RE: what's going on with the list ?
I see.. then potentially any person is problematic (it could actually be you as well). That's what I wanted to know. thanks. On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Tzahi Fadida wrote: First of all, get ur english straight. i can't see anywhere that i mentioned you or someone at bosmat was guilty of something. could be != it is. Also, i might add. that if u are incharge of their server farms i would suggest that instead of trying to start a flame war against people who are trying to help solve the problem, check to see if its true in the morning. * - * - * Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Cool Site: HTTP://WWW.My2Nis.Com * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html -Original Message- From: Adir Abraham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:53 AM To: Tzahi Fadida Cc: Linux Mailing-List Subject: RE: what's going on with the list ? Are you trying to make some conspiracy? Have you got some base facts now, are you just trying to find black sheeps? On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Tzahi Fadida wrote: silence! i am trying to focus and try to see into the past. there i see it! its a bosmat server. it could be that one of the students made a mailing rule or something and forgot a computer open. * - * - * Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Cool Site: HTTP://WWW.My2Nis.Com * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html -Original Message- From: Adir Abraham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 1:04 AM To: Nadav Har'El Cc: Tzahi Fadida; Linux Mailing-List Subject: Re: what's going on with the list ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?!?!? How did you get into THAT email address..? (it's a machine I'm in charge on) On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Wed, Oct 02, 2002, Tzahi Fadida wrote about RE: what's going on with the list ?: yeah, enough is enough! stop bombing my mailbox. calmly: as you gathered its happening here too. It looks like someone on the list is looping it! [EMAIL PROTECTED], perhaps? (sorry if I'm blaming the innocent) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: what's going on with the list ?
I see.. then potentially any person is problematic (it could actually be you as well). Dear Mr. Abraham, If instead of arguing you would have actually tried to find the cause of the problem, you would have seen that both emails that continually bounce are sent via the technion's mail gateway mailgw2.technion.ac.il. No other server except huji's appear in the loop headers and thus it cannot be Tzahi's server who is problematic, for example, since Tzahi seems to use his own mail server (212.199.226.13, a golden lines address if I'm not mistaken). So we can agree that it can be your server's problem, but it cannot be Tzahi's server problem unless he's into spoofing mail headers in some clever way I've never heard of. What pisses me off about your response is the fact that instead of trying to solve the problem, you try and change the subject. Nobody wants to put you or the technion on a national enquiry board. Both Nadav and Tzahi tried to find the root of the problem - now shut up and fix the problem, or at least TRY to see if it's a problems with your servers (I can only assume you're responsible for the Technion servers in some way since the way you reacted) - Aviram = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: what's going on with the list ?
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Aviram Jenik wrote: If instead of arguing you would have actually tried to find the cause of the problem, you would have seen that both emails that continually bounce are sent via the technion's mail gateway mailgw2.technion.ac.il. Oh. That's an interesting fact. I would have seen that the emails are bounced via the Technion's mailgw2.technion.ac.il. I have nothing to do with the Technion's mailing gateway systems, so it's interesting that you got to that conclusion. if I'm not mistaken). So we can agree that it can be your server's problem, but it cannot be Tzahi's server problem unless he's into spoofing mail headers in some clever way I've never heard of. It can be any server from the Technion. That's why I wondered why (and how) Nadav said what he said, and I still am waiting for his answer (logs, actually). What pisses me off about your response is the fact that instead of trying to solve the problem, you try and change the subject. Nobody I don't try to change the subject. The opposite. I am trying to figure out how they got into that conslusion, as Nadav was talking about an account which is not active anymore, and Tzahi was talking about the past. Is this how you solve problems? I hope not. wants to put you or the technion on a national enquiry board. Both Nadav and Tzahi tried to find the root of the problem - now shut up and fix the problem, or at least TRY to see if it's a problems with your servers I heard that there are some very good mouth washers in the super-markets. I believe that one of them will help you (a bit, at least). (I can only assume you're responsible for the Technion servers in some way since the way you reacted) My reaction was a surprised reaction. I am not in charge of the Technion servers (it has many. I am not in charge of mailgw, atleast). Nadav was talking about [EMAIL PROTECTED] (a very specific account which is not active anymore). junior10 is a server that I am in charge of (and I am not in charge of the Technion's mailing gateway!). The server looks like it works fine, which is why I wondered, and I still am waiting for logs (any) to arrive. Nadav also said that he might be wrong (how did he arrive to that email address in the first place?), Tzahi was talking about his past(?), and you concluded that I am in charge of the Technion's servers... very interesting :) Now, if any of you can be more specific, and not just guess around, I will be glad. Adir. - Aviram = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: what's going on with the list ?
