Re: [PATCH] drivers/block: Goodbye BLK_DEV_UMEM

2021-03-24 Thread Jens Axboe
On 3/23/21 1:07 PM, Davidlohr Bueso wrote: > This removes the driver on the premise that it has been unused for a long > time. This is a better approach compared to changing untestable code nobody > cares about in the first place. Similarly, the umem.com website now shows a > mere Godaddy parking

Re: [PATCH] drivers/block: Goodbye BLK_DEV_UMEM

2021-03-23 Thread NeilBrown
On Tue, Mar 23 2021, Davidlohr Bueso wrote: > I'm also Ccing Neil, who is one of the authors. Thanks! I have no objection to the removal. The driver served its purpose at the time, but technology has moved on. Add Acked-by: NeilBrown if you like (not necessary). Thanks, NeilBrown > > On

Re: [PATCH] drivers/block: Goodbye BLK_DEV_UMEM

2021-03-23 Thread Davidlohr Bueso
I'm also Ccing Neil, who is one of the authors. On Tue, 23 Mar 2021, Bueso wrote: This removes the driver on the premise that it has been unused for a long time. This is a better approach compared to changing untestable code nobody cares about in the first place. Similarly, the umem.com

[PATCH] drivers/block: Goodbye BLK_DEV_UMEM

2021-03-23 Thread Davidlohr Bueso
This removes the driver on the premise that it has been unused for a long time. This is a better approach compared to changing untestable code nobody cares about in the first place. Similarly, the umem.com website now shows a mere Godaddy parking add. Suggested-by: Christoph Hellwig

[PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Saying goodbye to Hans J. Koch

2016-08-08 Thread Benedikt Spranger
We had to say goodbye when Hans passed away recently. Hans was a free-software enthusiast and an active contributor. He was the main author and maintainer of the UIO subsystem and contributed in various ways to the Linux kernel as a professional and hobbyist. He is greatly missed. Signed-off

[PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Saying goodbye to Hans J. Koch

2016-08-08 Thread Benedikt Spranger
We had to say goodbye when Hans passed away recently. Hans was a free-software enthusiast and an active contributor. He was the main author and maintainer of the UIO subsystem and contributed in various ways to the Linux kernel as a professional and hobbyist. He is greatly missed. Signed-off

[PATCH] libata-sff: Kiss ATA_PRIMARY_* goodbye

2007-07-03 Thread Alan Cox
We've been setting the PCI resources correctly in the PCI layer for some time so remove this special casing. Signed-off-by: Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> diff -u --new-file --exclude-from /usr/src/exclude --recursive linux.vanilla-2.6.22-rc6-mm1/drivers/ata/libata-sff.c

[PATCH] libata-sff: Kiss ATA_PRIMARY_* goodbye

2007-07-03 Thread Alan Cox
We've been setting the PCI resources correctly in the PCI layer for some time so remove this special casing. Signed-off-by: Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] diff -u --new-file --exclude-from /usr/src/exclude --recursive linux.vanilla-2.6.22-rc6-mm1/drivers/ata/libata-sff.c

Goodbye from our Newsletter

2007-03-14 Thread KUBICO
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Goodbye from our Newsletter

2007-03-14 Thread KUBICO
Ficamos tristes com a sua ida. Você anulou a sua subscrição da nossa newsletter. Este será o último email que irá receber de nós. Nós o adicionamos à nossa blacklist, o que quer dizer que nenhuma das nossas newsletters irão ser enviadas para si, sem intervenção manual do administrador do

Re: goodbye

2001-04-12 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 11:17:29PM -0500, David Fries wrote: > There is a lot of comfort looking at /var/log/mail.log and seeing mail > accepted by the computer servicing the other person's account. Now > all I have is, accepted by university, hope it gets there... > While I operate my own mail

Re: goodbye

2001-04-12 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 11:17:29PM -0500, David Fries wrote: There is a lot of comfort looking at /var/log/mail.log and seeing mail accepted by the computer servicing the other person's account. Now all I have is, accepted by university, hope it gets there... While I operate my own mail

Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Rik van Riel
On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Joseph Carter wrote: > On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 01:00:08AM +0300, Matti Aarnio wrote: > > Dave said "remove DUL", I did that. > > > > VGER uses now RBL and RSS, no others. > > Thank you, I don't believe there is anyone on this list who is likely > to object to

Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 01:00:08AM +0300, Matti Aarnio wrote: > Dave said "remove DUL", I did that. > > VGER uses now RBL and RSS, no others. Thank you, I don't believe there is anyone on this list who is likely to object to these lists. -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [OT] Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread David
> > >> So, Mr. Admin, setup your laptop to use SSL to your SMTP and POP >> server and authenticate with a client side certificate on your >> laptop. Welcome to the 21st century. You may, however, need a little >> more infrastructure than you can pull from your favourite distribution >> box. >

Re: [OT] Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Matti Aarnio
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 09:34:04PM +, Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote: > Michael Peddemors <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >Uh... use their ISP relay service anyway??? > >I take my laptop all over, to lot's of my clients locations, and if I > >could relay through their servers, then I had

Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Rik van Riel
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Matti Aarnio wrote: > Dave said "remove DUL", I did that. > VGER uses now RBL and RSS, no others. Thanks ! To come back to the spamfilter promise I made some time ago, people can now get a CVS tree with spam regular expressions and a script to generate a

Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Matti Aarnio
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 02:50:55AM -0300, Rik van Riel wrote: > On Sun, 8 Apr 2001, David S. Miller wrote: > > Rik van Riel writes: > > > Anyway, since linux-kernel has chosen to not receive email from me > > Funny how this posting went through then... > > > > If it is specifically when you are

Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Rogier Wolff
Alan Cox wrote: > > I really would like to run "ORBS" on my incoming-mail-server. However > > I find it unacceptable to be rejecting Email from possibly legitimate > > clients. So Adding an "relay is listed on orbs" line would allow me to > > sort this into a low priority "probably spam" mailbox,

Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Alan Cox
> The other exception is untestable-netblocks.orbs.org, which blocks > everything it cannot test and is just as bad as DUL. untestable-netblocks is the killer for 20% of the actual spam I get (almost entirely from rr.com) > Anyway, since linux-kernel has chosen to not receive email from me > I

[OT] Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Michael Peddemors
Uh... use their ISP relay service anyway??? I take my laptop all over, to lot's of my clients locations, and if I could relay through their servers, then I had better give them some good advice.. Some places I just pick an available IP and it might not be in the allowed relay list. And this

Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Alan Cox
> I really would like to run "ORBS" on my incoming-mail-server. However > I find it unacceptable to be rejecting Email from possibly legitimate > clients. So Adding an "relay is listed on orbs" line would allow me to > sort this into a low priority "probably spam" mailbox, just like I'd > do with

Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Stephen E. Clark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Let's see, ORBS takes out the ISP route, DUL takes out the direct one. Is > >it any wonder people are hostile toward those two lists? > > Exactly. I hate spam, but I hate ORBS and DUL even more. If I'm going to get >

Re: goodbye || alternatives

2001-04-09 Thread David
Or you can do as I have and setup port 26 SMTP, thereby routing around nazi ISP created damage. Believe me, the damage that RBL, ORBS, etc can do is incredible. I still use them, but I use them carefully and I provide escape routes for people who are still under a global

Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Wayne . Brown
David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >"self-appointed" > >Are you implying that the people who run ORBS and the other RBL lists >actually hacked into vger.kernel.org and changed the MTA configuration to >use those lists? I was of the opinion that it was a free choice made by the

Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread David Woodhouse
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Exactly. I hate spam, but I hate ORBS and DUL even more. If I'm > going to get the shaft, I'd rather it be from the "bad guys" > (spammers) than from self-appointed net.cops. "self-appointed"? Are you implying that the people who run ORBS and the other RBL lists

Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Wayne . Brown
Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Let's see, ORBS takes out the ISP route, DUL takes out the direct one. Is >it any wonder people are hostile toward those two lists? Exactly. I hate spam, but I hate ORBS and DUL even more. If I'm going to get the shaft, I'd rather it be from the

Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Billy Harvey
> The ISP could have blocked outgoing port 25 instead, forcing you to go > via the relay. Then you'd have no choice. > > Regards, > > Richard Any ISP that blocks any port I want to use will see me in court. Billy - To

Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Richard Gooch
Rik van Riel writes: > On Sun, 8 Apr 2001, David S. Miller wrote: > > Rik van Riel writes: > > > Anyway, since linux-kernel has chosen to not receive email from me > > > > Funny how this posting went through then... > > > > If it is specifically when you are sending mail from some other place,

Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Richard Gooch
Rik van Riel writes: On Sun, 8 Apr 2001, David S. Miller wrote: Rik van Riel writes: Anyway, since linux-kernel has chosen to not receive email from me Funny how this posting went through then... If it is specifically when you are sending mail from some other place, state so,

Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Billy Harvey
The ISP could have blocked outgoing port 25 instead, forcing you to go via the relay. Then you'd have no choice. Regards, Richard Any ISP that blocks any port I want to use will see me in court. Billy - To

Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Wayne . Brown
Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's see, ORBS takes out the ISP route, DUL takes out the direct one. Is it any wonder people are hostile toward those two lists? Exactly. I hate spam, but I hate ORBS and DUL even more. If I'm going to get the shaft, I'd rather it be from the "bad

Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread David Woodhouse
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Exactly. I hate spam, but I hate ORBS and DUL even more. If I'm going to get the shaft, I'd rather it be from the "bad guys" (spammers) than from self-appointed net.cops. "self-appointed"? Are you implying that the people who run ORBS and the other RBL lists

Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Wayne . Brown
David Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "self-appointed" Are you implying that the people who run ORBS and the other RBL lists actually hacked into vger.kernel.org and changed the MTA configuration to use those lists? I was of the opinion that it was a free choice made by the administrators

Re: goodbye || alternatives

2001-04-09 Thread David
Or you can do as I have and setup port 26 SMTP, thereby routing around nazi ISP created damage. Believe me, the damage that RBL, ORBS, etc can do is incredible. I still use them, but I use them carefully and I provide escape routes for people who are still under a global

Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Stephen E. Clark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's see, ORBS takes out the ISP route, DUL takes out the direct one. Is it any wonder people are hostile toward those two lists? Exactly. I hate spam, but I hate ORBS and DUL even more. If I'm going to get the shaft,

Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Alan Cox
I really would like to run "ORBS" on my incoming-mail-server. However I find it unacceptable to be rejecting Email from possibly legitimate clients. So Adding an "relay is listed on orbs" line would allow me to sort this into a low priority "probably spam" mailbox, just like I'd do with

[OT] Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Michael Peddemors
Uh... use their ISP relay service anyway??? I take my laptop all over, to lot's of my clients locations, and if I could relay through their servers, then I had better give them some good advice.. Some places I just pick an available IP and it might not be in the allowed relay list. And this

Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Alan Cox
The other exception is untestable-netblocks.orbs.org, which blocks everything it cannot test and is just as bad as DUL. untestable-netblocks is the killer for 20% of the actual spam I get (almost entirely from rr.com) Anyway, since linux-kernel has chosen to not receive email from me I

Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Rogier Wolff
Alan Cox wrote: I really would like to run "ORBS" on my incoming-mail-server. However I find it unacceptable to be rejecting Email from possibly legitimate clients. So Adding an "relay is listed on orbs" line would allow me to sort this into a low priority "probably spam" mailbox, just

Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Matti Aarnio
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 02:50:55AM -0300, Rik van Riel wrote: On Sun, 8 Apr 2001, David S. Miller wrote: Rik van Riel writes: Anyway, since linux-kernel has chosen to not receive email from me Funny how this posting went through then... If it is specifically when you are sending

Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Rik van Riel
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Matti Aarnio wrote: Dave said "remove DUL", I did that. VGER uses now RBL and RSS, no others. Thanks ! To come back to the spamfilter promise I made some time ago, people can now get a CVS tree with spam regular expressions and a script to generate a

Re: [OT] Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Matti Aarnio
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 09:34:04PM +, Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote: Michael Peddemors [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Uh... use their ISP relay service anyway??? I take my laptop all over, to lot's of my clients locations, and if I could relay through their servers, then I had better give

Re: [OT] Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread David
So, Mr. Admin, setup your laptop to use SSL to your SMTP and POP server and authenticate with a client side certificate on your laptop. Welcome to the 21st century. You may, however, need a little more infrastructure than you can pull from your favourite distribution box.

Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 01:00:08AM +0300, Matti Aarnio wrote: Dave said "remove DUL", I did that. VGER uses now RBL and RSS, no others. Thank you, I don't believe there is anyone on this list who is likely to object to these lists. -- Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Rik van Riel
On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Joseph Carter wrote: On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 01:00:08AM +0300, Matti Aarnio wrote: Dave said "remove DUL", I did that. VGER uses now RBL and RSS, no others. Thank you, I don't believe there is anyone on this list who is likely to object to these lists.

Re: goodbye

2001-04-08 Thread Rik van Riel
On Sun, 8 Apr 2001, David S. Miller wrote: > Rik van Riel writes: > > Anyway, since linux-kernel has chosen to not receive email from me > > Funny how this posting went through then... > > If it is specifically when you are sending mail from some other place, > state so, don't make blanket

Re: goodbye

2001-04-08 Thread David S. Miller
Rik van Riel writes: > Anyway, since linux-kernel has chosen to not receive email from me Funny how this posting went through then... If it is specifically when you are sending mail from some other place, state so, don't make blanket statements which obviously are not wholly true. Later,

Re: goodbye

2001-04-08 Thread Rik van Riel
On Sun, 8 Apr 2001, Matti Aarnio wrote: > The incentive behind the DUL is to force users not to post > straight out to the world, but to use their ISP's servers > for outbound email --- normal M$ users do that, after all. > Only spammers - and UNIX powerusers - want to

Re: goodbye

2001-04-08 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sun, 8 Apr 2001, Rogier Wolff wrote: > SMTP receivers should have the option of inserting a header line > instead of blocking "bad" Emails. Then other layers can decide what to > do with this Email. http://www.exim.org/exim-html-3.20/doc/html/spec_46.html#SEC810 rbl_domains =

Re: goodbye

2001-04-08 Thread Ben Ford
john slee wrote: > On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 07:07:20PM -0700, Colonel wrote: > >> Some ISPs rely on crap software & OS to process email, and have other > > > so you don't use those ISPs Some people don't have a choice of ISPs. Some people are lucky if they can even *get* dial-up. -b -

Re: goodbye

2001-04-08 Thread Davide Libenzi
On 08-Apr-2001 Rogier Wolff wrote: > Matti Aarnio wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 02:10:52PM +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > How about creating an additional ML, >> > the new ML (say LKML-DUL) is used to send mails from DUL to LKML, but >> > such mails are not sent to LMKL. >> >>

Re: goodbye

2001-04-08 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 02:22:49PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > > ORBS ... well, they called one of my old ISPs' mail an open relay when > > it wasn't and took 3 months to decide to rectify the situation and > > remove us from their list. That doesn't instill much confidence. > > I've heard

Re: goodbye

2001-04-08 Thread Rogier Wolff
Matti Aarnio wrote: > On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 02:10:52PM +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > How about creating an additional ML, > > the new ML (say LKML-DUL) is used to send mails from DUL to LKML, but > > such mails are not sent to LMKL. > > Layering and technology problem. > >

