Re: Linux 3.6-rc7

2012-09-24 Thread Tarkan Erimer
On 09/24/2012 05:01 AM, Stephen Rothwell wrote: And pigs might fly :-) Perhaps; pigs cannot fly, but penguins can fly! :-P Unless, you didn't see this already : http://laughingsquid.com/flying-penguins-documentary-prank-on-bbc/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_penguins Have fun! ;-)

Re: Linux 3.6-rc7

2012-09-24 Thread Tarkan Erimer
On 09/24/2012 05:01 AM, Stephen Rothwell wrote: And pigs might fly :-) Perhaps; pigs cannot fly, but penguins can fly! :-P Unless, you didn't see this already : http://laughingsquid.com/flying-penguins-documentary-prank-on-bbc/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_penguins Have fun! ;-)

Re: Kernel BUG in 2.6.23.9

2008-01-03 Thread Tarkan Erimer
o, how to track this interesting problem ? Any ideas welcomed :-) Cheers, Tarkan Erimer -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the

Re: Kernel BUG in 2.6.23.9

2008-01-03 Thread Tarkan Erimer
this interesting problem ? Any ideas welcomed :-) Cheers, Tarkan Erimer -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http

Re: Kernel BUG in 2.6.23.9

2007-12-10 Thread Tarkan Erimer
Arjan van de Ven wrote: well... try to get the oops message out; for many causes of crash that's a good way to find out what happened... (not always, but it allows us to find patterns if nothing else) Unfortunately, I couldn't get the oops message. Because when this behavior happens, the

Re: Kernel BUG in 2.6.23.9

2007-12-10 Thread Tarkan Erimer
o, how to track this interesting problem ? Any ideas welcomed :-) Cheers, Tarkan Erimer -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: Kernel BUG in 2.6.23.9

2007-12-10 Thread Tarkan Erimer
this interesting problem ? Any ideas welcomed :-) Cheers, Tarkan Erimer -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http

Re: Kernel BUG in 2.6.23.9

2007-12-10 Thread Tarkan Erimer
Arjan van de Ven wrote: well... try to get the oops message out; for many causes of crash that's a good way to find out what happened... (not always, but it allows us to find patterns if nothing else) Unfortunately, I couldn't get the oops message. Because when this behavior happens, the

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2007-06-29 Thread Tarkan Erimer
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2007-06-29 Thread Tarkan Erimer
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Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-13 Thread Tarkan Erimer
Matthias Kaehlcke wrote: FYI, Jonathan Schwartz' response: I wanted you to hear this from me directly. We want to work together, we want to join hands and communities - we have no intention of holding anything back, or pulling patent nonsense. And to prove the sincerity of the offer, I invite

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-13 Thread Tarkan Erimer
Hi Linus, Linus Torvalds wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote: Per this reasoning, Sun wouldn't be waiting for GPLv3, and it would have already released the OpenSolaris kernel under GPLv2, would it not? ;-) Umm. You are making the fundamental mistake of thinking that Sun

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-13 Thread Tarkan Erimer
Hi Linus, Linus Torvalds wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote: Per this reasoning, Sun wouldn't be waiting for GPLv3, and it would have already released the OpenSolaris kernel under GPLv2, would it not? ;-) Umm. You are making the fundamental mistake of thinking that Sun

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-13 Thread Tarkan Erimer
Matthias Kaehlcke wrote: FYI, Jonathan Schwartz' response: I wanted you to hear this from me directly. We want to work together, we want to join hands and communities - we have no intention of holding anything back, or pulling patent nonsense. And to prove the sincerity of the offer, I invite

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-11 Thread Tarkan Erimer
Ingo Molnar wrote: * Tarkan Erimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (*) And I've been pushing for that since before they even released it - I walked out on Bill Joy at a private event where they discussed their horrible previous Java license. Thanks for making things more clear :-

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-11 Thread Tarkan Erimer
Ingo Molnar wrote: You might as well have said "the moon is made out of cheese" and i'd not have quoted it either. Why? Because it's irrelevant to the fundamental point that was raised and which you keep ignoring: that the only "example" you cited is a hypothetical that is currently false. In

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-11 Thread Tarkan Erimer
Linus Torvalds wrote: On Sun, 10 Jun 2007, Linus Torvalds wrote: I have yet to see any actual *reasons* for licensing under the GPLv3, though. Btw, if Sun really _is_ going to release OpenSolaris under GPLv3, that _may_ be a good reason. I don't think the GPLv3 is as good a license

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-11 Thread Tarkan Erimer
Ingo Molnar wrote: * Tarkan Erimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] Just, I asked simple question and included a simple example in it. [...] actually, what you said was this: " I hope we should upgrade to GPLv3 and Sun should "Dual License" the OpenSolaris v

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-11 Thread Tarkan Erimer
Ingo Molnar wrote: if you want to change the minds of the OpenSolaris community, i'd proffer that it's perhaps more efficient to talk to them, not to the linux-kernel mailing list. Thanks, Ingo I do not want to and try to change anyone's mind: nor the Open Solaris Community nor

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-11 Thread Tarkan Erimer
Al Viro wrote: Perhaps. However, since the only thing in hands of your kind of advocates is best not mentioned on a family-friendly maillist, may I suggest taking that exciting thread to more appropriate place? I don't think that this thread is going unfriendly or harmfully. However, what

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-11 Thread Tarkan Erimer
debian developer wrote: On 6/10/07, Tarkan Erimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: debian developer wrote: > On 6/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007, Tarkan Erimer wrote: >> >> >> > And maybe another questions sho

