Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 10:17:15AM +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: Le jeudi 07 avril 2005 à 10:04 +0200, David Schmitt a écrit : Then I would like to exercise my right under the GPL to aquire the source code for the firmware (and the required compilers, starting with genfw.c which is

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Xavier Bestel
Le jeudi 07 avril 2005 10:32 +0200, Olivier Galibert a crit : On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 10:17:15AM +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: Le jeudi 07 avril 2005 10:04 +0200, David Schmitt a crit : Then I would like to exercise my right under the GPL to aquire the source code for the firmware

Re: Kernel SCM saga..

2005-04-07 Thread Paul Mackerras
Andrew Morton writes: The problem with those is letting other people get access to it. I guess that could be fixed with a bit of scripting and rsyncing. Yes. (I don't do that for -mm because -mm basically doesn't work for 99% of the time. Takes 4-5 hours to out a release out assuming that

Re: Kernel SCM saga..

2005-04-07 Thread David Woodhouse
On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 01:50 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: (I don't do that for -mm because -mm basically doesn't work for 99% of the time. Takes 4-5 hours to out a release out assuming that nothing's busted, and usually something is). On the subject of -mm: are you going to keep doing the BK

Re: [PATCH] Dynamic Tick version 050406-1

2005-04-07 Thread Alexander Nyberg
Here's an updated dyn-tick patch. Some minor fixes: Doesn't look so good here. I get this with 2.6.12-rc2 (plus a few other patches). Disabling Dynamic Tick makes everything happy again (it boots). [4294688.655000] Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Jeff Garzik
Eric W. Biederman wrote: Arjan van de Ven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 11:11 +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 09:49:25AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: I don't think you did get a rejection, a few people said that _they_ weren't going to do it, but if you

Re: Kernel SCM saga..

2005-04-07 Thread David Vrabel
Andrew Morton wrote: David Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One feature I'd want to see in a replacement version control system is the ability to _re-order_ patches, and to cherry-pick patches from my tree to be sent onwards. You just described quilt patch-scripts. The problem with

Re: [PATCH] i2c: new driver for ds1337 RTC

2005-04-07 Thread Ladislav Michl
On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 03:23:11PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: ChangeSet 1.2331, 2005/03/31 14:08:02-08:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [PATCH] i2c: new driver for ds1337 RTC Hi, I know it is bad time to send any patches, but lets try anyway :) My embedded device is using DS1339 I2C RTC clock which differs

Re: Kernel SCM saga..

2005-04-07 Thread Andrew Morton
Paul Mackerras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With -mm we get those nice little automatic emails saying you've put the patch into -mm, which removes one of the main reasons for wanting to be able to get an up-to-date image of your tree. Should have done that ages ago.. The other reason, of

Re: Kernel SCM saga..

2005-04-07 Thread Andrew Morton
David Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 01:50 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: (I don't do that for -mm because -mm basically doesn't work for 99% of the time. Takes 4-5 hours to out a release out assuming that nothing's busted, and usually something is). On the

Re: [Fwd: Re: connector is missing in 2.6.12-rc2-mm1]

2005-04-07 Thread Evgeniy Polyakov
On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 10:12 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 12:13 +0400, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote: The main idea was to simplify userspace control and notification system - so people did not waste it's time learning how skb's are allocated and processed, how socket layer is

Re: [08/08] uml: va_copy fix

2005-04-07 Thread Renate Meijer
On Apr 6, 2005, at 9:09 PM, Blaisorblade wrote: For Jörn Engel and the issue he opened: at the end of this mail I describe another bug caught by 2.95 and not by 3.x. On Tuesday 05 April 2005 22:18, Renate Meijer wrote: On Apr 5, 2005, at 8:53 PM, Blaisorblade wrote: On Tuesday 05 April 2005

Re: Kernel SCM saga..

