Re: firefox and Bank Leumi web site
Just to let you know, there are problems with Bank Hapoalim and Firefox too. The bank uses Visual Hebrew, which makes it hard to copy paste text. For example: ךרע תוריינב הקסע עוציב is after I copy paste to Gmail. Most pages are viewable, but there are some problems with some of the pages. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: firefox and Bank Leumi web site
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009, Rafi Gordon wrote about firefox and Bank Leumi web site: I saw that Bank Leumi web site is alleged to finally support FireFox under Linux. .. I would like to hear if anyone has had any experience with it lately. The sad truth is that it almost works under Firefox. Close, but no cigar. When you start using it, you get the impression that it works. You can do view your balance and do a couple of other things that everyone checks at first. But then you start to discover things that simply do not function. For example, you cannot buy or sell stocks (or bonds, mutual funds, and so on). Some convenience buttons that work on IE simply don't work on Firefox. So the situation is better than it used to be (previously, it wasn't even possible to login using Firefox), but there's still some way to go before you could use just Firefox to access Bank Leumi's site. -- Nadav Har'El| Tuesday, Dec 15 2009, 28 Kislev 5770 n...@math.technion.ac.il |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |Always go to other people's funerals, http://nadav.harel.org.il |otherwise they won't come to yours. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: firefox and Bank Leumi web site
Following Shlomi's (?) preaching about taking your business away from banks which don't support standards, I'd like to recommend (again) on First International Bank (aka FIBI), with which I do business through Firefox on Linux for maybe ten years now, and I think also Hamizrachi bank supports Firefox well. -Amos On 12/16/09, Nadav Har'El n...@math.technion.ac.il wrote: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009, Rafi Gordon wrote about firefox and Bank Leumi web site: I saw that Bank Leumi web site is alleged to finally support FireFox under Linux. .. I would like to hear if anyone has had any experience with it lately. The sad truth is that it almost works under Firefox. Close, but no cigar. When you start using it, you get the impression that it works. You can do view your balance and do a couple of other things that everyone checks at first. But then you start to discover things that simply do not function. For example, you cannot buy or sell stocks (or bonds, mutual funds, and so on). Some convenience buttons that work on IE simply don't work on Firefox. So the situation is better than it used to be (previously, it wasn't even possible to login using Firefox), but there's still some way to go before you could use just Firefox to access Bank Leumi's site. -- Nadav Har'El| Tuesday, Dec 15 2009, 28 Kislev 5770 n...@math.technion.ac.il |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |Always go to other people's funerals, http://nadav.harel.org.il |otherwise they won't come to yours. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: firefox and Bank Leumi web site
do you try and manage to buy/sell stocks/bonds/whatever via firefox via fibi's web site, and use search mechanisms during these operations? --guy Amos Shapira wrote: Following Shlomi's (?) preaching about taking your business away from banks which don't support standards, I'd like to recommend (again) on First International Bank (aka FIBI), with which I do business through Firefox on Linux for maybe ten years now, and I think also Hamizrachi bank supports Firefox well. -Amos On 12/16/09, Nadav Har'El n...@math.technion.ac.il wrote: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009, Rafi Gordon wrote about firefox and Bank Leumi web site: I saw that Bank Leumi web site is alleged to finally support FireFox under Linux. .. I would like to hear if anyone has had any experience with it lately. The sad truth is that it almost works under Firefox. Close, but no cigar. When you start using it, you get the impression that it works. You can do view your balance and do a couple of other things that everyone checks at first. But then you start to discover things that simply do not function. For example, you cannot buy or sell stocks (or bonds, mutual funds, and so on). Some convenience buttons that work on IE simply don't work on Firefox. So the situation is better than it used to be (previously, it wasn't even possible to login using Firefox), but there's still some way to go before you could use just Firefox to access Bank Leumi's site. -- Nadav Har'El| Tuesday, Dec 15 2009, 28 Kislev 5770 n...@math.technion.ac.il |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |Always go to other people's funerals, http://nadav.harel.org.il |otherwise they won't come to yours. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: firefox and Bank Leumi web site