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Adir Abraham wrote: On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Aviram Jenik wrote: If instead of arguing you would have actually tried to find the cause of the problem, you would have seen that both emails that continually bounce are sent via the technion's mail gateway mailgw2.technion.ac.il. Oh. That's an interesting fact. I would have seen that the emails are bounced via the Technion's mailgw2.technion.ac.il. I have nothing to do with the Technion's mailing gateway systems, so it's interesting that you got to that conclusion. [.. snip ..[ people, people, what's the matter with y'all? shouting at each other for no good reason. such a misunderstanding - as far as i saw in the headers of the bounces (i only looked at one of them), there was no information there that could point towards any bosmat servers. indeed, i have no idea where nadav came with that email address from - i erased all the redundant copies (and i see the bouncing has stopped by now) so i might have missed something. now, if i may add constructive suggestions for next time (please don't get mad - i'm suggesting something practical - not fair). adir - if people get to such wonderous conclusions in the future, just state the fact that you looked at the mail headers, found nothing regarding those email addresses in them, and wonder where the original sender got this info from. you _almost_ did that, except for trying to explain why nadav's conclusion seemed to clash with the reality you see. think it over a bit - you might see what i mean. and aviram - there's no need to jump to conclusions about what adir's role is. nothing in the letters he wrote implied he's in charge of the technion's mail gateway - he only responded to the email address issue that nadav brought up. true - adir's response _seemed_ to imply a fwe things - but mostly if it was read out of context, and still it probably did not warrant such a harsh response. and i thought the heat wave is over by now ;) i'd suggest that in the next occasion, we all try to read email letters in full, before we send such harsh messages to the list. will help to keep everyone's calm. -- guy For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator. -- nob o. dy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: what's going on with the list ?
people, people, what's the matter with y'all? shouting at each other for no good reason. I think there's a very good reason. Such newbie behavior cannot be tolerated on this list (we spent many Marc-hours cleaning this list from ignorant newbie crap). Look what happened: 1. emails start bouncing around and my inbox is stuffed with dozens of stupid emails 2. Nadav and Tzahi comment about the fact that the email headers have technion host names (the first bounce had the Aladdin name Nadav mentioned) 3. Adir asks (not very politely) why the technion is being blamed 4. He receives a (calm) reply from Tzahi telling him it *seems* to be the technion servers but he's not blaming anyone 5. Adir replies with an even less polite email implying Tzahi is making it up and it's probably a conspiracy theory 6. I lose my temper a bit and try to set Adir's priorities straight 7. Adir shows that he cannot read email headers [ I'll save you the rest, it's in the archives ] In the future, I suggest that people who subscribe to this list be asked to pass a quick test of things like how to use man, how to use telnet and how to read email headers. Only people who can do at least 2 out of 3 of those enormous tasks will be subscribed. The others will be subscribed to the gnunies list or something. In any case, I don't see why I have to tolerate stupid responses. No offense Guy - I know you're trying to make peace. But I seriously think some people can only be educated by flogging. - Aviram = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's going on with the list ?
On Thursday 03 October 2002 19:28, you wrote: ppl, stop this childish behavior, you are acting like a 5 year olds trying to win a pissing contest. let's agree that it's nobodys fault, there r no interesting facts, and nobody is a moron, ok ? p.s marc, why wouln't you step in and say something, ppl here claiming that it is ur list. :-) -- Oleg Kobets Network Administrator Breakthrough LTD. Black hole is just God divided by zero To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's going on with the list ?
On Thursday 03 October 2002 19:59, you wrote: In the future, I suggest that people who subscribe to this list be asked to pass a quick test of things like how to use man, how to use telnet and how to read email headers. Only people who can do at least 2 out of 3 of those enormous tasks will be subscribed. The others will be subscribed to the gnunies list or something. In any case, I don't see why I have to tolerate stupid responses. What a bright idea ! Let's all pass a quick test and then half the list will be banned and ppl that are 3l33t will be stuck with each other doing nothing. R U instane ? Don't you understand tolerance and being polite ? I do not want to flame you, but I am pissed off by your 2 previos responses. First you act like a damn child and start a flaming war, second you suggest to do screening, and third you think that for some reason this list belongs only to you. WAKE UP, were are all here and we should deal with problems like adults. Enough said -- Oleg Kobets Network Administrator Breakthrough LTD. Black hole is just God divided by zero To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: what's going on with the list ?
