Re: OFFTOPIC: Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?

2009-02-09 Thread boaz
Not so fast... On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 21:18:13 -0800, Aviram Jenik avi...@jenik.com wrote: Tal Kaplan, from pczlaw, was kind enough to give me a detailed explanation(*) about this matter. First, to answer both Dotan and Boaz, it should be a relatively simple process to get 1,000 NIS for

Re: [OFFTOPIC] RE: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?

2009-02-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Omer Zak wrote: From the contents of a relatively unfiltered mailbox (which fortunately is not widely advertised and I check it only once each few weeks), Leiberman indeed uses very much the political exemption. I got in that mailbox a lot of spam from: * Israel Beitanu (Leiberman's party) -

Re: OFFTOPIC: Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?

2009-02-09 Thread Uri Bruck
b...@rymland.com wrote: You may want to start with this: http://www.moital.gov.il/NR/exeres/1A0A7AB5-68D4-4739-801D-44390FEE7A39.htm That's exactly the reason why I haven't done it myself as well. The necessity to appear in court which means taking a day off or something. A few

Re: OFFTOPIC: Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?

2009-02-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
b...@rymland.com wrote: That's exactly the reason why I haven't done it myself as well. The necessity to appear in court which means taking a day off or something. You can add that cost to the claim. A few complimentary questions: 1) Have anyone heard of successful small claims suits so

Re: OFFTOPIC: Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?

2009-02-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: Well, I find that hard to believe. You will eventually have to prove that you received the SPAM from them. and that you did not alter it in any way. The law is very specific that having your name appearing on the spam as the one being advertised is sufficient

Re: OFFTOPIC: Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?

2009-02-09 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 11:24:34AM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: The law is very specific that having your name appearing on the spam as the one being advertised is sufficient evidence that you are the presumed spammer. I imagine that, should the spammer want to claim they are not, the burden

Re: OFFTOPIC: Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?

2009-02-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 11:24:34AM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: The law is very specific that having your name appearing on the spam as the one being advertised is sufficient evidence that you are the presumed spammer. I imagine that, should the spammer want to

Re: OFFTOPIC: Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?

2009-02-09 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009, Shachar Shemesh wrote about Re: OFFTOPIC: Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?: Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: Well, I find that hard to believe. You will eventually have to prove that you received the SPAM from them. and that you did not alter it in any way

Re: OFFTOPIC: Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?

2009-02-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Nadav Har'El wrote: What do you do in such a case? Sue. The law specifically says that the person in charge of marketing must make a personal effort to make sure that the company is spam free, or face PERSONAL consequences. In any case, like I said before, it's up to the spammer to prove

Re: OFFTOPIC: Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?

2009-02-09 Thread Aviram Jenik
On Sunday 08 February 2009 23:42:54 b...@rymland.com wrote: The only down side is that in small claims you have to file and appear yourself, without a lawyer. This is basically the reason I haven't done it yet. That's exactly the reason why I haven't done it myself as well. The

Re: OFFTOPIC: Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?

2009-02-09 Thread Amit Aronovitch
According to a couple of recent Hebrew spams that I got, there's a loophole allowing ONE spam message per spammer per email address. They say that the law allows sending one message if it is an offer for registration to a publicity list (they can't send you more if you do not respond), so

Re: OFFTOPIC: Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?

2009-02-09 Thread Moish
Amit Aronovitch wrote: According to a couple of recent Hebrew spams that I got, there's a loophole allowing ONE spam message per spammer per email address. They say that the law allows sending one message if it is an offer for registration to a publicity list (they can't send you more if you

Re: OFFTOPIC: Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?

2009-02-09 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Aviram Jenik, from the post of Mon, 09 Feb: On Sunday 08 February 2009 23:42:54 b...@rymland.com wrote: The only down side is that in small claims you have to file and appear yourself, without a lawyer. This is basically the reason I haven't done Agreed. The only reason I wrote

[OFFTOPIC] RE: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?

2009-02-08 Thread Omer Zak
From the contents of a relatively unfiltered mailbox (which fortunately is not widely advertised and I check it only once each few weeks), Leiberman indeed uses very much the political exemption. I got in that mailbox a lot of spam from: * Israel Beitanu (Leiberman's party) - sends tons of spam.

OFFTOPIC: Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?

2009-02-08 Thread Boaz Rymland
Similarly, due to time constraints I'm not currently performing any active steps with the several spam emails that I have received lately, all from some coaching/spiritual spammer. If there's a lawyer or someone with enough spare time on his hands in the crowd who wishes to raise the glove

Re: OFFTOPIC: Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?

2009-02-08 Thread Aviram Jenik
Tal Kaplan, from pczlaw, was kind enough to give me a detailed explanation(*) about this matter. First, to answer both Dotan and Boaz, it should be a relatively simple process to get 1,000 NIS for every incoming hebrew spam. Think about it as a gift from a stranger. The process is documented