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 01:13:13AM +0200, guy keren wrote: do you try and manage to buy/sell stocks/bonds/whatever via firefox via fibi's web site, and use search mechanisms during these operations? I do both of these via fibi's website. Everything I've tried so far works on firefox (multiple versions). Cheers, Muli -- Muli Ben-Yehuda | m...@il.ibm.com | +972-4-8281080 Manager, Virtualization and Systems Architecture Master Inventor, IBM Research -- Haifa Second Workshop on I/O Virtualization (WIOV '10): http://sysrun.haifa.il.ibm.com/hrl/wiov2010/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: firefox and Bank Leumi web site
Amos Shapira wrote: Following Shlomi's (?) preaching about taking your business away from banks which don't support standards, I'd like to recommend (again) on First International Bank (aka FIBI), with which I do business through Firefox on Linux for maybe ten years now, and I think also Hamizrachi bank supports Firefox well. -Amos While on that thread, Discount bank has what appears to be pretty good support for Firefox. I neither buy nor sell stocks, so I don't know how well that works, but they officially support it. I should point out that, technically, my browser is iceweasel, and they block me. In order for the site to work, I have to spoof my user agent, for the sake of the login screen only, to say that I am running Firefox on Linux. After that, everything works with my default user agent as well. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd. http://www.lingnu.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: firefox and Bank Leumi web site
Guy, First thanks a lot for your detailed answer. p.s. why do you want to register to their digital services? it looks like a rip-off. I do not know much about their digital services, it was once offered to me and they could not answer me at that time whether they support firefox or not, so I did not asked for further any details about their services. I thought of using their digital services for buying/selling stocks and also performing deposits (hafkadot) to pakam (though rarely used recently). Rafi On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:52 PM, guy keren c...@actcom.co.il wrote: Rafi Gordon wrote: Hello, I saw that Bank Leumi web site is alleged to finally support FireFox under Linux. see: http://twitter.com/haizaar/status/5923095225 I would like to hear if anyone has had any experience with it lately. I don't want to use ie6 and I would like to get feedback about accessing Bank Leumi web site with FireFox under Linux before subscribing to their digital services. (I don't have Windows, so the option of accessing bank leumi site from internet explorer is not relevant for me). they work for simple operations (see what's going in your account, read letters, etc.). their trading services do NOT work with firefox under linux. you can see your portfolio - but you cannot buy/sell and you cannot view specific stocks. plus you keep get an error popup every minute while just viewing your portfolio staying News not found (you get the same popup if you try to click on any java-script-based button in the trading part of their site). note: it does with with IE6 on windows 98 (albeit with some problems here and there). p.s. why do you want to register to their digital services? it looks like a rip-off. --guy ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: firefox and Bank Leumi web site
On Friday 11 Dec 2009 10:17:37 Amos Shapira wrote: 2009/12/11 Rafi Gordon rafigor...@gmail.com I would like to hear if anyone has had any experience with it lately. I don't want to use ie6 and I would like to get feedback about accessing Bank Leumi web site with FireFox under Linux before subscribing to their digital services. (I don't have Windows, so the option of accessing bank leumi site from internet explorer is not relevant for me). Not to dish Firefox (which is my current browser) but I just read in responses to the Chrome Linux Beta announcement in the Israeli media that it supports Hebrew sites pretty well, even those which are IE only. I wouldn't recommend to encourage web-designers to create web-sites that are not compatible with Firefox due to being non-standard. By all means, they should check their sites with Firefox, or alternatively suffer the constant complaints of people who don't use it and the loss of visitors and customers. There's no excuse to keeping non-standard web-sites broken just because they're working with MSIE or other non-standard browsers. It might be worth a consideration too, in addition to Konquerer. I would recommend against