Re: Ever wanted to have a lawyer at your mercy?
2) regarding apps attractive to lawyers: gnucash (though I have problems with it on RH 8.0 ). So that what you think of lawyer?;) Ely = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Alexander Maryanovsky wrote: If anyone knows how to build a custom RedHat install CD set with add/replaced packages kindly contact me in person. Why not share it with the list? I for one would love to get my hands on a distro specifically customized for Hebrew speaking users and/or Israeli residents. The RedHat CD Howto was updated for RH 8.0: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/RedHat-CD-HOWTO/ Anyway, to create a custom Mandrake CD, you can use the scripts in the Misc subdirectory of the first CD, or the ftp site (Not starting a distro flamewar, just want to provide information relevant to the new subject) -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ever wanted to have a lawyer at your mercy?
On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Guy Baruch wrote: 2) regarding apps attractive to lawyers: gnucash (though I have problems with it on RH 8.0 ). gnupg and encryption. I suggest demonstrating : email signing email encryption. whole file-system encryption. perhaps gnu-keyring ? i think perhaps a very interesting 'app' for them will be the various licenses of free source (GPL, LGPL, BSD, X11 and so on). if only a few will start checking these licenses out, there's a chance that in time we'll have more lawyers capable of answering questions related to using free software in commercial places (i'm talking from a project development point of view - of using free software inside company products, not from a sys admin's point of view). -- guy For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator. -- nob o. dy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ever wanted to have a lawyer at your mercy?
I have a question. Well, actually it's 2 questions. 1. Can one (as a person who installs linux) be protected against lawsuit if one manages to break something during the install process ? Remember those are lawyers, so there is huge chance that something like that may happen. 2. Is this bar provides a free drinks ? :- - Original Message - From: Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Raft of Circumcised Penguins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 9:02 PM Subject: Ever wanted to have a lawyer at your mercy? Now you can - Introducing the Linux installation and demonstration party for lawyers, hosted by the Israeli bar... :-) Where: Somewhere in Tel-Aviv, I'm still not sure where. When: December 2nd, 15:30. What: Recently the Israeli bar have passed a decision to use Open Source Software as much as possible for their activities. To help promote this great idea Adv. Haim Ravia has organised a Linux installation party and demonstration as part of a law confrence held by the bar (he will also give a lecture about the legal implications of Open Source at said confrence). He has asked our help in organising the event. Details: Because of the obviously non technical crowd involved we've decided to settle on a default configuration of RedHat 8.0. This does not mean that if someone will insist of having anything else installed we would say no, just that for simplicity we would default to installing this specific distribution and not ask the victim^H^H^H^H client what to install. Remember - these people has no idea what Linux is at all... We also want to add some helpful specific applications, like OpenOffice with bidi support beta, ADSL connection scripts , the free Hebrew fonts etc. If anyone knows how to build a custom RedHat install CD set with add/replaced packages kindly contact me in person. In addition to installing Linux for anyone interested, we also thought to have a demonstration display of Linux in action that will include bidi-OpenOffice and usinh Linux for email and web surfing. Thanks to the efforts of Shachar Shemesh we will also demonstrate at the event the legal software Pad-Or running under Wine (don't worry, the copy we use has been given us by Pad-Or themselves for this specific purpose and they helped Shcahr get it working too :-) . If anyone has any additional ideas for demonstration *that would be attractive to lawyers* kindly let me know. Cheers, Gilad. -- Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://benyossef.com Geeks rock bands cool name #8192: RAID against the machine = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ever wanted to have a lawyer at your mercy?
