Why ??
just use wvdialconf ... Anyway, I suggested it for newbees and not for
people who know how to write their own pppd scripts.
Schlomo
On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, Oded Arbel wrote:
>
> On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:
> > How do customers get it?
> >
> > Schlomo Schapiro wrote:
> >
1. Installed by distro
2. download from some BBS with minicom
3. download to windows and copy from there (not SOO difficult)
4. Invite some computer tech to do the initial setup if the user doesn't
know how to do it (same as for windows).
5. And yes, since all the ISPs DO send CDs to their custom
On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:
> How do customers get it?
>
> Schlomo Schapiro wrote:
> > That's exactly why I suggested to know tools like wvdial. It doesn't
> > depend on a distro and is really newbee-safe in it's usage (assuming
> > newbee knows how to logon as root). I even us
On Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 03:15:32PM +0200, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:
>
> How do customers get it?
> Login from their Windows systems, download it and mount vfat partitions?
> Or maybe we're should send them CDs?
> It's really becomes a problem when the only way to help is via phone,
> and on the ot
How do customers get it?
Login from their Windows systems, download it and mount vfat partitions?
Or maybe we're should send them CDs?
It's really becomes a problem when the only way to help is via phone,
and on the other side of the line there's a newbie.
Schlomo Schapiro wrote:
> That's exactl
That's exactly why I suggested to know tools like wvdial. It doesn't
depend on a distro and is really newbee-safe in it's usage (assuming
newbee knows how to logon as root). I even use it myself if I want to dial
a one-time connection to some ppp server (like customers).
Schlomo
On Thu, 11 Nov 1
I'm pretty sure YAST comes with PPP setup tools, but having used SUSE
for only a short time, I just don't remember how can I guide a user
blindly (without knowing menus he sees). At the same time, I find it
easy
to guide RedHat users as they also have pppd by default and LinuxConf
which has PPP c
Hi,
sorry for interfereing in this nice thread, but why make life difficult ?
Simply tell people to use some simple shell-based dialer (like wvdial)
that does ALL this stuff. wvdial has been developed exactly for this
novice style of users and has a 'wizard' to help you set up your
connection.
You are all missing a point here.
The user calls up when he has a Linux system already set up.
With a clean Windows system, it's easy to guide the user through the
installation procedure, which is always the same, but with Linux -
should the tech support staff dictate the user their elite PPP ins
On 8 Nov 1999, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
> Omer Zak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Suggestion for a project for a youngster who is looking for a niche which
> > would give him satisfaction, fame and riches:
> >
> > How about developing PPP configuration scripts for the other
> > distributions?
Hi Omer,
On Mon, 8 Nov 1999, Omer Zak wrote:
> Given the realities of Customer Support as presented by Nir (isn't it
> wonderful to have access to someone who actually knows what is going on
> with customers? :-) ), I am amending my suggestion so that PPP
> configuration scripts (and other techn
Oleg Goldshmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> kill `ps auxw | grep [p]ppd | awk '{print $2}'`
just make it
kill `ps auxw | awk '/[p]ppd/ {print $2}'`
before someone else points it out ;-)
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Omer Zak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Suggestion for a project for a youngster who is looking for a niche which
> would give him satisfaction, fame and riches:
>
> How about developing PPP configuration scripts for the other
> distributions?
>
> Then the Technical Support would need only to te
Given the realities of Customer Support as presented by Nir (isn't it
wonderful to have access to someone who actually knows what is going on
with customers? :-) ), I am amending my suggestion so that PPP
configuration scripts (and other technical support scripts) would have a
version which doesn'
Hi Omer,
On Mon, 8 Nov 1999, Omer Zak wrote:
> Suggestion for a project for a youngster who is looking for a niche which
> would give him satisfaction, fame and riches:
> How about developing PPP configuration scripts for the other
> distributions?
> Then the Technical Support would need only to
Suggestion for a project for a youngster who is looking for a niche which
would give him satisfaction, fame and riches:
How about developing PPP configuration scripts for the other
distributions?
Then the Technical Support would need only to tell the newbie to download
the script from their Web
"Nir Simionovich (Rin Solo)" wrote:
> I know that I sound like I'm pro Netvision, but I'm really not. I'm very
> supportive to any firm who would offer Linux support. I admit that actcom
> were the first (I think), and amir is a good friend of mine (we've been
> working on Linux Installation p
Hi Dorit,
On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Dorit Ben-Shalom wrote:
> Again, what I am
> wondering about
> is what will happen to
> 'simple' linux calls.
Well, I don't know what you consider simple, but I've known people to
lose their heads about installation of sshd :-)
In any case, I don't belive that t
>they are about to start a Linux
>support center
They have.
2 weeks ago.
Free for another month,
then "a lot of money".
Again, what I am
wondering about
is what will happen to
'simple' linux calls.
Dorit
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Hi Guy,
On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, guy keren wrote:
> if netvision is intending to stop supporting linux similar to supporting
> windows, you don't have to use their services. some other ISPs happily
> support linux users.
That is funny, cause from a public announcement that Netvision gave.
They are
if netvision is intending to stop supporting linux similar to supporting
windows, you don't have to use their services. some other ISPs happily
support linux users.
note that i'm affiliated with one fo them, so i'm not objective..
guy
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