Re: 2.4.1 crashes every two days, oopses included

2001-02-19 Thread Martin Rode
Rik van Riel wrote: On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Martin Rode wrote: My last bug report did not seem to attract to much attention. For now we have switched back to 2.2.18 which stays up for about a week before it crashes because of the VM too. [snip] VM: reclaim_page, wrong page on

Re: Linux OS boilerplate

2001-02-19 Thread Paul Gortmaker
Scott Long wrote: I've been poring over the x86 boot code for a while now and I've been considering writing a FAQ on the boot process (mostly for my own use, [...] Does there exist an outline (detailed or not) of the boot process from the point of BIOS bootsector load to when the kernel

Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-19 Thread Helge Hafting
"Henning P. Schmiedehausen" wrote: _BUT_ all these people that want to use Linux ask sometimes for help outside their vendor contracts, they get told exactly this: "Go away where. You're not using the "one true source from kernel.org". They're more locked it with their "open software" than

Re: Kernel executation from ROM

2001-02-19 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article 01e701c09a2a$21e789a0$bba6b3d0@Toshiba you wrote: I see . The biggest negative point of running kernel from ROM is that ROM speed is slow :( Well, normally you use the ROM only as a "boot device". You copy the Kernel into RAM and run it. Ram is not more expensive than ROM :) What

Re: ip_conntrack error under 2.4.1-ac18

2001-02-19 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Feb 18 23:05:50 rhino kernel: ip_conntrack: maximum limit of 8184 entries exceed ed while running nessus, with 100 simultaneous connections set, against a company machine. This is the first time I've observed this error. It is not an error, you just

Re: anyone can tell me 2.4.2 is stable or not?

2001-02-19 Thread Jeff Garzik
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Thomas Lau wrote: is it stable for use? Is the world a wonderful, beautiful place? Both are subjective questions. 2.4 has been stable for me for quite a long time, as it has been for many others. It totally depends on your hardware, and what you are doing. I would say

Re: Linux 2.4.1-ac15

2001-02-19 Thread Philipp Rumpf
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Alan Cox wrote: Question of the day for the VM folks: If CPU1 is loading the exception tables for a module and CPU2 faults.. what happens 8) "loading" == in sys_create_module ? The module list is modified atomically, so either we search the new table or

test

2001-02-19 Thread Jiri Kroupa
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Re: kernel_thread() thread starting

2001-02-19 Thread Philipp Rumpf
On Sun, 18 Feb 2001, Kenn Humborg wrote: in the .config, I can get schedule_task() to fail with: schedule_task(): keventd has not started This shouldn't be a failure case, just a (bogus) printk. When starting bdflush and kupdated, bdflush_init() uses a semaphore to make sure that the

Re: kernel_thread() thread starting

2001-02-19 Thread David Woodhouse
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Why bother ? It looks like a leftover debugging message which doesn't make a lot of sense once the code is stable (what might make sense is checking keventd is still around, but that's not what the code is doing). Proposed patch: dwmw2 ? Don't look at me. I

Re: Proliant hangs with 2.4 but works with 2.2.

2001-02-19 Thread lafanga lafanga
Alan, You were spot on. Indeed touching the device file causes it to hang. Should I recompile the kernel in a particular way to avoid this? Many Thanks. From: Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (lafanga lafanga) CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Proliant hangs with 2.4 but

Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-19 Thread Werner Almesberger
Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote: Company wants to make at least some bucks with their products and the driver is part of the product. So they may want to release a driver which is "closed source". Usually, the driver doesn't play a large role in product differentiation, at least not in a

Re: [PATCH] starfire reads irq before pci_enable_device.