2005-04-07 Thread Russell King
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 10:25:18AM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 01:50 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: (I don't do that for -mm because -mm basically doesn't work for 99% of the time. Takes 4-5 hours to out a release out assuming that nothing's busted, and usually

[PATCH] Use proper seq_file api for /proc/scsi/scsi

2005-04-07 Thread Hannes Reinecke
Hi all, /proc/scsi/scsi currently has a very dumb implementation of the seq_file api which causes 'cat /proc/scsi/scsi' to return with -ENOMEM when a large amount of devices are connected. This patch impelements the proper seq_file interface which prints out all devices sequentially. The use of

Re: [PATCH] i2c: new driver for ds1337 RTC

2005-04-07 Thread Jean Delvare
Hi Ladislav, I know it is bad time to send any patches, but lets try anyway :) My embedded device is using DS1339 I2C RTC clock which differs from DS1337 only in one register at address 10h which enables battery charge. Originaly I was using my own driver, but decided to extend existing

Re: [Fwd: Re: connector is missing in 2.6.12-rc2-mm1]

2005-04-07 Thread Evgeniy Polyakov
On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 01:32 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: Evgeniy Polyakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plus, I'm still quite unsettled about the whole object lifecycle management, refcounting and locking in there. The fact that the code is littered with peculiar barriers says something

2.6.12-rc2 in_atomic() picks up preempt_disable()

2005-04-07 Thread Keith Owens
2.6.12-rc2, with CONFIG_PREEMPT and CONFIG_PREEMPT_DEBUG. The in_atomic() macro thinks that preempt_disable() indicates an atomic region so calls to __might_sleep() result in a stack trace. preempt_count() returns 1, no soft or hard irqs are running and no spinlocks are held. It looks like there

Re: Kernel SCM saga..

2005-04-07 Thread David Woodhouse
On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 10:55 +0100, Russell King wrote: Thinking about it a bit, if you're asking Linus to pull your tree, Linus would then have to extract the individual change sets as patches to put into his new fangled patch management system. Is that a reasonable expectation? I don't know

Re: [PATCH 2/6] freepgt2: sys_mincore ignore FIRST_USER_PGD_NR

2005-04-07 Thread David Howells
Hugh Dickins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remove use of FIRST_USER_PGD_NR from sys_mincore: it's inconsistent (no other syscall refers to it), unnecessary (sys_mincore loops over vmas further down) and incorrect (misses user addresses in ARM's first pgd). You should make it use

Re: 2.6.12-rc2 in_atomic() picks up preempt_disable()

2005-04-07 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 20:10 +1000, Keith Owens wrote: 2.6.12-rc2, with CONFIG_PREEMPT and CONFIG_PREEMPT_DEBUG. The in_atomic() macro thinks that preempt_disable() indicates an atomic region so calls to __might_sleep() result in a stack trace. but you're not allowed to schedule when preempt

Re: 2.6.12-rc2 in_atomic() picks up preempt_disable()

2005-04-07 Thread Andrew Morton
Keith Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2.6.12-rc2, with CONFIG_PREEMPT and CONFIG_PREEMPT_DEBUG. The in_atomic() macro thinks that preempt_disable() indicates an atomic region so calls to __might_sleep() result in a stack trace. preempt_count() returns 1, no soft or hard irqs are running and

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 05:34:56AM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: For tg3 a transition period shouldn't be needed as firmware loading is only needed on old/buggy hardware which is not the common case. Or to support advanced features which can be disabled. TSO firmware is commonly used these days.

Re: [PATCH] Use proper seq_file api for /proc/scsi/scsi

2005-04-07 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 11:46:27AM +0200, Hannes Reinecke wrote: Hi all, /proc/scsi/scsi currently has a very dumb implementation of the seq_file api which causes 'cat /proc/scsi/scsi' to return with -ENOMEM when a large amount of devices are connected. /proc/scsi/scsi is deprecated and

Re: Kernel SCM saga..

2005-04-07 Thread Matthias Andree
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005, Sergei Organov wrote: David Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 08:42 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: PS. Don't bother telling me about subversion. If you must, start reading up on monotone. That seems to be the most viable alternative, but don't

Re: [Fwd: Re: connector is missing in 2.6.12-rc2-mm1]

2005-04-07 Thread Kay Sievers
On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 13:52 +0400, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote: On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 10:12 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 12:13 +0400, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote: The main idea was to simplify userspace control and notification system - so people did not waste it's time learning

Re: Kernel SCM saga..

2005-04-07 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, Paul Mackerras wrote: Andrew Morton writes: The problem with those is letting other people get access to it. I guess that could be fixed with a bit of scripting and rsyncing. Yes. Me too ;-) (I don't do that for -mm because -mm basically doesn't work for 99% of the

Re: Kernel SCM saga..