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Aviram Jenik wrote: OMG. I apologize for implying you were intentionally unhelpful - apparently you are clueless and completely ignorant. I can only hope for the I sure am ignorant. couldn't reach your level though, sorry. Technion that you indeed have nothing to do with their email servers, or else our high education is hopeless. I am just glad that you don't represent the Technion, neither the high education :) Interesting fact: Email messages have headers (look up the relevant RFC in google). Seriously? Can't be. Interesting fact: The email headers show what mail servers it has been sent through. Interesting. I haven't never heard about it. Let me write that down. Interesting fact: The messages that kept bouncing had repeating headers with the server mailgw2.technion.ac.il in them. I did not just make this server name up, I just looked at the so called e-mail headers (interesting, isn't it?). Sure it is. And the fact that mailgw2.technion.ac.il represents 2 class B domains concludes that it is junior10, or that I hold them, as well :) Interesting fact: Tzahi Fadida's email seems to also have headers. Interesting fact: Tzahi's emails headers are different from the servers that appear in the repeated message (corollary: saying It could actually be you as well to Tzahi showed you're a as sharp as a marble). If you didn't get it (sorry, I guess it's too low for you), what I said, sarcasticly, is that Tzahi's response has not arrived out of any knowledge (that it happened now, I mean), but from pointing something from the past (something about bosmat's students, even though that very specific username was not of a student's). Using this information, with Nadav's guess (wrong guess, and he already knows that), you built some story concluded that I try to defend/cover something. Then you decided that you had a Bad Day, and decided to practice your Boss Skills. Paranoid today, aren't we? *This* way, I can point that anybody is guilty. Including *you*. Interesting fact: Research shows almost anyone can look at the email headers. They are not secret and there is a simple witchcraft that brings up those mysterious beasts (look it up in your mail client's manual. Ask for directions to the manual if you need). Check pine. I found out that pressing H gives you the headers!! I wonder what all those interesting facts mean. I truely do wonder as well. It gave us a lot of information regarding the guilty one. By the way, did you write The idiots guide to be an idiot? If this bunch of facts was too fast for you (I think we already agreed you're a sandwich short of a picnic), what I'm trying to say is that it's not Nadav, Tzahi or myself who are crazy or delusional, it's actually yourself who is a moron. So, we all agree that you're smarter and wiser. *I* am proud of you :) BTW: I can flame anyone I want. It's Marc's list and I can get a warrant from him if required. Do flame. I haven't heard such a good joke for a long time :) Once again, instead of all this cr*p you're spreading in the air.. If you have got some base facts that anything arrives from junior10 (and that I really missed something, except for your very interesting lessons!), do let me know. Adir. - Aviram = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: what's going on with the list ?