2001-02-19 Thread Jes Sorensen
"David" == David S Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David I think this is an Acenic specific issue. The second processor David on the Acenic board is only there to work around bugs in their David DMA controller. It wasn't put there for that reason. It was intended for better work ;-) Jes -

Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-19 Thread Jeff Garzik
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Werner Almesberger wrote: Now what's at stake ? Look at the Windows world. Also there, companies could release their drivers as Open Source. Quick, how many do this ? Almost none. So, given the choice, most companies have defaulted to closed source. Consistently

Re: problems with reiserfs + nfs using 2.4.2-pre4

2001-02-19 Thread Alan Cox
I hope to put out a patch set for testing in a day or so and possibly suggest it to Alan for his -ac series. I don't see it going into 2.4.2, but 2.4.3 might be possible if Linus agrees. Im not interested in a patch that requires NFS is hacked for each file system that tells me the

Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-19 Thread Nicholas Knight
- Original Message - From: "Jeff Garzik" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Werner Almesberger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Henning P. Schmiedehausen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 3:07 AM Subject: Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation... On Mon, 19 Feb

Re: Proliant hangs with 2.4 but works with 2.2.

2001-02-19 Thread Alan Cox
You were spot on. Indeed touching the device file causes it to hang. Should I recompile the kernel in a particular way to avoid this? I'd be interested to know if 2.2.19pre works or not. I'd like to fix the hang most definitely. As a short term cure rm /dev/psaux you can use mknod to put

Re: Linux 2.4.1-ac15

2001-02-19 Thread Alan Cox
The module list is modified atomically, so either we search the new table or we don't, but we never see intermediate states. Not searching the new table shouldn't be a problem as we shouldn't run module code until sys_init_module time. The problem isnt running module code. What happens in

Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-19 Thread David Lang
before you go to far in condemming companies, note that even transmeta is in this situation with their docs. when Linus was asked about documentation for the longrun config stuff he stated that whil trasmeta was planning to release both docs and source, they were not willing to release them in

Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-19 Thread Jeff Garzik
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Nicholas Knight wrote: From: "Jeff Garzik" [EMAIL PROTECTED] FWIW, -every single- Windows driver source code I've seen has been bloody awful. Asking them to release that code would probably result in embarrassment. Same reasoning why many companies won't release

Re: Linux 2.4.1-ac15

2001-02-19 Thread Philipp Rumpf
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Alan Cox wrote: mod-next = module_list; put_mod_name() here. module_list = mod; /* link it in */ Note no write barrier. put_mod_name calls free_page which always implies a memory barrier. This isn't beautiful but it won't blow up either.

Re: Linux 2.4.1-ac15

2001-02-19 Thread Keith Owens
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:35:08 + (GMT), Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem isnt running module code. What happens in this case mod-next = module_list; module_list = mod; /* link it in */ Note no write barrier. humourIt works on ix86 so the code must be

Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-19 Thread Henning P . Schmiedehausen
On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 11:53:14AM +0100, Werner Almesberger wrote: Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote: Fine. So you've reinvented AIX, HP-UX, SCO, etc. The question is what you expect from Linux. After all, you strongly disagree with the main common denominator of Linux developers, that it be

Re: quotaon -guav on 2.4.1-ac15

2001-02-19 Thread Lech Szychowski
quotaon: using /home/vhosts/b/quota.user on /dev/sda3: Invalid argument quotaon: using /home/vhosts/a/quota.user on /dev/sdb1: Invalid argument I believe -ac family has Jan Kara quota patches and therefore you need his quota-3 utilites, avaliable from

Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-19 Thread Werner Almesberger
Jeff Garzik wrote: FWIW, -every single- Windows driver source code I've seen has been bloody awful. Asking them to release that code would probably result in embarrassment. Maybe a good analogy is that drivers are to hardware companies like excrements are to living creatures: in order to

PATCH: linux-2.4.2-pre4/drivers/media/video/cpia_usb.c device ID update

2001-02-19 Thread Adam J. Richter
The following one line patch updates the cpia_usb driver in linux-2.4.2-pre4 to include the additional device ID that already appears in http://download.sourceforge.net/webcam/cpia-1.2.tgz. This patch is necessary to make cpia_usb work with the Intel QX3 microscope and possibly other

Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-19 Thread Henning P . Schmiedehausen
On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 05:07:02AM -0600, Jeff Garzik wrote: On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Werner Almesberger wrote: Now what's at stake ? Look at the Windows world. Also there, companies could release their drivers as Open Source. Quick, how many do this ? Almost none. So, given the choice, most

Re: Linux 2.4.1-ac15

2001-02-19 Thread Philipp Rumpf
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Keith Owens wrote: On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:35:08 + (GMT), Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem isnt running module code. What happens in this case mod-next = module_list; module_list = mod; /* link it in */ Note no write barrier.