Re: goodbye

2001-04-08 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Joseph Carter wrote: > ORBS ... well, they called one of my old ISPs' mail an open relay when > it wasn't and took 3 months to decide to rectify the situation and > remove us from their list. That doesn't instill much confidence. I've heard that accusation many times, and

Re: goodbye

2001-04-08 Thread Rogier Wolff
john slee wrote: > On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 07:07:20PM -0700, Colonel wrote: > > Some ISPs rely on crap software & OS to process email, and have other > > so you don't use those ISPs Out here I have choice between dialup (lots to chose from): $200/month(*), not always online. cable (one

Re: goodbye

2001-04-08 Thread Jeff Mcadams
Also sprach Joseph Carter >Even in those cases where broadband users are given a choice of providers, >they have to know to ask for that choice since it is never offered and by >exercising that choice you will usually find the price to be at least >double if not triple - often through no fault of

Re: goodbye

2001-04-08 Thread Olaf Titz
> It scares me that peoples' messages would be denied based on what > degree of connection they choose to mail via. I sincerely hope that > the DUL lists only list netblocks that are actively being used for > spam. This would be sort of like the Usenet Death Penalty, instating > bans on providers

Re: goodbye

2001-04-08 Thread Matti Aarnio
On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 02:10:52PM +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > How about creating an additional ML, > the new ML (say LKML-DUL) is used to send mails from DUL to LKML, but > such mails are not sent to LMKL. Layering and technology problem. SMTP receiver does those

Re: goodbye

2001-04-08 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 02:32:28AM +0300, Matti Aarnio wrote: > The incentive behind the DUL is to force users not to post > straight out to the world, but to use their ISP's servers > for outbound email --- normal M$ users do that, after all. > Only spammers - and UNIX

Re: goodbye

2001-04-08 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 02:32:28AM +0300, Matti Aarnio wrote: The incentive behind the DUL is to force users not to post straight out to the world, but to use their ISP's servers for outbound email --- normal M$ users do that, after all. Only spammers - and UNIX

Re: goodbye

2001-04-08 Thread Matti Aarnio
On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 02:10:52PM +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about creating an additional ML, the new ML (say LKML-DUL) is used to send mails from DUL to LKML, but such mails are not sent to LMKL. Layering and technology problem. SMTP receiver does those

Re: goodbye

2001-04-08 Thread Olaf Titz
It scares me that peoples' messages would be denied based on what degree of connection they choose to mail via. I sincerely hope that the DUL lists only list netblocks that are actively being used for spam. This would be sort of like the Usenet Death Penalty, instating bans on providers who

Re: goodbye

2001-04-08 Thread Jeff Mcadams
Also sprach Joseph Carter Even in those cases where broadband users are given a choice of providers, they have to know to ask for that choice since it is never offered and by exercising that choice you will usually find the price to be at least double if not triple - often through no fault of

Re: goodbye

2001-04-08 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Joseph Carter wrote: ORBS ... well, they called one of my old ISPs' mail an open relay when it wasn't and took 3 months to decide to rectify the situation and remove us from their list. That doesn't instill much confidence. I've heard that accusation many times, and on

Re: goodbye

2001-04-08 Thread Rogier Wolff
john slee wrote: On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 07:07:20PM -0700, Colonel wrote: Some ISPs rely on crap software OS to process email, and have other so you don't use those ISPs Out here I have choice between dialup (lots to chose from): $200/month(*), not always online. cable (one

Re: goodbye

2001-04-08 Thread Rogier Wolff
Matti Aarnio wrote: On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 02:10:52PM +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about creating an additional ML, the new ML (say LKML-DUL) is used to send mails from DUL to LKML, but such mails are not sent to LMKL. Layering and technology problem. SMTP

Re: goodbye

2001-04-08 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 02:22:49PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: ORBS ... well, they called one of my old ISPs' mail an open relay when it wasn't and took 3 months to decide to rectify the situation and remove us from their list. That doesn't instill much confidence. I've heard that