Konqueror. It tends to break even on fully standard sites (much more than Firefox) due to its numerous bugs, and has been heavily under-maintained lately. There are some other browsers based on WebKit around, which should be less buggy. The only matter which stops me from trying Chrome further right now is that it doesn't save password encrypted on Linux, with no positive response from Google in sight. Good luck on getting a response from Google. I've waited for several months on trying to get a human response from AdSense, and didn't eventually, despite the fact I've tried everything I could think of: http://community.livejournal.com/shlomif_hsite/11327.html I would expect them to be even less responsive for Chrome/Chromium which brings them absolutely zero revenue. Is Chrome Beta available for distributions other than Ubuntu? (Like Mandriva which I use.) And finally there's this: http://lwn.net/Articles/364528/ Quoting from it: Fedora engineering manager Tom spot Callaway looks at Chromium development on his blog. Specifically, he has been building Chromium from source and makes it available for Fedoras 10-12, but hasn't packaged it up officially; in the blog post, he outlines reasons why. Google is forking existing FOSS code bits for Chromium like a rabbit makes babies: frequently, and usually, without much thought. Rather than leverage the existing APIs from upstream projects like icu, libjingle, and sqlite (just to name a few), they simply fork a point in time of that code and hack their API to shreds for chromium to use. This is akin to much of the Java methodology, which I can sum up as 'I'd like to use this third-party code, but my application is too special to use it as is, so I covered it with Bedazzler Jewels and Neon Underlighting, then bury my blinged out copy in my application.'. A fair amount of the upstream Chromium devs seem to have Java backgrounds, which may explain this behavior, but it does not excuse it. This behavior should be a last resort, not a first instinct. Regards, Shlomi Fish --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ What Makes Software Apps High Quality - http://shlom.in/sw-quality Bzr is slower than Subversion in combination with Sourceforge. ( By: http://dazjorz.com/ ) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
[OT]:Re: firefox and Bank Leumi web site
if are a bank-leumi customer and want to work via the internet - just ask them to grant you access. don't let them sell you any digital services extra thing - it appears to be beneficial only if you do a LOT of transactions every month - and by doing a lot of transactions, you save peanuts per transaction - but you pay much more in total - and you perform operations that anyone other then a day-trader has no reason to do - and day-traders would do much better to open an account with a private investing bank - they take _much_ lower payments per transaction. regarding _doing_ stocks/bonds/whatever transactions - as i said, it doesn't work with firefox on linux. when i wrote to them about it a long time ago - they mumbled something about not supporting firefox. i didn't see any change in their policy since then. i do the transactions via IE6 running on win98 (that's the last version of windows i bought) running inside a virtual machine. it works, albeit not too nicely (a lot of refreshes that make it quite painfully slow). --guy Rafi Gordon wrote: Guy, First thanks a lot for your detailed answer. p.s. why do you want to register to their digital services? it looks like a rip-off. I do not know much about their digital services, it was once offered to me and they could not answer me at that time whether they support firefox or not, so I did not asked for further any details about their services. I thought of using their digital services for buying/selling stocks and also performing deposits (hafkadot) to pakam (though rarely used recently). Rafi On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:52 PM, guy keren c...@actcom.co.il wrote: Rafi Gordon wrote: Hello, I saw that Bank Leumi web site is alleged to finally support FireFox under Linux. see: http://twitter.com/haizaar/status/5923095225 I would like to hear if anyone has had any experience with it lately. I don't want to use ie6 and I would like to get feedback about accessing Bank Leumi web site with FireFox under Linux before subscribing to their digital services. (I don't have Windows, so the option of accessing bank leumi site from internet explorer is not relevant for me). they work for simple operations (see what's going in your account, read letters, etc.). their trading services do NOT work with firefox under linux. you can see your portfolio - but you cannot buy/sell and you cannot view specific stocks. plus you keep get an error popup every minute while just viewing your portfolio staying News not found (you get the same popup if you try to click on any java-script-based button in the trading part of their site). note: it does with with IE6 on windows 98 (albeit with some problems here and there). p.s. why do you want to register to their digital services? it looks like a rip-off. --guy ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: firefox and Bank Leumi web site