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, guy keren wrote: there that could point towards any bosmat servers. indeed, i have no idea where nadav came with that email address from - i erased all the redundant copies (and i see the bouncing has stopped by now) so i might have missed something. Nadav showed me the relevant headers. Except for some mail which was *sent* to aladdin@junior10, there was nothing there. Then some bouncing started, in mailgw.technion.ac.il. I find that as a conincidence. Btw - if some mail got out of junior10 - before it reached mailgw, it would pass through junior10 (out of it, not for it). I haven't seen that happening either. Btw, in addition to mailgw, I see there another host (ask Nadav for the logs he sent me). I won't mention it in here since I don't want to make it look like I am trying to find some guilty person as well. adir - if people get to such wonderous conclusions in the future, just state the fact that you looked at the mail headers, found nothing regarding those email addresses in them, and wonder where the original sender got this info from. you _almost_ did that, except for trying to explain why nadav's conclusion seemed to clash with the reality you see. think it over a bit - you might see what i mean. I was surprised, and my reaction was a complete surprise since that email address was mentioned. If I didn't care, I would simply ignore it, and nobody would know (which person to shout on for nothing). When I saw nothing from my side, I looked for more information. From Nadav I got some information, and from the rest, you know what I got. I do understand what you mean, and next time it will be considered that part of this list's attitude is problematic. and i thought the heat wave is over by now ;) i'd suggest that in the next occasion, we all try to read email letters in full, before we send such harsh messages to the list. will help to keep everyone's calm. Indeed, and thanks for this email. Be sure that this email is my last one regarding this issue. Best regards, Adir. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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People, this argument on whether or not certain people are guilty of looping mail or not, and whether or not circumstantial evidence found in looping email can be used to pinpoint the exact culprit, is getting rather ugly, and completely pointless. A wise man once said that if you never try, you'll never fail. So people who work as system administrators and do sophisticated stuff are bound to mess up once in a while. The more advanced the system administrator, the more spectacular his rare failures can be. If you think this mail loop was bad, you should have seen the mail loop I've caused a few years ago on my own server - that one was a real nuclear-powered mail loop, that took hours of hard work by two people to clean up :) So there is no reason to insult anyone, even if it is his fault, and certainly not if it was never his fault in the first place, like might very well be in this case. Next time such a loop occurs because of problems on the subscribers'-side (not a misconfiguration on the server side), I wholeheartedly request that the mailing list manager try to block out the loop (e.g., by forbidding postings which already have the X-list: linux-il header, like I recommended in a previous post) and not let it get out of hand like it did this time. On Fri, Oct 04, 2002, Adir Abraham wrote about RE: what's going on with the list ?: On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, guy keren wrote: Nadav showed me the relevant headers. Except for some mail which was *sent* to aladdin@junior10, there was nothing there. Then some bouncing started, in mailgw.technion.ac.il. I find that as a conincidence. Btw - if It might be, but it might not. I don't know. This was just a lead, not evidence for a court of law. The fact that the bounced mail (many of them, actually) was carrying that aladdin@junior10 email on it, was conclusive evidence that the mail started looping on its way to this specific person. It doesn't mean that this person did something wrong - it could be any mail server between them, including the technion's mail exchanger, mailgw. some mail got out of junior10 - before it reached mailgw, it would pass through junior10 (out of it, not for it). I haven't seen that happening either. Btw, in addition to mailgw, I see there another host (ask Nadav for the logs he sent me). I won't mention it in here since I don't want to make it look like I am trying to find some guilty person as well. I hope you don't mean the math.technion.ac.il host, which was simply the final destination of that mail... I want to make it clear again, that I was never trying to get the guilty person hung. By the time I sent that lead, this loop problem had been going on for over 24 hours, so I wanted it to end. One way to end it is to add filters on the server, and I explained how to do it, but it wasn't done. So the other way was to mention an email address that suspiciously appeared on many of the looping messages, hoping that this person would check out if he didn't change anything in his configuration lately (it's easy to mess up a procmail configuration file...). I didn't think that merely saying that perhaps someone was involved was going to get him publicly stoned. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. -- Nadav Har'El| Friday, Oct 4 2002, 28 Tishri 5763 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |Strike not only while the iron is hot, http://nadav.harel.org.il |make the iron hot by striking it. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wednesday 02 October 2002 12:07, Ishai Parasol wrote: Hi there Am I the only one who get the messages 20 times each ? No, I'm in the same situation. :-( Ishai. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: what's going on with the list ?
yeah, enough is enough! stop bombing my mailbox. calmly: as you gathered its happening here too. * - * - * Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Cool Site: HTTP://WWW.My2Nis.Com * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alex Chudnovsky Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 12:36 AM To: Linux Mailing-List Subject: Re: what's going on with the list ? On Wednesday 02 October 2002 12:07, Ishai Parasol wrote: Hi there Am I the only one who get the messages 20 times each ? No, I'm in the same situation. :-( Ishai. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's going on with the list ?