Re: kernel_thread() thread starting

2001-02-19 Thread Andrew Morton
David Woodhouse wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Why bother ? It looks like a leftover debugging message which doesn't make a lot of sense once the code is stable (what might make sense is checking keventd is still around, but that's not what the code is doing). keventd *must* still

Flusing caches on shutdown

2001-02-19 Thread David Balazic
(( CC me the replies, as I'm not subscribed to LKML )) Hi! It is a good idea IMO to flush the write cache of storage devices at shutdown and other critical moments. I browsed through linux-2.4.1 and see no use of the SYNCHRONIZE CACHE SCSI command ( curiously it is defined in several other

Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-19 Thread Nicholas Knight
- Original Message - From: "Jeff Garzik" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Nicholas Knight" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 3:47 AM Subject: Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation... On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Nicholas Knight wrote: From: "Jeff Garzik"

[PATCH] 2.4.1-ac16: add CDROM_LOCKDOOR ioctl to IDE floppies

2001-02-19 Thread Francis Galiegue
Patch below. It Work For Me(tm) with an IDE ZIP drive. --- drivers/ide/ide-floppy.c.oldMon Feb 19 13:39:55 2001 +++ drivers/ide/ide-floppy.cMon Feb 19 13:48:53 2001 @@ -1517,15 +1517,21 @@ unsigned int cmd, unsigned long arg) { idefloppy_pc_t

Re: PROBLEM: pci bridge fails to wake up from suspend/resume( Inspiron 8000 )

2001-02-19 Thread Andrew Morton
Morten Stenseth wrote: Hello , i have some problems with my inspiron 8000 running kernler 2.4.1-ac16 and hope someone on this list can help me. Did you enable eepro100 power management? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to

[PATCH] check_region() removal: drivers/media/video/pms.c

2001-02-19 Thread Andrey Panin
Hi all, I think subject is self explaining :)) Best regards. -- Andrey Panin| Embedded systems software engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED]| PGP key: http://www.orbita1.ru/~pazke/AndreyPanin.asc --- /linux/drivers/media/video/pms.c.orig Mon Feb 19 19:33:26 2001 +++

Re: Linux OS boilerplate

2001-02-19 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been poring over the x86 boot code for a while now and I've been considering writing a FAQ on the boot process (mostly for my own use, but maybe others will be interested). This would include all relevant information on setting up the x86 hardware

Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-19 Thread Werner Almesberger
Henning P . Schmiedehausen wrote: No, I don't. I don't at all. But I prefer a more pragmatic approach to the developers and companies who don't. I actually think it's good if we appear to be a little more "hard-liners" than we really are. If companies assume that only open source will get them

Re: Linux 2.4.1-ac15

2001-02-19 Thread Keith Owens
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 06:15:22 -0600 (CST), Philipp Rumpf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless I'm mistaken, we need both use counts and SMP magic (though not necessarily as extreme as what the "freeze all other CPUs during module unload" patch did). I think something like this would work (in addition

Re: Linux 2.4.1-ac15

2001-02-19 Thread Christoph Hellwig
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: No need for a callin routine, you can get this for free as part of normal scheduling. The sequence goes :- if (use_count == 0) { module_unregister(); wait_for_at_least_one_schedule_on_every_cpu(); if (use_count != 0) { module_register();

ethernet driver probs (tulip, de4x5, 3c509)

2001-02-19 Thread Manfred Bartz
I have 3 NICs (2*DEC, 1*3c509) in my gateway (P75, 40M RAM). tulip.o in 2.4.1 insists on selecting 10baseT, no command line option can convince it otherwise. tulip.o in 2.2.16 auto detected media and worked fine. de4x5.o in 2.4.1 needs to be told the media, then works fine. de4x5.o in 2.2.16

Re: Linux 2.4.1-ac15

2001-02-19 Thread Philipp Rumpf
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Keith Owens wrote: On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 06:15:22 -0600 (CST), Philipp Rumpf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No need for a callin routine, you can get this for free as part of normal scheduling. The sequence goes :- if (use_count == 0) { module_unregister();

2.2.19pre13: Are there network problem with a low-bandwidth link?