If anyone knows how to build a custom RedHat install CD set with add/replaced packages kindly contact me in person. Why not share it with the list? I for one would love to get my hands on a distro specifically customized for Hebrew speaking users and/or Israeli residents. Alexander Maryanovsky. At 21:02 27.11.2002 +0200, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Now you can - Introducing the Linux installation and demonstration party for lawyers, hosted by the Israeli bar... :-) Where: Somewhere in Tel-Aviv, I'm still not sure where. When: December 2nd, 15:30. What: Recently the Israeli bar have passed a decision to use Open Source Software as much as possible for their activities. To help promote this great idea Adv. Haim Ravia has organised a Linux installation party and demonstration as part of a law confrence held by the bar (he will also give a lecture about the legal implications of Open Source at said confrence). He has asked our help in organising the event. Details: Because of the obviously non technical crowd involved we've decided to settle on a default configuration of RedHat 8.0. This does not mean that if someone will insist of having anything else installed we would say no, just that for simplicity we would default to installing this specific distribution and not ask the victim^H^H^H^H client what to install. Remember - these people has no idea what Linux is at all... We also want to add some helpful specific applications, like OpenOffice with bidi support beta, ADSL connection scripts , the free Hebrew fonts etc. If anyone knows how to build a custom RedHat install CD set with add/replaced packages kindly contact me in person. In addition to installing Linux for anyone interested, we also thought to have a demonstration display of Linux in action that will include bidi-OpenOffice and usinh Linux for email and web surfing. Thanks to the efforts of Shachar Shemesh we will also demonstrate at the event the legal software Pad-Or running under Wine (don't worry, the copy we use has been given us by Pad-Or themselves for this specific purpose and they helped Shcahr get it working too :-) . If anyone has any additional ideas for demonstration *that would be attractive to lawyers* kindly let me know. Cheers, Gilad. -- Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://benyossef.com Geeks rock bands cool name #8192: RAID against the machine = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ever wanted to have a lawyer at your mercy?
On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 22:21, Oleg Kobets wrote: I have a question. Well, actually it's 2 questions. 1. Can one (as a person who installs linux) be protected against lawsuit if one manages to break something during the install process ? Remember those are lawyers, so there is huge chance that something like that may happen. At every instaparty we have a form that every person signs before anyone touches his computer that sepcifically absolves the installers from any and and all responsability. Since in this specific event the organiser is a lawyer as well (Adv. Haim Ravia) I'm sure the form will be adquatly phrased ;-) 2. Is this bar provides a free drinks ? :- The bar is of coruse the name of the lawyers guild. However, as I told some members of the list in various occasions already, I have a long lived dream of opening a bar named Stallman's - where the speech is free but the beer isn't :-) Gilad. -- Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://benyossef.com Geeks rock bands cool name #8192: RAID against the machine = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ever wanted to have a lawyer at your mercy?
On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 23:01, Alexander Maryanovsky wrote: If anyone knows how to build a custom RedHat install CD set with add/replaced packages kindly contact me in person. Why not share it with the list? I for one would love to get my hands on a distro specifically customized for Hebrew speaking users and/or Israeli residents. Of course the results will be shared with anyone who wants it. Anyway, my plan was simply to replace the openoffice version shipped with RH8.0 with the latest developers released or the bidi-openoffice version and add a couple of RPMs of the culmous free Hebrew fonts and the ADSL conenct scripts (and maybe a custom background :-) but nothing more then that. AFAIK there is a project by Meir Kricheli and others to build something closer to what you want but it was my impression that it's still not in a state to install it on some complete newbie machine. 'd love to be correct on this one... Gilad. Alexander Maryanovsky. At 21:02 27.11.2002 +0200, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Now you can - Introducing the Linux installation and demonstration party for lawyers, hosted by the Israeli bar... :-) Where: Somewhere in Tel-Aviv, I'm still not sure where. When: December 2nd, 15:30. What: Recently the Israeli bar have passed a decision to use Open Source Software as much as possible for their activities. To help promote this great idea Adv. Haim Ravia has organised a Linux installation party and demonstration as part of a law confrence held by the bar (he will also give a lecture about the legal implications of Open Source at said confrence). He has asked our help in organising the event. Details: Because of the obviously non technical crowd involved we've decided to settle on a default configuration of RedHat 8.0. This does not mean that if someone will insist of having anything else installed we would say no, just that for simplicity we would default to installing this specific distribution and not ask the victim^H^H^H^H client what to install. Remember - these people has no idea what Linux is at all... We also want to add some helpful specific applications, like OpenOffice with bidi support beta, ADSL connection scripts , the free Hebrew fonts etc. If anyone knows how to build a custom RedHat install CD set with add/replaced packages kindly contact me in person. In addition to installing Linux for anyone interested, we also thought to have a demonstration display of Linux in action that will include bidi-OpenOffice and usinh Linux for email and web surfing. Thanks to the efforts of Shachar Shemesh we will also demonstrate at the event the legal software Pad-Or running under Wine (don't worry, the copy we use has been given us by Pad-Or themselves for this specific purpose and they helped Shcahr get it working too :-) . If anyone has any additional ideas for demonstration *that would be attractive to lawyers* kindly let me know. Cheers, Gilad. -- Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://benyossef.com Geeks rock bands cool name #8192: RAID against the machine = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://benyossef.com Geeks rock bands cool name #8192: RAID against the machine = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ever wanted to have a lawyer at your mercy?