Tzahi Fadida wrote: yeah, enough is enough! stop bombing my mailbox. calmly: as you gathered its happening here too. Here too, and it seems like only happening with mails to the huji address... * - * - * Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Cool Site: HTTP://WWW.My2Nis.Com * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alex Chudnovsky Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 12:36 AM To: Linux Mailing-List Subject: Re: what's going on with the list ? On Wednesday 02 October 2002 12:07, Ishai Parasol wrote: Hi there Am I the only one who get the messages 20 times each ? No, I'm in the same situation. :-( Ishai. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Me too! Tal Peer wrote: Tzahi Fadida wrote: yeah, enough is enough! stop bombing my mailbox. calmly: as you gathered its happening here too. Here too, and it seems like only happening with mails to the huji address... * - * - * Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Cool Site: HTTP://WWW.My2Nis.Com * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alex Chudnovsky Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 12:36 AM To: Linux Mailing-List Subject: Re: what's going on with the list ? On Wednesday 02 October 2002 12:07, Ishai Parasol wrote: Hi there Am I the only one who get the messages 20 times each ? No, I'm in the same situation. :-( Ishai. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, Oct 02, 2002, Tzahi Fadida wrote about RE: what's going on with the list ?: yeah, enough is enough! stop bombing my mailbox. calmly: as you gathered its happening here too. It looks like someone on the list is looping it! [EMAIL PROTECTED], perhaps? (sorry if I'm blaming the innocent) -- Nadav Har'El| Thursday, Oct 3 2002, 27 Tishri 5763 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |Life is what happens to you while you're http://nadav.harel.org.il |busy making other plans. - John Lennon = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] ?!?!? How did you get into THAT email address..? (it's a machine I'm in charge on) On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Wed, Oct 02, 2002, Tzahi Fadida wrote about RE: what's going on with the list ?: yeah, enough is enough! stop bombing my mailbox. calmly: as you gathered its happening here too. It looks like someone on the list is looping it! [EMAIL PROTECTED], perhaps? (sorry if I'm blaming the innocent) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: what's going on with the list ?
silence! i am trying to focus and try to see into the past. there i see it! its a bosmat server. it could be that one of the students made a mailing rule or something and forgot a computer open. * - * - * Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Cool Site: HTTP://WWW.My2Nis.Com * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html -Original Message- From: Adir Abraham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 1:04 AM To: Nadav Har'El Cc: Tzahi Fadida; Linux Mailing-List Subject: Re: what's going on with the list ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?!?!? How did you get into THAT email address..? (it's a machine I'm in charge on) On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Wed, Oct 02, 2002, Tzahi Fadida wrote about RE: what's going on with the list ?: yeah, enough is enough! stop bombing my mailbox. calmly: as you gathered its happening here too. It looks like someone on the list is looping it! [EMAIL PROTECTED], perhaps? (sorry if I'm blaming the innocent) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Adir Abraham wrote: Have you got some base facts now, are you just trying to find black or are you And btw, aladdin is not a student, neither an active account. sheeps? On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Tzahi Fadida wrote: silence! i am trying to focus and try to see into the past. there i see it! its a bosmat server. it could be that one of the students made a mailing rule or something and forgot a computer open. * - * - * Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Cool Site: HTTP://WWW.My2Nis.Com * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html -Original Message- From: Adir Abraham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 1:04 AM To: Nadav Har'El Cc: Tzahi Fadida; Linux Mailing-List Subject: Re: what's going on with the list ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?!?!? How did you get into THAT email address..? (it's a machine I'm in charge on) On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Wed, Oct 02, 2002, Tzahi Fadida wrote about RE: what's going on with the list ?: yeah, enough is enough! stop bombing my mailbox. calmly: as you gathered its happening here too. It looks like someone on the list is looping it! [EMAIL PROTECTED], perhaps? (sorry if I'm blaming the innocent) -- Adir Abraham Technion's Advisors Group and Public PC Farms Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Haifa, Israel ICQ# 1841481 Cel# +972-53-243438, +972-55-481245 KeyID: 0xD8DC85C7 Fingerprint: 138D 8F41 7A06 