2001-02-19 Thread TenThumbs
When I am a) using modem ppp connection and b) downloading a file from a reasonably fast server so that the incoming connection is saturated, then attempting to open a new network tcp connection while this is going on fails quite regularly. The user app gets a ECONNRESET error. Investigation

Re: kernel_thread() thread starting

2001-02-19 Thread Philipp Rumpf
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Andrew Morton wrote: David Woodhouse wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Why bother ? It looks like a leftover debugging message which doesn't make a lot of sense once the code is stable (what might make sense is checking keventd is still around, but that's not what

sendfile from char device?

2001-02-19 Thread Matthew Kirkwood
Hi, I'm looking for a fast way to initialise a file to zeroes (without holes) and reckoned that sendfile from /dev/zero would be the way to go. But, unfortunately, sendfile (in 2.2 and 2.4) appears not to support sendfile(2)ing a device: $ cat foo.c main() { if(sendfile(1, 0, 0, 1024)

Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-19 Thread David Howells
I suspect part of the problem with commercial driver support on Linux is that the Linux driver API (such as it is) is relatively poorly documented and seems to change almost on a week-by-week basis anyway. I've done my share of chasing the current kernel revision with drivers that aren't part of

Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-19 Thread Jes Sorensen
"Jeff" == Jeff Garzik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jeff On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Werner Almesberger wrote: Now what's at stake ? Look at the Windows world. Also there, companies could release their drivers as Open Source. Quick, how many do this ? Almost none. So, given the choice, most companies

[PATCH] fix bad dev-refcnt in unregister_netdevice was Re: [PATCH] to deal with bad dev-refcnt in unregister_netdevice()

2001-02-19 Thread Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
Hi, Found it, here's the patch, please apply. Not using auto creation of interfaces we're using dev_get_by_name, that does a dev_hold, on ipx_auto_create we're not doing it, duh 8) Tested with several combinhations of unpluging pcmcia card, just ifconfig eth0 down, etc - Arnaldo ---

Re: Proliant hangs with 2.4 but works with 2.2.

2001-02-19 Thread lafanga lafanga
Alan, I'll be happy to test out 2.2.19pre. I'm having a little difficulty locating it though on kernel.org. Can you or somebody send me a URL for this. Thanks. From: Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (lafanga lafanga) CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

Kernel Oops

2001-02-19 Thread Alberto Bertogli
Yesterday I got an oops in a Dell PowerEdge 4100/200. It was almost idle (the process list is listed below). There was no SysRQ, VT, hd work, network or keyboard response. The oops was, obviously, copied by hand; and kernel is plain 2.4.1 compiled with egcs 2.91.66. uname -a: Linux sol 2.4.1 #3

Re: sendfile from char device?

2001-02-19 Thread Jeff Garzik
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Matthew Kirkwood wrote: I'm looking for a fast way to initialise a file to zeroes (without holes) and reckoned that sendfile from /dev/zero would be the way to go. But, unfortunately, sendfile (in 2.2 and 2.4) appears not to support sendfile(2)ing a device: Correct...

Re: sendfile from char device?

2001-02-19 Thread Matthew Kirkwood
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Jeff Garzik wrote: But, unfortunately, sendfile (in 2.2 and 2.4) appears not to support sendfile(2)ing a device: Correct... sendfile(2) is only for sources/destinations that can be ripped through the page cache. I knew that, but was surprised that /dev/zero didn't

Re: ethernet driver probs (tulip, de4x5, 3c509)

2001-02-19 Thread Jeff Garzik
On 20 Feb 2001, Manfred Bartz wrote: I have 3 NICs (2*DEC, 1*3c509) in my gateway (P75, 40M RAM). tulip.o in 2.4.1 insists on selecting 10baseT, no command line option can convince it otherwise. tulip.o in 2.2.16 auto detected media and worked fine. A little info on your cards would be