2005-04-07 Thread Andrew Walrond
I recently switched from bk to darcs (actually looked into it after the author mentioned on LKML that he had imported the kernel tree). Very impressed so far, but as you say, 1. It's rather slow and quite CPU consuming and certainly I/O consuming I expect something as large as the kernel tree

Re: Kernel SCM saga..

2005-04-07 Thread Andrew Walrond
On Wednesday 06 April 2005 16:42, Linus Torvalds wrote: PS. Don't bother telling me about subversion. If you must, start reading up on monotone. That seems to be the most viable alternative, but don't pester the developers so much that they don't get any work done. They are already aware of

Re: crash in entry.S restore_all, 2.6.12-rc2, x86, PAGEALLOC

2005-04-07 Thread Andrew Morton
Ingo Molnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- linux/arch/i386/kernel/entry.S.orig +++ linux/arch/i386/kernel/entry.S @@ -179,12 +179,17 @@ need_resched: ENTRY(sysenter_entry) movl TSS_sysenter_esp0(%esp),%esp sysenter_past_esp: -sti +# +# irqs are disabled: set up

Re: Kernel SCM saga..

2005-04-07 Thread Paul Mackerras
Andrew Morton writes: The other reason, of course, is to be able to see if a patch I'm about to send conflicts with something you have already taken, and rebase it if necessary. hack, hack How's this? Nice; but in fact I meant that I want to be able to see if a patch of mine

Re: alsa es1371's joystick functionality broken in 2.6.11-mm4

2005-04-07 Thread Patrick McFarland
On Wednesday 30 March 2005 11:59 pm, Patrick McFarland wrote: 2.6.8 is also fubar. Now to 2.6.7 Nope, 2.6.7 is also fubar. Now to 2.6.6. BTW, can the ALSA userland in anyway screw me here? I mean,the joystick stuff shouldn't have anything to do with it at all... but -- Patrick

Re: [Fwd: Re: connector is missing in 2.6.12-rc2-mm1]

2005-04-07 Thread Evgeniy Polyakov
On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 12:41 +0200, Kay Sievers wrote: On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 13:52 +0400, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote: On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 10:12 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 12:13 +0400, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote: The main idea was to simplify userspace control and

Re: [PATCH] Use proper seq_file api for /proc/scsi/scsi

2005-04-07 Thread Hannes Reinecke
Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 11:46:27AM +0200, Hannes Reinecke wrote: Hi all, /proc/scsi/scsi currently has a very dumb implementation of the seq_file api which causes 'cat /proc/scsi/scsi' to return with -ENOMEM when a large amount of devices are connected.

Re: [PATCH] i2c: new driver for ds1337 RTC

2005-04-07 Thread Ladislav Michl
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 11:59:05AM +0200, Jean Delvare wrote: Please slice this into separarte patches. Adding support for the DS1339 is one thing, bug fixes are another. I can't review patches which do that many different things at once. I have objection ;-) Nothing in kernel seems to use

Re: Use of C99 int types

2005-04-07 Thread Renate Meijer
On Apr 6, 2005, at 11:11 PM, Kyle Moffett wrote: On Apr 06, 2005, at 07:41, Renate Meijer wrote: On Apr 6, 2005, at 12:11 AM, Kyle Moffett wrote: Please don't remove Linux-Kernel from the CC, I think this is an important discussion. GAAH!!! Read my lips!!! Quit removing Linux-Kernel from the CC!!!

Re: [PATCH] Use proper seq_file api for /proc/scsi/scsi

2005-04-07 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 01:21:23PM +0200, Hannes Reinecke wrote: /proc/scsi/scsi is deprecated and even only compiled in if legacy /proc/scsi/ support is enabled. Please move over to lssci which is using sysfs ASAP. Ah. And that's enough reason for it not to work properly? Deprecated

inotify in the official kernel?