44A0 3DBB 9DC3 FE8B 2658 -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com mQEPAzLax/sAAAEIAK2bI8utornDYd5LdU+/TABNmqXneiXuLx4j8OKD2GjfS/O8 E6nrX69ot4uU5ryjp5h+7VHBZqCQz+8VC8ly2ANtycejAc82gllVC96fbA+Y6uuN uI9aXkwNqhphmmQZIVaOZDRAo9//1zX9r41xY+8rKSQuNcp+FPD/A5Itng0xhsfS KkCV4tT0mGpiydUHFrugk/bouXPYwUHXSnHp/mPdGsjgqipezHPzCWIn3xcJjk2/ tjd5/ym+arWpKW5nvTuvalcMi2DIcEilSrT5NLwgeuh3eqitYOc9WTiMNMvUiVcP sucJkdxNwjEX9MgD/bLY9wT/13brqxk71tjchccAEQEAAbQnQWRpciBBYnJhaGFt IDxhZGlyQHZpcGUudGVjaG5pb24uYWMuaWw+iQEVAwUQMtrH+6sZO9bY3IXHAQGb 0gf9FwrJBKaTP0yvf3+vwtB+9ftS0woz1TawJwflC5EoHJs7D/5GzkAaRV82RSkH P9fSHmM+LUB0huBBK1qtNyXHWIjQTmYwFYC8Oen4q0Fyze7cloSnpD1rVjI0HoCO UU8bbz0Iseizdjhnl2PTItQ+dkKzLcww1jW5iPXOWd1o8/8s2aebhrpDRO8BfAYg H29jhmDtuVQDPgFfkN/kP+xpHQplMN5Qh1oP22f+Wyg8sVvSv8P7cM+88u46FHi3 zvHpVnZKIBtKhksnH1PYXtz7FvS7vA+MbpM47kgmQGL5Ygig0pUUbBCGlzmg2Hvd 262YCdVYNwpIjQWBLJI8orea0Q== =dgNP -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, Oct 02, 2002, Ishai Parasol wrote about what's going on with the list ?: Hi there Am I the only one who get the messages 20 times each ? Ishai. I'm getting this loop too :( I hope someone stops it soon... In the meantime, here's a trick for procmail users to get rid of those duplicates: either filter my Message-Id:, or more simply: filter out any linux-il message with more than one X-list: linux-il line! The mailing list owner can perhaps add X-list: linux-il to the list of taboo phrases for postings in this list, to get rid of this problem once and for all. -- Nadav Har'El| Thursday, Oct 3 2002, 27 Tishri 5763 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |Sign on a back of truck: Overtakers http://nadav.harel.org.il |beware, or you might meet the Undertaker = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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First of all, get ur english straight. i can't see anywhere that i mentioned you or someone at bosmat was guilty of something. could be != it is. Also, i might add. that if u are incharge of their server farms i would suggest that instead of trying to start a flame war against people who are trying to help solve the problem, check to see if its true in the morning. * - * - * Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Cool Site: HTTP://WWW.My2Nis.Com * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html -Original Message- From: Adir Abraham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:53 AM To: Tzahi Fadida Cc: Linux Mailing-List Subject: RE: what's going on with the list ? Are you trying to make some conspiracy? Have you got some base facts now, are you just trying to find black sheeps? On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Tzahi Fadida wrote: silence! i am trying to focus and try to see into the past. there i see it! its a bosmat server. it could be that one of the students made a mailing rule or something and forgot a computer open. * - * - * Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Cool Site: HTTP://WWW.My2Nis.Com * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html -Original Message- From: Adir Abraham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 1:04 AM To: Nadav Har'El Cc: Tzahi Fadida; Linux Mailing-List Subject: Re: what's going on with the list ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?!?!? How did you get into THAT email address..? (it's a machine I'm in charge on) On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Wed, Oct 02, 2002, Tzahi Fadida wrote about RE: what's going on with the list ?: yeah, enough is enough! stop bombing my mailbox. calmly: as you gathered its happening here too. It looks like someone on the list is looping it! [EMAIL PROTECTED], perhaps? (sorry if I'm blaming the innocent) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Are you trying to make some conspiracy? Have you got some base facts now, are you just trying to find black sheeps? On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Tzahi Fadida wrote: silence! i am trying to focus and try to see into the past. there i see it! its a bosmat server. it could be that one of the students made a mailing rule or something and forgot a computer open. * - * - * Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Cool Site: HTTP://WWW.My2Nis.Com * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html -Original Message- From: Adir Abraham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 1:04 AM To: Nadav Har'El Cc: Tzahi Fadida; Linux Mailing-List Subject: Re: what's going on with the list ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?!?!? How did you get into THAT email address..? (it's a machine I'm in charge on) On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Wed, Oct 02, 2002, Tzahi Fadida wrote about RE: what's going on with the list ?: yeah, enough is enough! stop bombing my mailbox. calmly: as you gathered its happening here too. It looks like someone on the list is looping it! [EMAIL PROTECTED], perhaps? (sorry if I'm blaming the innocent) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