Kernel Oops attachments

2001-02-19 Thread Alberto Bertogli
Sorry, i had a little problem sending the attachments in my last email. Here they are. Thanks again, Alberto Linux version 2.4.1 (root@sol) (gcc version egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release)) #3 SMP Wed Feb 14 18:14:33 ARST 2001 BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820:

Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-19 Thread Jeff Garzik
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, David Howells wrote: I suspect part of the problem with commercial driver support on Linux is that the Linux driver API (such as it is) is relatively poorly documented In-kernel documentation, agreed. _Linux Device Drivers_ is a good reference for 2.2 and below. and

Running Bind 9 on Redhat 7

2001-02-19 Thread Ansari
Hi !! I am configuring Bind 9 on Redhat 7 but unable to start the named. Here is my /var/log message log: Feb 20 09:49:58 ns2 named[2003]: starting BIND 9.0.0 Feb 20 09:49:58 ns2 named[2005]: loading configuration from '/var/named/named.bo ot' Feb 20 09:49:58 ns2 named[2005]: the default for

Re: mke2fs and kernel VM issues

2001-02-19 Thread Andrea Arcangeli
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 04:44:48AM -0800, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote: Note that this only shows up when using mke2fs to create very large filesystems, and you have relatively little memory. In this particular If you can reproduce the oom of mke2fs on recent 2.2.19pre, could you try again after

Re: Linux 2.4.1-ac15

2001-02-19 Thread Manfred Spraul
Keith Owens wrote: wait_for_at_least_one_schedule_on_every_cpu(); what about spin_unlock_wait(global_exception_lock); The actual exception table waker uses spin_lock_irqsave(global_exception_lock); spin_unlock_irqsave(global_exception_lock); Or a simple spinlock -

RE: aic7xxx (and sym53c8xx) plans

2001-02-19 Thread Nathan Black
Actuall, I have tried it on a few machines now. It "seems" to work very reliable with a 2940UW card, AIC 7890 chip, and a 2940U2W Card that I have on my machines.(obviously these are all different machines). Nathan -Original Message- From: Peter Samuelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Re: problems with reiserfs + nfs using 2.4.2-pre4

2001-02-19 Thread Chris Mason
On Monday, February 19, 2001 01:55:57 AM + Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it had been cleared up. In particular, the Configure.help in 2.4.2-pre4 says "reiserfs can be used for anything that ext2 can be used for". The configure.help is wrong on that and one other thing. NFS doesnt

can i change the ip masq ports?

2001-02-19 Thread Felvegi Peter Andras
hello, i've run to the following problem recently: i had to install ip masq to a server to provide inet access for the computers on the lan. it didn't work, i spent a few days with it browsing the howto, configuring the firewall, etc. at the end it turned out, that the evil isp filters the

Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-19 Thread Mikulas Patocka
I suspect part of the problem with commercial driver support on Linux is that the Linux driver API (such as it is) is relatively poorly documented In-kernel documentation, agreed. _Linux Device Drivers_ is a good reference for 2.2 and below. And do implementators of generic kernel

Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-19 Thread Richard B. Johnson
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Jeff Garzik wrote: On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, David Howells wrote: I suspect part of the problem with commercial driver support on Linux is that the Linux driver API (such as it is) is relatively poorly documented In-kernel documentation, agreed. _Linux Device Drivers_

Re: Linux 2.4.1-ac15

2001-02-19 Thread Alan Cox
Rusty had a patch that locked the module list properly IIRC. So does -ac now. I just take a spinlock for the modify cases that race against faults (including vmalloc faults from irq context) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to

Re: quotaon -guav on 2.4.1-ac15

2001-02-19 Thread Alan Cox
quotaon: using /home/vhosts/b/quota.user on /dev/sda3: Invalid argument quotaon: using /home/vhosts/a/quota.user on /dev/sdb1: Invalid argument I believe -ac family has Jan Kara quota patches and therefore you need his quota-3 utilites, avaliable from