2005-04-07 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Are there any estimates for when inotify will finally make it into the official kernel? The mm kernels are getting pretty well tested, and it's fairly obvious that inotify is a big improvement on dnotify. It would be really cool to have this more widely distributed. Cheers, Dave. -- David

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Sven Luther
Hi Jes, long time without hearing about you :) On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 03:17:33AM -0400, Jes Sorensen wrote: Sven On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 12:21:05PM +0200, Arjan van de Ven Sven wrote: Sven Ok, can you please point to me where is the place it should be Sven taken off ? I suppose you mean

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 01:22:36PM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote: Arjan van de Ven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 11:11 +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 09:49:25AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: I don't think you did get a rejection, a few people

Re: [RFC] Add support for semaphore-like structure with support for asynchronous I/O

2005-04-07 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 11:46:41AM -0400, Benjamin LaHaise wrote: On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 01:56:35PM -0400, Trond Myklebust wrote: IOW: the current semaphore implementations really all need to die, and be replaced by a single generic version to which it is actually practical to add new

Re: init process freezed after run_init_process

2005-04-07 Thread Jan Engelhardt
Thanks for kindly reply, :) No. I got the same problem without linuxrc. As I mount ram0 as root, linuxrc is not necessary. Right? Apply these rules: 1.) If you do provide an initrd= thing, the initrd is being looked for /linuxrc. 2.) If the root is the same as the ramdisk, then the initrd is

Re: [bk tree] DRM add a version check.. for 2.6.12 (distro kernel maintainers + drm users plz read also...)

2005-04-07 Thread Matti Aarnio
Dropping Linus off this list... On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 12:40:16PM +0100, Dave Airlie wrote: Hi Linus, In order to stop someone loading a drm driver on a wrong core this patch makes the driver pass in the version is was built against, this mainly useful for people using the DRI snapshots

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Humberto Massa
David Schwartz wrote: Well whoever wrote that seems to have taken the stand that the openfirmware package was were the firmware came from. The person obviously made a lot of statements without bothering checking out the real source. Well it didn't come from there, I got it from Alteon under a

find: /usr/src/linux-2.4.30/include/asm: Too many levels of symbolic links

2005-04-07 Thread Martin MOKREJ
Hi, again I've hit some wird problem doing make dep for 2.4 kernel: I've extracted the linxu-2.4.30.tar.gz file, copied .config from previous src-tree, ran `make oldconfig', did `make menuconfig', and finally `make dep': [cut] make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.30/arch/i386/lib'

PMTU, MSS and fragmentation needed problem with linux?

2005-04-07 Thread Nico Schottelius
Hello! [I hope this is the correct list, if not, please tell me where to ask] The following scenario: Linux-client -- Ethernet -- Linux-router -- PPPoE -- Internet. Linux-client has MTU==1500, so the MSS is 1460. Linux-router has MTU==1500 on eth0 and MTU=1492 on ppp0. The MSS is set to 1452

Re: 2.6.12-rc2 in_atomic() picks up preempt_disable()

2005-04-07 Thread Romano Giannetti
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 12:17:37PM +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 20:10 +1000, Keith Owens wrote: 2.6.12-rc2, with CONFIG_PREEMPT and CONFIG_PREEMPT_DEBUG. The in_atomic() macro thinks that preempt_disable() indicates an atomic region so calls to __might_sleep()

Re: find: /usr/src/linux-2.4.30/include/asm: Too many levels of symbolic links

2005-04-07 Thread DervishD
Hi Martin :) * Martin MOKREJ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: again I've hit some wird problem doing make dep for 2.4 kernel: Not a kernel problem but a findutils problem. Fixed in 4.2.19, but 4.2.20 was released recently. Upgrade. Raúl Núñez de Arenas Coronado -- Linux Registered

/dev/random problem on 2.6.12-rc1

2005-04-07 Thread Patrice Martinez
When using a machine with a 2612-rc 1kernel, I encounter problems reading /dev/random: it simply nevers returns anything, and the process is blocked in the read... The easiest way to see it is to type: od /dev/random Any idea? -- Best regards Patrice Martinez Linux Kernel Architect. OFFICE :

Re: [bk tree] DRM add a version check.. for 2.6.12 (distro kernel maintainers + drm users plz read also...)

2005-04-07 Thread Dave Airlie
I tried 2.6.12-rc2 which includes this patch, and I get DRM failures here, which causes application and X to hang. (I got failures with 2.6.11 also.) Does the FC-4 test kernel work? There was a bug in X6.8.2 but I think it would be fixed in FC-4 test.. I run Xorg CVS on a 9200 with the

VST and Sched Load Balance

2005-04-07 Thread Srivatsa Vaddagiri
Hi, VST patch (http://lwn.net/Articles/118693/) attempts to avoid useless regular (local) timer ticks when a CPU is idle. I think a potential area which VST may need to address is scheduler load balance. If idle CPUs stop taking local timer ticks for some time, then during that period

Re: [bk tree] DRM add a version check.. for 2.6.12 (distro kernel maintainers + drm users plz read also...)