Re: goodbye

2001-04-08 Thread Davide Libenzi
On 08-Apr-2001 Rogier Wolff wrote: Matti Aarnio wrote: On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 02:10:52PM +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about creating an additional ML, the new ML (say LKML-DUL) is used to send mails from DUL to LKML, but such mails are not sent to LMKL. Layering and

Re: goodbye

2001-04-08 Thread Ben Ford
john slee wrote: On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 07:07:20PM -0700, Colonel wrote: Some ISPs rely on crap software OS to process email, and have other so you don't use those ISPs Some people don't have a choice of ISPs. Some people are lucky if they can even *get* dial-up. -b - To

Re: goodbye

2001-04-08 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sun, 8 Apr 2001, Rogier Wolff wrote: SMTP receivers should have the option of inserting a header line instead of blocking "bad" Emails. Then other layers can decide what to do with this Email. http://www.exim.org/exim-html-3.20/doc/html/spec_46.html#SEC810 rbl_domains =

Re: goodbye

2001-04-08 Thread Rik van Riel
On Sun, 8 Apr 2001, Matti Aarnio wrote: The incentive behind the DUL is to force users not to post straight out to the world, but to use their ISP's servers for outbound email --- normal M$ users do that, after all. Only spammers - and UNIX powerusers - want to post

Re: goodbye

2001-04-08 Thread David S. Miller
Rik van Riel writes: Anyway, since linux-kernel has chosen to not receive email from me Funny how this posting went through then... If it is specifically when you are sending mail from some other place, state so, don't make blanket statements which obviously are not wholly true. Later,

Re: goodbye

2001-04-08 Thread Rik van Riel
On Sun, 8 Apr 2001, David S. Miller wrote: Rik van Riel writes: Anyway, since linux-kernel has chosen to not receive email from me Funny how this posting went through then... If it is specifically when you are sending mail from some other place, state so, don't make blanket statements

Re: goodbye

2001-04-07 Thread Graham Murray
Matti Aarnio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I just verified this particular aspect of VGER's MTA > configurations. It has been unmodified since 21-Mar-2000, > that is, over a year... On the subject of vger configuration, the FAQ states that vger "will" start using ECN as of 22

Re: goodbye

2001-04-07 Thread Stephen Satchell
At 09:02 PM 4/7/01 -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: >Not always an option. There are many places in the world in which your >ISP is a monopoly. And even in your simplistic view of the world, there >are many places in the United States where you are held captibe by not >having more than one local

Re: goodbye

2001-04-07 Thread David Fries
On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 02:32:28AM +0300, Matti Aarnio wrote: > On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 06:14:33PM -0700, Michael Peddemors wrote: > Well, comparing how much spam goes thru linux-mm vs. linux-kernel, > I would say our methods are fairly effective. > > The incentive behind the

Re: goodbye

2001-04-07 Thread Ralf Baechle
On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 02:32:28AM +0300, Matti Aarnio wrote: > The incentive behind the DUL is to force users not to post > straight out to the world, but to use their ISP's servers > for outbound email --- normal M$ users do that, after all. > Only spammers - and UNIX

Re: goodbye

2001-04-07 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 12:56:21PM +1000, john slee wrote: > > Some ISPs rely on crap software & OS to process email, and have other > > so you don't use those ISPs Not always an option. There are many places in the world in which your ISP is a monopoly. And even in your simplistic view of

Re: goodbye

2001-04-07 Thread john slee
On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 07:07:20PM -0700, Colonel wrote: > Some ISPs rely on crap software & OS to process email, and have other so you don't use those ISPs > bad habits besides. Censorship usually does more bad than good > (especially since dealing with 80% of the spam is trivial for >

Re: goodbye

2001-04-07 Thread Colonel
In list.kernel, you wrote: > >On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 06:14:33PM -0700, Michael Peddemors wrote: >> I think that this is one list where we have to keep the ability to post >> from individuals separate from the need to make sure that their ISP or >> company is compliant to a set a of rules.. The