Re: Linux 2.4.1-ac15

2001-02-19 Thread Alan Cox
At the same time another cpu may be walking the exception table that we free. Another good reason why locking modules via use counts from external code is not the right fix. We definitely need a quiesce model for module removal. My spinlock based fix has almost no contention and doesnt

Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-19 Thread Paul Jakma
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Henning P . Schmiedehausen wrote: So, is it legal to put changes to a twin licensed driver in the Linux kernel tree back into the same driver in the BSD tree? IANAL, but AIUI: if the changes are made the copyright holder then they may do whatever they want. (release the

Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-19 Thread Alan Cox
So, is it legal to put changes to a twin licensed driver in the Linux kernel tree back into the same driver in the BSD tree? Just make it plain that patches and contributions to that driver must be dual licensed. We have several shared drivers with BSD and most people seem happy that small

Re: Running Bind 9 on Redhat 7

2001-02-19 Thread Paul Jakma
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Ansari wrote: Hi !! I am configuring Bind 9 on Redhat 7 but unable to start the named. Here is my /var/log message log: you have a config problem i think. Feb 20 09:49:58 ns2 named[2005]: loading zones: no ttl you need to put: $TTL ttl, eg 1D at the beginning of

Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-19 Thread Jeff Garzik
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote: One of the latest module killers was the opaque type, "THIS_MODULE", put at the beginning of struct file_operations. This happened between 2.4.0 and 2.4.x. So it's not "imagination". Richard, Time to join the rest of us on planet Earth. That

Re: Proliant hangs with 2.4 but works with 2.2.

2001-02-19 Thread Alan Cox
I'll be happy to test out 2.2.19pre. I'm having a little difficulty locating it though on kernel.org. Can you or somebody send me a URL for this. ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/alan/... each 2.2.19pre patch is versus the 2.2.18 base ie tar xvfz linux-2.2.18.tar.gz

Re: Linux 2.4.1-ac15

2001-02-19 Thread Philipp Rumpf
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Alan Cox wrote: Rusty had a patch that locked the module list properly IIRC. So does -ac now. I just take a spinlock for the modify cases that race against faults (including vmalloc faults from irq context) so you hold a spinlock during copy_from_user ? Or did you

Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-19 Thread Jeff Garzik
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Mikulas Patocka wrote: I suspect part of the problem with commercial driver support on Linux is that the Linux driver API (such as it is) is relatively poorly documented In-kernel documentation, agreed. _Linux Device Drivers_ is a good reference for 2.2 and

Re: Running Bind 9 on Redhat 7

2001-02-19 Thread dek_ml
Ansari writes: Hi !! I am configuring Bind 9 on Redhat 7 but unable to start the named. Here is my /var/log message log: Feb 20 09:49:58 ns2 named[2003]: starting BIND 9.0.0 Feb 20 09:49:58 ns2 named[2005]: loading configuration from '/var/named/named.bo ot' Feb 20 09:49:58 ns2 named[2005]:

Re: Linux 2.4.1-ac15

2001-02-19 Thread Alan Cox
so you hold a spinlock during copy_from_user ? Or did you change sys_init_module/sys_create_modules semantics ? The only points I need to hold a spinlock are editing the chain and walking it in a case where I dont hold the kernel lock. So I spin_lock_irqsave the two ops updating the list

Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-19 Thread Alan Cox
One of the latest module killers was the opaque type, "THIS_MODULE", put at the beginning of struct file_operations. This happened between 2.4.0 and 2.4.x. So it's not "imagination". No it happened before 2.4.0 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in

Re: Linux 2.4.1-ac15

2001-02-19 Thread Philipp Rumpf
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Alan Cox wrote: so you hold a spinlock during copy_from_user ? Or did you change sys_init_module/sys_create_modules semantics ? The only points I need to hold a spinlock are editing the chain and walking it in a case where I dont hold the kernel lock. So I

[PATCH] sys_semop() EIDRM BUG fix

2001-02-19 Thread Hugh Dickins
sys_semop() is wrong to insist that queue.status be -EIDRM when sem_lock() fails on awakening. It is quite normal for update_queue() to have set status 0, removed process from queue and woken it; but IPC_RMID come in before that process gets to run (or to lock) - since process already off queue,