2005-04-07 Thread Matti Aarnio
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 01:38:52PM +0100, Dave Airlie wrote: I tried 2.6.12-rc2 which includes this patch, and I get DRM failures here, which causes application and X to hang. (I got failures with 2.6.11 also.) Does the FC-4 test kernel work? There was a bug in X6.8.2 but I think it

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Humberto Massa
David Schmitt wrote: On Thursday 07 April 2005 09:25, Jes Sorensen wrote: [snip] I got it from Alteon under a written agreement stating I could distribute the image under the GPL. Since the firmware is simply data to Linux, hence keeping it under the GPL should be just fine. Then I would

Re: [bk tree] DRM add a version check.. for 2.6.12 (distro kernel maintainers + drm users plz read also...)

2005-04-07 Thread Dave Airlie
My lattest runs were with 2 days old FC development (a.k.a. bleeding edge) environment with xorg-11-** of same age. Then I noticed that these DRM patches didn't make it into kernel-smp-2.6.11-1.1226_FC4.i686.rpm, and I made 2.6.12-rc2 -- just in case it had fixed the problem... well

Re: ext3 allocate-with-reservation latencies

2005-04-07 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 09:14, Ingo Molnar wrote: doesnt the first option also allow searches to be in parallel? In terms of CPU usage, yes. But either we use large windows, in which case we *can't* search remotely near areas of the disk in parallel; or we use small windows, in which case

Re: VST and Sched Load Balance

2005-04-07 Thread Nick Piggin
Srivatsa Vaddagiri wrote: I think a potential area which VST may need to address is scheduler load balance. If idle CPUs stop taking local timer ticks for some time, then during that period it could cause the various runqueues to go out of balance, since the idle CPUs will no longer pull tasks

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Richard B. Johnson
On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, Humberto Massa wrote: David Schmitt wrote: On Thursday 07 April 2005 09:25, Jes Sorensen wrote: [snip] I got it from Alteon under a written agreement stating I could distribute the image under the GPL. Since the firmware is simply data to Linux, hence keeping it under the GPL

Re: /dev/random problem on 2.6.12-rc1

2005-04-07 Thread Yura Pakhuchiy
On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 14:40 +0200, Patrice Martinez wrote: When using a machine with a 2612-rc 1kernel, I encounter problems reading /dev/random: it simply nevers returns anything, and the process is blocked in the read... The easiest way to see it is to type: od /dev/random Any

Re: [PATCH] i2c: new driver for ds1337 RTC

2005-04-07 Thread Jean Delvare
Hi Ladislav, Please slice this into separarte patches. Adding support for the DS1339 is one thing, bug fixes are another. I can't review patches which do that many different things at once. I have objection ;-) Nothing in kernel seems to use that driver (...) How would you know? It has

Re: /dev/random problem on 2.6.12-rc1

2005-04-07 Thread Yura Pakhuchiy
On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 14:40 +0200, Patrice Martinez wrote: When using a machine with a 2612-rc 1kernel, I encounter problems reading /dev/random: it simply nevers returns anything, and the process is blocked in the read... The easiest way to see it is to type: od /dev/random Any

Re: [OOPS] 2.6.11 - NMI lockup with CFQ scheduler

2005-04-07 Thread James Bottomley
On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 08:49 +0200, Jens Axboe wrote: On Wed, Apr 06 2005, James Bottomley wrote: My proposal is to correct this by moving the data back to the correct object, and make any object using it hold a reference, so this would make the provider of the block request_fn hold a

Re: [OOPS] 2.6.11 - NMI lockup with CFQ scheduler

2005-04-07 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 09:18:38AM -0400, James Bottomley wrote: On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 08:49 +0200, Jens Axboe wrote: On Wed, Apr 06 2005, James Bottomley wrote: My proposal is to correct this by moving the data back to the correct object, and make any object using it hold a reference, so

