check the sites using flash player 9 please? Here's the link to the specific games: (very long, careful about line breaks...) http://fun.walla.co.il/ts.cgi?w=//1861/play/1/@c2pstatus=allswf_URL=http%3A%2F%2Fico.walla.co.il%2Fw6%2Fv%2Ffun%2Fc2p%2Fv5%2FRoomList_5%3Froom_id%3D1861%26amp%3Bsite_id%3D25%26amp%3Borigin%3DRoomList%26amp%3BipString%3D80.179.46.34%26amp%3Bjava_port%3D8080%26amp%3Ball_java_ips%3D%26amp%3Bnavigator%3DUnknown%26amp%3BcanRTMPT%3Don%26amp%3BmatchStarted%3Dt%26amp%3BmatchEnded%3Dt%26amp%3BgetSavedData%3Dt%26amp%3BsendMatchEnded%3Dt%26user_id%3D171724102%26random_hash%3D508006432user_id=171724102random_hash=508006432globalKey=1314859720 You should see a list of players in the central window. (The same problem appears with damka, chess, etc. on this site) Works for me. I could pick a game to watch and watch it being played. Hebrew chat between the players appeared in reverse. Using Ubuntu 9.04 32 bit. Plugins windows lists Shockwave Flash 10.0 r32 (I keep my system up to date). BTW - about the long link - there are numerous sites to shorten links, e.g. http://tinyurl.com/ and http://bit.ly/ Cheers, --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Fwd: Flash based games not working
2009/8/11 Akiva ak...@wejew.com c - We switched to a http pseudo-streaming script (xmoov-php). As soon as we did this our Israeli customers with download delays immediately reported a major improvement. Even though we implemented this script with bandwidth throttling! Since this is delivered on port 80, the firewall issues also were removed. As a negative, the per-memory use on our server for each download stream is much heavier, but fortunately memory cost is not that high. If anyone has suggestions on improving flash stream loading, we'd certainly be happy to hear about it and try any suggestions. 1. PHP (at least used to be) none thread-safe and therefore require use of pre-fork Apache MPM which in turn means process per request. Try to move away from PHP if possible by finding out what the protocol it implements looks like and using other implementations. 2. nginx is supposed to be a reverse proxy accelerator but it turns out that you can serve dynamic content from it too - including running PHP - and it's supposed to do this much better than Apache. --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Fwd: Flash based games not working
Forwarding to Linux-Il (see the message below). I don't have a way to check flash player 9 on the wejew.com or walla.comsites. Can someone check the sites using flash player 9 please? -- Arie -- Forwarded message -- From: Robert Wallner kodi...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 09:44 Subject: Re: Flash based games not working To: Arie Skliarouk sklia...@gmail.com I had the same problem with an application I developed in Haxe. It was related to a security change macrodobia made with the way a new security feature works with the new players. When connecting to a socket, the new players now request a policy file from the server, and if it doesn't exist, it just closes the connection. Old code that isn't updated to use this feature seems to get stuck when downloading something through sockets, like video players not playing the video, the spinner thing spinning forever, etc... http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplayer/articles/fplayer9_security.html Try to downgrade to a player version lower than 9.0.115.0, if it works, maybe that's the problem. 2009/8/11 Arie Skliarouk sklia...@gmail.com: That looks reminiscent to the way videos on site wejew.com don't work, for example http://wejew.com/media/5193/Hizbullah_Violates_UN_Resolution_1701_in_Lebanon_15.7.09/ It also loads up and the spinner rotates endlessly. The same problem happens on Windows XP with firefox 3.5 (under IE it works). I have been in touch with the developers of wejew.com and they said that they use firefox 3.5 (on windows) and don't see any problems. Micha, can you post direct URL to the problematic sheshbesh game on the walla.co.il site please? -- Arie On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 08:33, Micha Silver mi...@arava.co.il wrote: Some of the younger members of the family play flash games (sheshbesh) on Walla's site. On Ubuntu 8.10 and 8.04 this worked well (flashplugin-nonfree). The 8.10 machine was upgraded to 9.04 and still the site worked OK. But recently, after some other upgrades, the game no longer loads- just the sha-on hol. (Meanwhile on 8.04 it still works). We asked Walla's support and they haven't changed anything. Any ideas how to work around this? Thanks, Micha ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il Read moreOptions ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Robert Wallner ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Fwd: Flash based games not working