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-11 Thread Tarkan Erimer
Greg KH wrote: On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 05:21:53PM +0300, Tarkan Erimer wrote: I hope we should upgrade to GPLv3 and Sun should "Dual License" the OpenSolaris via GPLv3 (or at least,GPLv3 should be CDDL compatible.). The OpenSolaris community has already stated that they d

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-11 Thread Tarkan Erimer
Greg KH wrote: On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 05:21:53PM +0300, Tarkan Erimer wrote: I hope we should upgrade to GPLv3 and Sun should Dual License the OpenSolaris via GPLv3 (or at least,GPLv3 should be CDDL compatible.). The OpenSolaris community has already stated that they do not want

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-11 Thread Tarkan Erimer
debian developer wrote: On 6/10/07, Tarkan Erimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: debian developer wrote: On 6/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 10 Jun 2007, Tarkan Erimer wrote: And maybe another questions should be : How long a copyright owner can hold

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-11 Thread Tarkan Erimer
Al Viro wrote: Perhaps. However, since the only thing in hands of your kind of advocates is best not mentioned on a family-friendly maillist, may I suggest taking that exciting thread to more appropriate place? I don't think that this thread is going unfriendly or harmfully. However, what

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-11 Thread Tarkan Erimer
Ingo Molnar wrote: if you want to change the minds of the OpenSolaris community, i'd proffer that it's perhaps more efficient to talk to them, not to the linux-kernel mailing list. Thanks, Ingo I do not want to and try to change anyone's mind: nor the Open Solaris Community nor

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-11 Thread Tarkan Erimer
Ingo Molnar wrote: * Tarkan Erimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Just, I asked simple question and included a simple example in it. [...] actually, what you said was this: I hope we should upgrade to GPLv3 and Sun should Dual License the OpenSolaris via GPLv3 (or at least,GPLv3

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-11 Thread Tarkan Erimer
Linus Torvalds wrote: On Sun, 10 Jun 2007, Linus Torvalds wrote: I have yet to see any actual *reasons* for licensing under the GPLv3, though. Btw, if Sun really _is_ going to release OpenSolaris under GPLv3, that _may_ be a good reason. I don't think the GPLv3 is as good a license

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-11 Thread Tarkan Erimer
Ingo Molnar wrote: You might as well have said the moon is made out of cheese and i'd not have quoted it either. Why? Because it's irrelevant to the fundamental point that was raised and which you keep ignoring: that the only example you cited is a hypothetical that is currently false. In any

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-11 Thread Tarkan Erimer
Ingo Molnar wrote: * Tarkan Erimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (*) And I've been pushing for that since before they even released it - I walked out on Bill Joy at a private event where they discussed their horrible previous Java license. Thanks for making things more clear :-) Some

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-10 Thread Tarkan Erimer
debian developer wrote: On 6/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 10 Jun 2007, Tarkan Erimer wrote: >> > And maybe another questions should be : How long a copyright owner can >> > hold the copyright, if died or lost for sometime ? if died, t

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-10 Thread Tarkan Erimer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 10 Jun 2007, Tarkan Erimer wrote: Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:43:28 +0300 From: Tarkan Erimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: On Sat, 2007-06-09

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-10 Thread Tarkan Erimer
Hi Neil, Neil Brown wrote: On Saturday June 9, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, As we know the forthcoming GPL V3 will be not compatible with the GPL V2 and Linux Kernel is GPL V2 only. So, another point is, which is previously mentioned by Linus and others, that if it is decided to upgrade

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-10 Thread Tarkan Erimer
Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: On Sat, 2007-06-09 15:57:55 +1000, Neil Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Saturday June 9, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As we know the forthcoming GPL V3 will be not compatible with the GPL V2 and Linux Kernel is GPL V2 only. So, another point is, which is

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-10 Thread Tarkan Erimer
Hi David, David Schwartz wrote: But; if the Linux kernel should Dual-Licensed (GPL V2 and GPL V3), it will allow us the both worlds' fruits like code exchanging from other Open Source Projects (OpenSolaris etc.) that is compatible with GPL V3 and not with GPL V2 and of course the opposite is

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-10 Thread Tarkan Erimer
Hi David, David Schwartz wrote: But; if the Linux kernel should Dual-Licensed (GPL V2 and GPL V3), it will allow us the both worlds' fruits like code exchanging from other Open Source Projects (OpenSolaris etc.) that is compatible with GPL V3 and not with GPL V2 and of course the opposite is

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-10 Thread Tarkan Erimer
Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: On Sat, 2007-06-09 15:57:55 +1000, Neil Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday June 9, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As we know the forthcoming GPL V3 will be not compatible with the GPL V2 and Linux Kernel is GPL V2 only. So, another point is, which is

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-10 Thread Tarkan Erimer
Hi Neil, Neil Brown wrote: On Saturday June 9, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, As we know the forthcoming GPL V3 will be not compatible with the GPL V2 and Linux Kernel is GPL V2 only. So, another point is, which is previously mentioned by Linus and others, that if it is decided to upgrade

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-10 Thread Tarkan Erimer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 10 Jun 2007, Tarkan Erimer wrote: Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:43:28 +0300 From: Tarkan Erimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: On Sat, 2007-06-09 15:57

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-10 Thread Tarkan Erimer
debian developer wrote: On 6/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 10 Jun 2007, Tarkan Erimer wrote: And maybe another questions should be : How long a copyright owner can hold the copyright, if died or lost for sometime ? if died, the copyright still should

Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-08 Thread Tarkan Erimer
and suggestions about this idea ? Regards, Tarkan Erimer - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-08 Thread Tarkan Erimer
and suggestions about this idea ? Regards, Tarkan Erimer - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/