Re: [OOPS] 2.6.11 - NMI lockup with CFQ scheduler

2005-04-07 Thread Jens Axboe
On Thu, Apr 07 2005, Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 09:18:38AM -0400, James Bottomley wrote: On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 08:49 +0200, Jens Axboe wrote: On Wed, Apr 06 2005, James Bottomley wrote: My proposal is to correct this by moving the data back to the correct

Re: [OOPS] 2.6.11 - NMI lockup with CFQ scheduler

2005-04-07 Thread Jens Axboe
On Thu, Apr 07 2005, James Bottomley wrote: On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 08:49 +0200, Jens Axboe wrote: On Wed, Apr 06 2005, James Bottomley wrote: My proposal is to correct this by moving the data back to the correct object, and make any object using it hold a reference, so this would make

Re: [OOPS] 2.6.11 - NMI lockup with CFQ scheduler

2005-04-07 Thread James Bottomley
On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 14:22 +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: Do we really need the sdev_lock pointer? There's just a single place where we're using it and the code would be much more clear if it had just one name. Humour me for a while. I don't believe we have any way the lock can be used

Re: [OOPS] 2.6.11 - NMI lockup with CFQ scheduler

2005-04-07 Thread Jens Axboe
On Thu, Apr 07 2005, James Bottomley wrote: On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 14:22 +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: Do we really need the sdev_lock pointer? There's just a single place where we're using it and the code would be much more clear if it had just one name. Humour me for a while. I

Re: [OOPS] 2.6.11 - NMI lockup with CFQ scheduler

2005-04-07 Thread James Bottomley
On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 15:32 +0200, Jens Axboe wrote: I think Christophs point is that why add sdev_lock as a pointer, instead of just killing it? It's only used in one location, so it's not really that confusing (and a comment could fix that). Because any use of sdev-request_queue-queue_lock

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread John Stoffel
Richard == Richard B Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard Last time I checked, GPL was about SOFTware, not FIRMware, Richard and not MICROcode. Oh be real, there's no real difference between them and you know it. It's all about where the bits are stored and what they tend to do in a

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Måns Rullgård
Richard B. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Last time I checked, GPL was about SOFTware, not FIRMware, and not MICROcode. If somebody has decided to rename FIRMware to SOFTware, Debian has undertaken to change the meaning of a whole lot of words, including software and free. This whole

Re: [PATCH][RFC] disable built-in modules V2

2005-04-07 Thread Horst von Brand
AsterixTheGaul [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: -#define module_init(x) __initcall(x); +#define module_init(x) __initcall(x); __module_init_disable(x); It would be better if there is brackets around them... like #define module_init(x) { __initcall(x); __module_init_disable(x); } then we know

Re: VST and Sched Load Balance

2005-04-07 Thread Srivatsa Vaddagiri
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 11:07:55PM +1000, Nick Piggin wrote: 3. This is exactly one of the situations that the balancing backoff code was designed for. Can you just schedule interrupts to fire when the next balance interval has passed? This may require some adjustments to the backoff

Re: VST and Sched Load Balance

2005-04-07 Thread Nick Piggin
Srivatsa Vaddagiri wrote: Hmm ..I guess we could restrict the max time a idle CPU will sleep taking into account its balance interval. But whatever heuristics we follow to maximize balance_interval of about-to-sleep idle CPU, don't we still run the risk of idle cpu being woken up and going

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 07 avril 2005 à 09:03 -0400, Richard B. Johnson a écrit : Well it doesn't make any difference. If GPL has degenerated to where one can't upload microcode to a device as part of its initialization, without having the source that generated that microcode, we are in a lot of hurt. Intel

Re: [Fwd: Re: connector is missing in 2.6.12-rc2-mm1]

2005-04-07 Thread Kay Sievers
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 03:24:34PM +0400, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote: On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 12:41 +0200, Kay Sievers wrote: On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 13:52 +0400, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote: On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 10:12 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 12:13 +0400, Evgeniy Polyakov

Re: [PATCH 2/6] freepgt2: sys_mincore ignore FIRST_USER_PGD_NR

2005-04-07 Thread Nick Piggin
David Howells wrote: Hugh Dickins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remove use of FIRST_USER_PGD_NR from sys_mincore: it's inconsistent (no other syscall refers to it), unnecessary (sys_mincore loops over vmas further down) and incorrect (misses user addresses in ARM's first pgd). You should make it use

Re: [Fwd: Re: connector is missing in 2.6.12-rc2-mm1]