On Wednesday 27 November 2002 21:06, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 23:01, Alexander Maryanovsky wrote: If anyone knows how to build a custom RedHat install CD set with add/replaced packages kindly contact me in person. Why not share it with the list? I for one would love to get my hands on a distro specifically customized for Hebrew speaking users and/or Israeli residents. Of course the results will be shared with anyone who wants it. Anyway, my plan was simply to replace the openoffice version shipped with RH8.0 with the latest developers released or the bidi-openoffice version and add a couple of RPMs of the culmous free Hebrew fonts and the ADSL conenct scripts (and maybe a custom background :-) but nothing more then that. AFAIK there is a project by Meir Kricheli and others to build something closer to what you want but it was my impression that it's still not in a state to install it on some complete newbie machine. 'd love to be correct on this one... Gilad. Not it is not ready yet, we still have a long way to go. Alexander Maryanovsky. At 21:02 27.11.2002 +0200, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Now you can - Introducing the Linux installation and demonstration party for lawyers, hosted by the Israeli bar... :-) Where: Somewhere in Tel-Aviv, I'm still not sure where. When: December 2nd, 15:30. What: Recently the Israeli bar have passed a decision to use Open Source Software as much as possible for their activities. To help promote this great idea Adv. Haim Ravia has organised a Linux installation party and demonstration as part of a law confrence held by the bar (he will also give a lecture about the legal implications of Open Source at said confrence). He has asked our help in organising the event. Details: Because of the obviously non technical crowd involved we've decided to settle on a default configuration of RedHat 8.0. This does not mean that if someone will insist of having anything else installed we would say no, just that for simplicity we would default to installing this specific distribution and not ask the victim^H^H^H^H client what to install. Remember - these people has no idea what Linux is at all... We also want to add some helpful specific applications, like OpenOffice with bidi support beta, ADSL connection scripts , the free Hebrew fonts etc. If anyone knows how to build a custom RedHat install CD set with add/replaced packages kindly contact me in person. In addition to installing Linux for anyone interested, we also thought to have a demonstration display of Linux in action that will include bidi-OpenOffice and usinh Linux for email and web surfing. Thanks to the efforts of Shachar Shemesh we will also demonstrate at the event the legal software Pad-Or running under Wine (don't worry, the copy we use has been given us by Pad-Or themselves for this specific purpose and they helped Shcahr get it working too :-) . If anyone has any additional ideas for demonstration *that would be attractive to lawyers* kindly let me know. Cheers, Gilad. -- Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://benyossef.com Geeks rock bands cool name #8192: RAID against the machine = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Meir Kriheli MKsoft systems http://www.mksoft.co.il = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ever wanted to have a lawyer at your mercy?
1) regarding liability: arrange with some company to sell HDs _on localation_ and give them the option of installing on existing HD (potentially dangerous etc.) or buy a second, cheap HD (safer). 2) regarding apps attractive to lawyers: gnucash (though I have problems with it on RH 8.0 ). gnupg and encryption. I suggest demonstrating : email signing email encryption. whole file-system encryption. perhaps gnu-keyring ? 3) I vaguely recall something about Prof. L. Lessig participating in some kind of legal commons initiative of sorts. I'm not sure How it was called and what happened to it since, but a knowledgeable person (pref. lawyer ...) giving a lecture seems appropriate. Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: When: December 2nd, 15:30. that's cutting it a bit close, no ? -- -- regards +--- + Guy Baruch , Plasma Laboratory, Weizmann Institue. + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] + phone: 972-8-934-2211 +--- They hang the man and flog the woman That steal the goose from off the common, But let the greater villain loose That steals the common from the goose. -- English folk poem, circa 1764 http://bostonreview.mit.edu/BR27.3/bollier.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
