On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:17 AM, Alexander Holler wrote:
> Am 06.11.2013 14:42, schrieb Keith Curtis:
>
>> I don't know if you all should spend time working only on bugs, but I
>> believe more time should be spent on the bug *list*. There are many
>> users patiently waiting for the kernel to work
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:17 AM, Alexander Holler hol...@ahsoftware.de wrote:
Am 06.11.2013 14:42, schrieb Keith Curtis:
I don't know if you all should spend time working only on bugs, but I
believe more time should be spent on the bug *list*. There are many
users patiently waiting for the
On Nov 3, 2013, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> we'll have 4.0 follow 3.19 or something like that.
> we could do a release with just stability and bug-fixes
> the reason I mention "4.0" is that it would be a lovely time to do
> that.
That sounds backwards. .0s are known for instability and major
On Nov 3, 2013, Linus Torvalds torva...@linux-foundation.org wrote:
we'll have 4.0 follow 3.19 or something like that.
we could do a release with just stability and bug-fixes
the reason I mention 4.0 is that it would be a lovely time to do
that.
That sounds backwards. .0s are known for
Am 06.11.2013 14:42, schrieb Keith Curtis:
I don't know if you all should spend time working only on bugs, but I
believe more time should be spent on the bug *list*. There are many
users patiently waiting for the kernel to work for their computer. The
pleas for help can be read in the bug
* Greg KH wrote:
> > Thirdly, _users_ interested in stability can already go to the -stable
> > kernel, will will suck up 1 cycle worth of bugfixes out of the main
> > flow of changes. So users already have a stability choice of v-latest
> > and 'v-latest - 1' - plus the 'long term' stable
* Greg KH gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote:
Thirdly, _users_ interested in stability can already go to the -stable
kernel, will will suck up 1 cycle worth of bugfixes out of the main
flow of changes. So users already have a stability choice of v-latest
and 'v-latest - 1' - plus the
Am 06.11.2013 14:42, schrieb Keith Curtis:
I don't know if you all should spend time working only on bugs, but I
believe more time should be spent on the bug *list*. There are many
users patiently waiting for the kernel to work for their computer. The
pleas for help can be read in the bug
On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 07:25:40AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> > So I may be pessimistic, but I'd expect many developers would go "Let's
> > hunt bugs.. Wait. Oooh, shiny" and go off doing some new feature after
> > all instead. Or just take that release off.
> >
I don't know if you all should spend time working only on bugs, but I
believe more time should be spent on the bug *list*. There are many
users patiently waiting for the kernel to work for their computer. The
pleas for help can be read in the bug database. The data can be used
to determine the
I don't know if you all should spend time working only on bugs, but I
believe more time should be spent on the bug *list*. There are many
users patiently waiting for the kernel to work for their computer. The
pleas for help can be read in the bug database. The data can be used
to determine the
On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 07:25:40AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
* Linus Torvalds torva...@linux-foundation.org wrote:
So I may be pessimistic, but I'd expect many developers would go Let's
hunt bugs.. Wait. Oooh, shiny and go off doing some new feature after
all instead. Or just take
Am 04.11.2013 20:49, schrieb Geert Uytterhoeven:
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Alexander Holler wrote:
3.14
3.141
3.1415
3.14159
3.141592
3.1415926
(...)
4.0
Since when does \pi converge to 4.0?
Since 3.12 > 3.9. ;)
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> The reason I mention it is because I've been mulling over something
> Dirk Hohndel said during LinuxCon EU and the kernel summit. He asked
> at the Q session whether we could do a release with just stability
> and bug-fixes, and I pooh-poohed it because I didn't see most of us
> having the
On 11/04/2013 01:10 AM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
...
Anyway..
Onto a totally different topic: we're getting to release numbers where
I have to take off my socks to count that high again. I'm ok with
3., but I don't want us to get to the kinds of crazy
numbers we had in the 2.x series, so at
Am 04.11.2013 20:49, schrieb Geert Uytterhoeven:
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Alexander Holler wrote:
3.14
3.141
3.1415
3.14159
3.141592
3.1415926
(...)
4.0
Since when does \pi converge to 4.0?
The attention span of most people is usually limited, so they won't
follow very long.
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Linus Torvalds
wrote:
> The reason I mention it is because I've been mulling over something
> Dirk Hohndel said during LinuxCon EU and the kernel summit. He asked
> at the Q session whether we could do a release with just stability
> and bug-fixes, and I
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
>>> So I may be pessimistic, but I'd expect many developers would go "Let's
>>> hunt bugs.. Wait. Oooh, shiny" and go off doing some new feature after
>>> all instead. Or just take that release off.