2005-04-07 Thread Evgeniy Polyakov
On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 16:23 +0200, Kay Sievers wrote: Sure, but seems I need to ask again: What is the exact reason not to implement the muticast message multiplexing/subscription part of the connector as a generic part of netlink? That would be nice to have and useful for other subsystems

Re: crash in entry.S restore_all, 2.6.12-rc2, x86, PAGEALLOC

2005-04-07 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, Andrew Morton wrote: Ingo Molnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- linux/arch/i386/kernel/entry.S.orig +++ linux/arch/i386/kernel/entry.S @@ -179,12 +179,17 @@ need_resched: ENTRY(sysenter_entry) movl TSS_sysenter_esp0(%esp),%esp sysenter_past_esp: -

Re: crash in entry.S restore_all, 2.6.12-rc2, x86, PAGEALLOC

2005-04-07 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pushfl After all, I very strongly suspect that we don't actually really _care_ if eflags stays the same over a system call, and I could see that some dynamic CPU's might prefer not having to push an eflags value that just got changed

Re: 2.6.12-rc2 in_atomic() picks up preempt_disable()

2005-04-07 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Keith Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2.6.12-rc2, with CONFIG_PREEMPT and CONFIG_PREEMPT_DEBUG. The in_atomic() macro thinks that preempt_disable() indicates an atomic region so calls to __might_sleep() result in a stack trace. preempt_count() returns 1, no soft or hard irqs are running

Re: [stable] [patch 1/1] uml: quick fix syscall table [urgent]

2005-04-07 Thread Blaisorblade
On Wednesday 06 April 2005 22:21, Greg KH wrote: On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 08:38:00PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm resending this for inclusion in the -stable tree. I've deleted whitespace cleanups, and hope this can be merged. I've been asked to split the

Re: Kernel SCM saga..

2005-04-07 Thread Daniel Phillips
On Wednesday 06 April 2005 23:35, Daniel Phillips wrote: When I tried it, it took 13 seconds to 'bzr add' the 2.6.11.3 tree on a relatively slow machine. Oh, and 135 seconds to commit, so 148 seconds overall. Versus 87 seconds to to bunzip the tree in the first place. So far, you are in the

Re: Kernel SCM saga..

2005-04-07 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, Paul Mackerras wrote: Are you happy with processing patches + descriptions, one per mail? Yes. That's going to be my interim, I was just hoping that with 2.6.12-rc2 out the door, and us in a calming down period, I could afford to not even do that for a while. The real

Re: VST and Sched Load Balance

2005-04-07 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Srivatsa Vaddagiri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, VST patch (http://lwn.net/Articles/118693/) attempts to avoid useless regular (local) timer ticks when a CPU is idle. I think a potential area which VST may need to address is scheduler load balance. If idle CPUs stop taking local

Linux-2.6.11 can't disable CAD

2005-04-07 Thread Richard B. Johnson
In the not-too distant past, one could disable Ctl-Alt-DEL. Can't do it anymore. Script started on Thu 07 Apr 2005 10:58:11 AM EDT [SNIPPED leading stuff...] mprotect(0xb7fe4000, 28672, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC) = 0 brk(0) = 0x804a000 brk(0x8053000)

Re: [OOPS] 2.6.11 - NMI lockup with CFQ scheduler

2005-04-07 Thread Jens Axboe
On Thu, Apr 07 2005, James Bottomley wrote: On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 15:32 +0200, Jens Axboe wrote: I think Christophs point is that why add sdev_lock as a pointer, instead of just killing it? It's only used in one location, so it's not really that confusing (and a comment could fix that).

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Humberto Massa
Richard B. Johnson wrote: Well it doesn't make any difference. If GPL has degenerated to where one can't upload microcode to a device as part of its initialization, without having the source that generated that microcode, we are in a lot of hurt. Intel isn't going to give their designs away. I

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Oliver Neukum
Am Donnerstag, 7. April 2005 16:30 schrieb Humberto Massa: I don't recall anyone asking Intel to give theirs designs away. This thread is about: 1. (mainly) some firmware hexdumps present in the kernel source tree are either expicitly marked as being GPL'd or unmarked, in which case one