Arie Skliarouk wrote: Forwarding to Linux-Il (see the message below). I don't have a way to check flash player 9 on the wejew.com http://wejew.com or walla.com http://walla.com sites. Can someone check the sites using flash player 9 please? Here's the link to the specific games: (very long, careful about line breaks...) http://fun.walla.co.il/ts.cgi?w=//1861/play/1/@c2pstatus=allswf_URL=http%3A%2F%2Fico.walla.co.il%2Fw6%2Fv%2Ffun%2Fc2p%2Fv5%2FRoomList_5%3Froom_id%3D1861%26amp%3Bsite_id%3D25%26amp%3Borigin%3DRoomList%26amp%3BipString%3D80.179.46.34%26amp%3Bjava_port%3D8080%26amp%3Ball_java_ips%3D%26amp%3Bnavigator%3DUnknown%26amp%3BcanRTMPT%3Don%26amp%3BmatchStarted%3Dt%26amp%3BmatchEnded%3Dt%26amp%3BgetSavedData%3Dt%26amp%3BsendMatchEnded%3Dt%26user_id%3D171724102%26random_hash%3D508006432user_id=171724102random_hash=508006432globalKey=1314859720 You should see a list of players in the central window. (The same problem appears with damka, chess, etc. on this site) Thanks, Micha -- Arie -- Forwarded message -- From: *Robert Wallner* kodi...@gmail.com mailto:kodi...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 09:44 Subject: Re: Flash based games not working To: Arie Skliarouk sklia...@gmail.com mailto:sklia...@gmail.com I had the same problem with an application I developed in Haxe. It was related to a security change macrodobia made with the way a new security feature works with the new players. When connecting to a socket, the new players now request a policy file from the server, and if it doesn't exist, it just closes the connection. Old code that isn't updated to use this feature seems to get stuck when downloading something through sockets, like video players not playing the video, the spinner thing spinning forever, etc... http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplayer/articles/fplayer9_security.html Try to downgrade to a player version lower than 9.0.115.0, if it works, maybe that's the problem. 2009/8/11 Arie Skliarouk sklia...@gmail.com mailto:sklia...@gmail.com: That looks reminiscent to the way videos on site wejew.com http://wejew.com don't work, for example http://wejew.com/media/5193/Hizbullah_Violates_UN_Resolution_1701_in_Lebanon_15.7.09/ It also loads up and the spinner rotates endlessly. The same problem happens on Windows XP with firefox 3.5 (under IE it works). I have been in touch with the developers of wejew.com http://wejew.com and they said that they use firefox 3.5 (on windows) and don't see any problems. Micha, can you post direct URL to the problematic sheshbesh game on the walla.co.il http://walla.co.il site please? -- Arie On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 08:33, Micha Silver mi...@arava.co.il mailto:mi...@arava.co.il wrote: Some of the younger members of the family play flash games (sheshbesh) on Walla's site. On Ubuntu 8.10 and 8.04 this worked well (flashplugin-nonfree). The 8.10 machine was upgraded to 9.04 and still the site worked OK. But recently, after some other upgrades, the game no longer loads- just the sha-on hol. (Meanwhile on 8.04 it still works). We asked Walla's support and they haven't changed anything. Any ideas how to work around this? Thanks, Micha ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il mailto:Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il Read moreOptions ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il mailto:Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Robert Wallner This mail was received via Mail-SeCure System. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il This mail was received via Mail-SeCure System. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Fwd: Flash based games not working
2009/8/11 Micha Silver mi...@arava.co.il: Arie Skliarouk wrote: Forwarding to Linux-Il (see the message below). I don't have a way to check flash player 9 on the wejew.com http://wejew.com or walla.com http://walla.com sites. Can someone check the sites using flash player 9 please? Here's the link to the specific games: (very long, careful about line breaks...) http://fun.walla.co.il/ts.cgi?w=//1861/play/1/@c2pstatus=allswf_URL=http%3A%2F%2Fico.walla.co.il%2Fw6%2Fv%2Ffun%2Fc2p%2Fv5%2FRoomList_5%3Froom_id%3D1861%26amp%3Bsite_id%3D25%26amp%3Borigin%3DRoomList%26amp%3BipString%3D80.179.46.34%26amp%3Bjava_port%3D8080%26amp%3Ball_java_ips%3D%26amp%3Bnavigator%3DUnknown%26amp%3BcanRTMPT%3Don%26amp%3BmatchStarted%3Dt%26amp%3BmatchEnded%3Dt%26amp%3BgetSavedData%3Dt%26amp%3BsendMatchEnded%3Dt%26user_id%3D171724102%26random_hash%3D508006432user_id=171724102random_hash=508006432globalKey=1314859720 You should see a list of players in the central window. (The same problem appears with damka, chess, etc. on this site) Works for me. I could pick a game to watch and watch it being played. Hebrew chat between the players appeared in reverse. Using Ubuntu 9.04 32 bit. Plugins windows lists Shockwave Flash 10.0 r32 (I keep my system up to date). BTW - about the long link - there are numerous sites to shorten links, e.g. http://tinyurl.com/ and http://bit.ly/ Cheers, --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