[PATCH] IPC id checks off-by-one

2001-02-19 Thread Hugh Dickins
Five IPC id checks against array size are off-by-one. Only the last instance, in ipc_lock(), really matters; but all should be fixed to set the right example. diff -urN linux-2.4.2-pre4/ipc/msg.c linux/ipc/msg.c --- linux-2.4.2-pre4/ipc/msg.c Sat Feb 17 11:14:26 2001 +++ linux/ipc/msg.c Sun

Re: Linux 2.4.1-ac15

2001-02-19 Thread Alan Cox
So you fixed the nonexistent race only. The real race is that the module Umm I fixed the small race. You are right that there is a second race. uninitialized vmalloc'd (module_map'd) memory), then the module data (including the exception table) gets copied. The race window is from the

Re: usb audio

2001-02-19 Thread Thomas Sailer
Landsberger Brian J wrote: Has anyone been able to get the Apple Pro (the round clear) speakers to work in Linux? I've read the howto's and followed the various steps to no avail. The various usb modules print the following to syslog: This looks ok. So what is wrong? Tom - To

Re: Linux 2.4.1-ac15

2001-02-19 Thread Philipp Rumpf
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Alan Cox wrote: So you fixed the nonexistent race only. The real race is that the module Umm I fixed the small race. You are right that there is a second race. There's just one race. The small race is nonexistent since put_mod_name always acts as a memory barrier.

Re: Samba performance / zero-copy network I/O

2001-02-19 Thread Gord R. Lamb
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Anton Blanchard wrote: Hmm. Yeah, I think that may be one of the problems (Intel's card isn't supported afaik; if I have to I'll switch to 3com, or hopelessly try to implement support). I'm looking for a patch to implement sendfile in Samba, as Alan suggested.

Re: Flusing caches on shutdown

2001-02-19 Thread Ingo Oeser
On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 01:45:57PM +0100, David Balazic wrote: It is a good idea IMO to flush the write cache of storage devices at shutdown and other critical moments. Not needed. All device drivers should disable write caches of their devices, that need another signal than switching it off

Re: Kernel executation from ROM

2001-02-19 Thread Jeremy Jackson
Jaswinder Singh wrote: Dear Sirs, Thanks for your help, I see . The biggest negative point of running kernel from ROM is that ROM speed is slow :( Also, the PCI specification forbids executing code from ROMs over the PCI bus. The system BIOS in a PC is not on the PCI bus, bus, but

Re: Linux 2.4.1-ac15

2001-02-19 Thread Alan Cox
You can have exceptions while initializing. not MOD_RUNNING|MOD_INITIALIZING should work though. True. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

ymfpci is 2.4.1-ac18

2001-02-19 Thread Pavel Roskin
Hello, Pete! I understand that you tried to implement the native synthesizer for YMF PCI cards. Thank you for your efforts! Unfortunately, it doesn't work for me. Linux 2.4.1-ac18 is compiled with CONFIG_SOUND_YMFPCI=m and CONFIG_SOUND_YMFPCI_LEGACY=y. When I load ymfpci, the kernel messages

Re: ymfpci is 2.4.1-ac18

2001-02-19 Thread Alan Cox
If I load opl3, /dev/sound/sequencer becomes useful - cat doesn't exit and dmesg shows: /dev/music: Obsolete (4 byte) API was used by cat You need opl3. The ymfpci driver is the dsp and enabler for the opl3 gunge - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in

Linus put out 2.4.2pre4 so I merged with that and put out 2.4.1ac17 ---what does it mean?

2001-02-19 Thread Thomas Lau
is it mean alan merged all 2.4.2 code into ac17 hacks ? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: Proliant hangs with 2.4 but works with 2.2.