>>>
>>> But I do wonder.. Maybe it would be
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Alexander Holler wrote:
> 3.14
> 3.141
> 3.1415
> 3.14159
> 3.141592
> 3.1415926
> (...)
> 4.0
Since when does \pi converge to 4.0?
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
Geert
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On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
>> So I may be pessimistic, but I'd expect many developers would go "Let's
>> hunt bugs.. Wait. Oooh, shiny" and go off doing some new feature after
>> all instead. Or just take that release off.
>>
>> But I do
Am 04.11.2013 01:10, schrieb Linus Torvalds:
(...)
Onto a totally different topic: we're getting to release numbers where
I have to take off my socks to count that high again. I'm ok with
3., but I don't want us to get to the kinds of crazy
numbers we had in the 2.x series, so at some point
Am 04.11.2013 01:10, schrieb Linus Torvalds:
(...)
Onto a totally different topic: we're getting to release numbers where
I have to take off my socks to count that high again. I'm ok with
3.low teens, but I don't want us to get to the kinds of crazy
numbers we had in the 2.x series, so at some
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Ingo Molnar mi...@kernel.org wrote:
* Linus Torvalds torva...@linux-foundation.org wrote:
So I may be pessimistic, but I'd expect many developers would go Let's
hunt bugs.. Wait. Oooh, shiny and go off doing some new feature after
all instead. Or just take
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Alexander Holler hol...@ahsoftware.de wrote:
3.14
3.141
3.1415
3.14159
3.141592
3.1415926
(...)
4.0
Since when does \pi converge to 4.0?
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
Geert
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On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
So I may be pessimistic, but I'd expect many developers would go Let's
hunt bugs.. Wait. Oooh, shiny and go off doing some new feature after
all instead. Or just take that release off.
But I do wonder.. Maybe it would
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Linus Torvalds
torva...@linux-foundation.org wrote:
The reason I mention it is because I've been mulling over something
Dirk Hohndel said during LinuxCon EU and the kernel summit. He asked
at the QA session whether we could do a release with just stability
and
Am 04.11.2013 20:49, schrieb Geert Uytterhoeven:
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Alexander Holler hol...@ahsoftware.de wrote:
3.14
3.141
3.1415
3.14159
3.141592
3.1415926
(...)
4.0
Since when does \pi converge to 4.0?
The attention span of most people is usually limited, so they won't
On 11/04/2013 01:10 AM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
...
Anyway..
Onto a totally different topic: we're getting to release numbers where
I have to take off my socks to count that high again. I'm ok with
3.low teens, but I don't want us to get to the kinds of crazy
numbers we had in the 2.x series,
The reason I mention it is because I've been mulling over something
Dirk Hohndel said during LinuxCon EU and the kernel summit. He asked
at the QA session whether we could do a release with just stability
and bug-fixes, and I pooh-poohed it because I didn't see most of us
having the attention
Am 04.11.2013 20:49, schrieb Geert Uytterhoeven:
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Alexander Holler hol...@ahsoftware.de wrote:
3.14
3.141
3.1415
3.14159
3.141592
3.1415926
(...)
4.0
Since when does \pi converge to 4.0?
Since 3.12 3.9. ;)
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* Linus Torvalds wrote:
> So I may be pessimistic, but I'd expect many developers would go "Let's
> hunt bugs.. Wait. Oooh, shiny" and go off doing some new feature after
> all instead. Or just take that release off.
>
> But I do wonder.. Maybe it would be possible, and I'm just unfairly
>
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Linus Torvalds
wrote:
> And the reason I mention "4.0" is that it would be a lovely time to do
> that. Roughly a years heads-up that "ok, after 3.19 (or whatever),
> we're doing a release with *just* fixes, and then that becomes 4.0".
>
> Comments?
Unless you are
I was vacillating whether to do an rc8 or just cut the final 3.12, but
since the biggest reason to *not* do a final release was not so much
the state of the code, as simply the fact that I'll be traveling with
very bad internet connection next week, I didn't really want to delay
the release. Sure,
I was vacillating whether to do an rc8 or just cut the final 3.12, but
since the biggest reason to *not* do a final release was not so much
the state of the code, as simply the fact that I'll be traveling with
very bad internet connection next week, I didn't really want to delay
the release. Sure,
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Linus Torvalds
torva...@linux-foundation.org wrote:
And the reason I mention 4.0 is that it would be a lovely time to do
that. Roughly a years heads-up that ok, after 3.19 (or whatever),
we're doing a release with *just* fixes, and then that becomes 4.0.
* Linus Torvalds torva...@linux-foundation.org wrote:
So I may be pessimistic, but I'd expect many developers would go Let's
hunt bugs.. Wait. Oooh, shiny and go off doing some new feature after
all instead. Or just take that release off.
But I do wonder.. Maybe it would be possible, and
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