Re: bdflush/rpciod high CPU utilization, profile does not make sense

2005-04-07 Thread Jakob Oestergaard
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 05:28:56PM -0400, Trond Myklebust wrote: ... A look at nfsstat might help, as might netstat -s. In particular, I suggest looking at the retrans counter in nfsstat. When doing a 'cp largefile1 largefile2' on the client, I see approx. 10 retransmissions per second in

Re: [PATCH 1/4] create mm/Kconfig for arch-independent memory options

2005-04-07 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 02:30 +0200, Roman Zippel wrote: I was hoping for this too, in the meantime can't you simply make it a suboption of DISCONTIGMEM? So an extra option is only visible when it's enabled and most people can ignore it completely by just disabling a single option. That's

Re: [PATCH] i2c: new driver for ds1337 RTC

2005-04-07 Thread Ladislav Michl
Dear Jean, On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 03:07:40PM +0200, Jean Delvare wrote: I have objection ;-) Nothing in kernel seems to use that driver (...) How would you know? It has a user-space interface (ds1337_driver.command), which anyone might be using. I asked how is this driver supposed to

Re: /dev/random problem on 2.6.12-rc1

2005-04-07 Thread Simon Derr
On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, Yura Pakhuchiy wrote: On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 14:40 +0200, Patrice Martinez wrote: When using a machine with a 2612-rc 1kernel, I encounter problems reading /dev/random: it simply nevers returns anything, and the process is blocked in the read... The easiest way

Re: bdflush/rpciod high CPU utilization, profile does not make sense

2005-04-07 Thread Jakob Oestergaard
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 09:19:06AM +1000, Greg Banks wrote: ... How large is the client's RAM? 2GB - (32 bit kernel because it's dual PIII, so I use highmem) A few more details: With standard VM settings, the client will be laggy during the copy, but it will also have a load average around 10

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Humberto Massa
Oliver Neukum wrote: As this has been discussed numerous times and consensus never achieved and is unlikely to be achieved, I suggest that you keep this discussion internal to Debian until at least you have patches which can be evaluated and discussed. Until then Debian may do to its kernel

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Oliver Neukum
Am Donnerstag, 7. April 2005 17:01 schrieb Humberto Massa: Oliver Neukum wrote: As this has been discussed numerous times and consensus never achieved and is unlikely to be achieved, I suggest that you keep this discussion internal to Debian until at least you have patches which

Re: [Fwd: Re: connector is missing in 2.6.12-rc2-mm1]

2005-04-07 Thread James Morris
On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, Kay Sievers wrote: Sure, but seems I need to ask again: What is the exact reason not to implement the muticast message multiplexing/subscription part of the connector as a generic part of netlink? That would be nice to have and useful for other subsystems too as an option

Re: Linux 2.4.30-rc3 md/ext3 problems (ext3 gurus : please check)

2005-04-07 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 21:10, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote: However, 2.6 is suspected of still having leaks in ext3. To be certain that we're not just backporting one of those to 2.4, we need to understand who exactly is going to clean up these bh's if they are in fact unused once we

Re: bdflush/rpciod high CPU utilization, profile does not make sense

2005-04-07 Thread Greg Banks
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 05:38:48PM +0200, Jakob Oestergaard wrote: On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 09:19:06AM +1000, Greg Banks wrote: ... How large is the client's RAM? 2GB - (32 bit kernel because it's dual PIII, so I use highmem) Ok, that's probably not enough to fully trigger some of the

oops in misc_register, kernel 2.6.9+, using udev

2005-04-07 Thread Andrew Thomas
Hello, I am trying to install the srripc module - source at: http://www.cogent.ca/Software/SRR.html on a Linux 2.6.x kernel with udev support. The kernel generates an oops in misc_register, which is essentially the first call that the module makes on initialization. Oops output is attached

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 01:22:36PM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote: For tg3 a transition period shouldn't be needed as firmware loading is only needed on old/buggy hardware which is not the common case. Or to support advanced features which can be

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Re: crash in entry.S restore_all, 2.6.12-rc2, x86, PAGEALLOC

2005-04-07 Thread Stas Sergeev
Hello. Ingo Molnar wrote: now if an interrupt hits at this point, it will set up a 'same privilege level' stackframe, which has eip/xcs/eflags, i.e. no esp/xss. Yes, that's something I tried to say when talking about the interrupt gates (sorry if I wasn't clear). If upon irq-return we then

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