2001-02-19 Thread lafanga lafanga
Alan, I have tried kernel version 2.2.19pre13 and it works with no problems whatsoever. Thanks. From: Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (lafanga lafanga) CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Proliant hangs with 2.4 but works with 2.2. Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001

Re: ymfpci is 2.4.1-ac18

2001-02-19 Thread Pavel Roskin
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Alan Cox wrote: If I load opl3, /dev/sound/sequencer becomes useful - cat doesn't exit and dmesg shows: /dev/music: Obsolete (4 byte) API was used by cat You need opl3. The ymfpci driver is the dsp and enabler for the opl3 gunge Then I don't understand this

Re: 2.4.1 crashes every two days, oopses included

2001-02-19 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Martin Rode [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rik van Riel wrote: On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Martin Rode wrote: My last bug report did not seem to attract to much attention. For now we have switched back to 2.2.18 which stays up for about a week before it crashes because of the VM too.

Re: reiserfs on 2.4.1,2.4.2-pre (with null bytes patch) breaks mozilla compile

2001-02-19 Thread Frank de Lange
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 06:18:46PM -0800, David wrote: Well, I run glibc-2.2.1 as well, so that might be one of the factors contributing to this. Then again, glibc-2.2.1 with ext2 does not cause any problems whatsoever with mozilla. So it could be that reiserfs + glibc-2.2.1 is a bad

Re: ymfpci is 2.4.1-ac18

2001-02-19 Thread Alan Cox
* - 2001/01/07 Replace the OPL3 part of CONFIG_SOUND_YMFPCI_LEGACY code with *native synthesizer through a playback slot. It sounds more promising than it is :-( Non old style OSS synthesizers dont support the legacy /dev/sequencer interface - To unsubscribe from this list: send the

Re: SO_SNDTIMEO: 2.4 kernel bugs

2001-02-19 Thread kuznet
Hello! You are right - our sendfile() implementation is broken. I have fixed it Thank you! Investigation shows that the Linux network layer is behaving oddly. It seems that we are writing 4096 bytes to a socket. This proceeds in 4096 byte chunks until the send buffer on the socket is

where can I found AMD k6-2+ optimized gcc ?

2001-02-19 Thread Thomas Lau
anyone have idea? I think someone was done before to optimizer AMD K6-2+ CPU in gcc patch. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the

Re: MTU and 2.4.x kernel

2001-02-19 Thread kuznet
Hello! We are implementing an IP stack. Alan, please, tell me what is wrong. And we will repair this. The implementation follows RFCs and even relaxes their requirements in the cases, when they are far from reality. Alexey - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe

support for i815 audio ?

2001-02-19 Thread Ionut Dumitrache
Should this onboard audio work with the i810 driver, in 2.2.x and 2.4.x ? The card is detected as ICH2, although the driver supports only ICH. Intel 810 + AC97 Audio, version 0.17, 17:24:05 Feb 17 2001 PCI: Increasing latency timer of device 00:fd to 64 i810: Intel ICH2 found at

i82562ET LAN (i815) timeout/lockup with eepro100 driver

2001-02-19 Thread Ionut Dumitrache
The integrated LAN on Intel boards with i815 chipset apparently is not fully supported. In latest 2.2.x and 2.4.x, with the EtherExpress Pro100 driver, after some network traffic, it locks. The only way I can use the net again is either reboot, or ifconfig eth0 down; ifconfig eth0 up.

Re: support for i815 audio ?

2001-02-19 Thread Alan Cox
ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, vendor id1: 0x4144, id2: 0x5360 (Analog Devices AD1885) i810_audio: Codec refused to allow VRA, using 48Khz only. i810_audio: Found 1 audio device(s). As seen above, playback is supported only for 48khz samples. If the codec only supports 48Khz samples then

The lack of specification (was Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation... )

2001-02-19 Thread Mikulas Patocka
I suspect part of the problem with commercial driver support on Linux is that the Linux driver API (such as it is) is relatively poorly documented In-kernel documentation, agreed. _Linux Device Drivers_ is a good reference for 2.2 and below. And do implementators of

Linux 2.4.1ac19

2001-02-19 Thread Alan Cox
ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/alan/2.4/ "An innovation a day keeps the monopolist away" 2.4.1-ac19 o Fix second module/exception table race (me) | I hope ;) o Additional CPIA usb ident (Adam J Richter) o

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