Re: goodbye

2001-04-07 Thread Matti Aarnio
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 06:14:33PM -0700, Michael Peddemors wrote: > This would be a shame, as he has been a valuable resource.. > Why has the list become more restrictive? I just verified this particular aspect of VGER's MTA configurations. It has been unmodified since

Re: goodbye

2001-04-07 Thread Matti Aarnio
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 06:14:33PM -0700, Michael Peddemors wrote: This would be a shame, as he has been a valuable resource.. Why has the list become more restrictive? I just verified this particular aspect of VGER's MTA configurations. It has been unmodified since

Re: goodbye

2001-04-07 Thread Colonel
In list.kernel, you wrote: On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 06:14:33PM -0700, Michael Peddemors wrote: I think that this is one list where we have to keep the ability to post from individuals separate from the need to make sure that their ISP or company is compliant to a set a of rules.. The LKML

Re: goodbye

2001-04-07 Thread john slee
On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 07:07:20PM -0700, Colonel wrote: Some ISPs rely on crap software OS to process email, and have other so you don't use those ISPs bad habits besides. Censorship usually does more bad than good (especially since dealing with 80% of the spam is trivial for procmail),

Re: goodbye

2001-04-07 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 12:56:21PM +1000, john slee wrote: Some ISPs rely on crap software OS to process email, and have other so you don't use those ISPs Not always an option. There are many places in the world in which your ISP is a monopoly. And even in your simplistic view of the

Re: goodbye

2001-04-07 Thread Ralf Baechle
On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 02:32:28AM +0300, Matti Aarnio wrote: The incentive behind the DUL is to force users not to post straight out to the world, but to use their ISP's servers for outbound email --- normal M$ users do that, after all. Only spammers - and UNIX

Re: goodbye

2001-04-07 Thread David Fries
On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 02:32:28AM +0300, Matti Aarnio wrote: On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 06:14:33PM -0700, Michael Peddemors wrote: Well, comparing how much spam goes thru linux-mm vs. linux-kernel, I would say our methods are fairly effective. The incentive behind the DUL is

Re: goodbye

2001-04-07 Thread Stephen Satchell
At 09:02 PM 4/7/01 -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: Not always an option. There are many places in the world in which your ISP is a monopoly. And even in your simplistic view of the world, there are many places in the United States where you are held captibe by not having more than one local ISP.

Re: goodbye

2001-04-07 Thread Graham Murray
Matti Aarnio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just verified this particular aspect of VGER's MTA configurations. It has been unmodified since 21-Mar-2000, that is, over a year... On the subject of vger configuration, the FAQ states that vger "will" start using ECN as of 22 Feb

Re: goodbye

2001-04-03 Thread Michael Peddemors
This would be a shame, as he has been a valuable resource.. Why has the list become more restrictive? I think that this is one list where we have to keep the ability to post from individuals separate from the need to make sure that their ISP or company is compliant to a set a of rules.. The

Re: Goodbye

2001-04-03 Thread Ion Badulescu
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:56:57 -0500, Matthew Fredrickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have decided to leave lkml because everybody else is doing it too. I have decided to switch to Windows because everybody else is doing it too. Oh, wait.. wrong mailing list. It's not hosted on aol.com. :-)

Goodbye

2001-04-03 Thread Matthew Fredrickson
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Goodbye

2001-04-03 Thread Matthew Fredrickson
I have decided to leave lkml because everybody else is doing it too. Matthew Fredrickson - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ

Re: Goodbye

2001-04-03 Thread Ion Badulescu
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:56:57 -0500, Matthew Fredrickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have decided to leave lkml because everybody else is doing it too. I have decided to switch to Windows because everybody else is doing it too. Oh, wait.. wrong mailing list. It's not hosted on aol.com. :-) Ion

Re: goodbye

2001-04-03 Thread Michael Peddemors
This would be a shame, as he has been a valuable resource.. Why has the list become more restrictive? I think that this is one list where we have to keep the ability to post from individuals separate from the need to make sure that their ISP or company is compliant to a set a of rules.. The