On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 07:25 +0200, Rafi Gordon wrote: Hello, I saw that Bank Leumi web site is alleged to finally support FireFox under Linux. see: http://twitter.com/haizaar/status/5923095225 I would like to hear if anyone has had any experience with it lately. I don't want to use ie6 and I would like to get feedback about accessing Bank Leumi web site with FireFox under Linux before subscribing to their digital services. (I don't have Windows, so the option of accessing bank leumi site from internet explorer is not relevant for me). Around ~1 year ago, Leumi introduced their premium site, that was fully FF compatible. (End-to-end) However, one had to specifically ask (multiple times) in-order to gain access to this site. I assume that Leumi finally flipped the switch and let everyone use their new site. Now if only Leumi-card will move to a new FF-friendly site... - Gilboa ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: firefox and Bank Leumi web site
2009/12/11 Rafi Gordon rafigor...@gmail.com I would like to hear if anyone has had any experience with it lately. I don't want to use ie6 and I would like to get feedback about accessing Bank Leumi web site with FireFox under Linux before subscribing to their digital services. (I don't have Windows, so the option of accessing bank leumi site from internet explorer is not relevant for me). Not to dish Firefox (which is my current browser) but I just read in responses to the Chrome Linux Beta announcement in the Israeli media that it supports Hebrew sites pretty well, even those which are IE only. It might be worth a consideration too, in addition to Konquerer. The only matter which stops me from trying Chrome further right now is that it doesn't save password encrypted on Linux, with no positive response from Google in sight. --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: firefox and Bank Leumi web site
Rafi Gordon wrote: Hello, I saw that Bank Leumi web site is alleged to finally support FireFox under Linux. see: http://twitter.com/haizaar/status/5923095225 I would like to hear if anyone has had any experience with it lately. I don't want to use ie6 and I would like to get feedback about accessing Bank Leumi web site with FireFox under Linux before subscribing to their digital services. (I don't have Windows, so the option of accessing bank leumi site from internet explorer is not relevant for me). they work for simple operations (see what's going in your account, read letters, etc.). their trading services do NOT work with firefox under linux. you can see your portfolio - but you cannot buy/sell and you cannot view specific stocks. plus you keep get an error popup every minute while just viewing your portfolio staying News not found (you get the same popup if you try to click on any java-script-based button in the trading part of their site). note: it does with with IE6 on windows 98 (albeit with some problems here and there). p.s. why do you want to register to their digital services? it looks like a rip-off. --guy ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
firefox and Bank Leumi web site
Hello, I saw that Bank Leumi web site is alleged to finally support FireFox under Linux. see: http://twitter.com/haizaar/status/5923095225 I would like to hear if anyone has had any experience with it lately. I don't want to use ie6 and I would like to get feedback about accessing Bank Leumi web site with FireFox under Linux before subscribing to their digital services. (I don't have Windows, so the option of accessing bank leumi site from internet explorer is not relevant for me). rgs, Rafi ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: firefox and Bank Leumi web site
Hi Rafi,
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 07:25:27AM +0200, Rafi Gordon wrote:
I saw that Bank Leumi web site is alleged to
finally support FireFox under Linux.
see:
http://twitter.com/haizaar/status/5923095225
I would like to hear if anyone has had any experience with it lately.
I don't want to use
ie6 and I would like to get feedback about accessing
Bank Leumi web site with FireFox under Linux before subscribing to
their digital services. (I don't have Windows, so the option
of accessing bank leumi site from internet explorer is not relevant for me).
I use Firefox under Linux to access my account at Leumi with no compatibility
problems.
baruch
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