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Gabriel C wrote:
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built from 2.6.22-git9 config, used oldconfig. Crashes so early it
doesn't seem to get to the network card.
config: www.tmr.com/~davidsen/config-2.6.22-git13.gz
screen dump: www.tmr.com/~davidsen/dump-2.6.22-git13.jpg
Not much info, and probably
in the older
version, I'm going to put my efforts into other characterizations. The
test source will remain on the server, but I'm won't do more with it
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So is setting it to a random number considered correct behavior? Any of
the first three values I mentioned would make sense, but the value I see
is neither time since resume, time since power-on to do
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level extendeds).
How can I politely say this code really needs comments?
To quote the late R. W. Benway, If it was hard to write it should be
hard to understand.
(regarding code in FORTRAN II on punched cards, ca 1965)
Rene.
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cases, and there's
no log or oops data to help.
The sky2 driver is since nearly 2 years in the kernel and Stephen is
usually quite good at handling bugs.
Where does sky2 come in? Does this mean the the recent suggestion to
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labeled with such a keyword (at least in the list of git trees I
saw).
I suspect you wait for 2.5.23 release, or send it to AKPM for inclusion
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marked both these as 2.6.24 material. If you think
that was incorrect, please shout out.
I have the feeling that I mentioned nbd issues several releases ago, but
never got to getting more info on reproducing them. I try not to submit
bugs I can't reproduce, oftem they're my fault :-(
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. Without __update_curr it's
absolutely smooth from the start.
I posted a LOT of stuff using the glitch1 script, and finally found a
set of tuning values which make the test script run smooth. See back
posts, I don't have them here.
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There is another way to show the problem visually under X
(vesa-driver), by starting 3 gears simultaneously, which after
laying them out side-by-side need some settling time before
smoothing out. Without __update_curr it's
(if it isn't already), perhaps you will be able
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problem. that's just part of the academic process.
I agree that pick something interesting, useful or not is a part of
the academic process, but I would never imply that it was a desirable
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Is it planned to leave Linux audio in this state?
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pages in swap disappear when the process is
killed. So, I don't think there are any swap-related performance issues
on the shutdown path.
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updated?
I can understand backup tools using mtime/ctime for incremental backups (like
tar + Amanda, etc), but I'm having trouble figuring out why someone would
want to use atime for that.
Programs which migrate unused files or delete them are the usual cases.
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would certainly be one, less frequent updates of dirty inodes, whatever.
But if a user wants to give up standards compliance it should be a
deliberate choice, not something which the average user will not
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Being standards compliant is not an argument it's a design goal, a
requirement. Standards compliance is like pregant, you are or you're
Linux history says different. There was always the final 1% of
compliance that required silliness we really did
of
noatime is allowing drives to spin down via inactivity. If something
does get done in the area of less but non-zero atime tracking, perhaps
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with that. ;-)
Your point well taken, not the intent of the patch, but it may indicate
where a performance bottleneck happens as well.
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I have to wade through.
New cable, separate power, doesn't do it under 2.6.20-* Fedora or
2.6.21.x kernel.org kernels.
I'll check the dmesg next time it happens, but I doubt a kernel version
change would heal the hardware issues you mention.
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somewhat funny.
I think by the time you get up enough to be running ill-advised commands
from shell, you are past early boot. Your comments about scrollback
not working right if you break it are hopefully an attempt at humor.
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find anything interesting I'll report.
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, *after boot*, would allow
all this flexibility, although I still think it's too late to change.
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have forgotten some things.
Honestly, I like this laptop when it works flawlessly, so I don't see
many reasons to try *susp* again. I'll do it when I'm bored, just not
today.
Actually on some old laptops I just use the apm command, with -s (or -S,
I forget by now), and that works.
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is a problem
certainly defines the difference between them, the populist give them
what they want and the elitist let's them make do with what I think
they should have.
I do respect Pavel for all the stuff he has done and is doing, I wish I
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Ingo Molnar wrote:
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SD 0.46 1-2 FPS
cfs v5 nice -19 219-233 FPS
cfs v5 nice 0 1000-1996
cfs v5 nice -10 60-65 FPS
the problem
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getting ready to boot and test
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If the result is fixing things which then don't get fixed in mainline, as
Adrian notes
That whole premise is flawed. The *rule* for the stable tree is that
things don't get merged into the stable tree unless they are fixed
my
time on maintaining regression lists for 2.6.22 - and maintaining such
lists is not something special noone else could do equally well.
And the next kernel will go out with no list to warn users, and no to-do
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wake up. It's
*technically* doable, but it's just a pain to do right now)
And timer somehow so cron jobs could still run. Ideal for critical but
rarely used machines like fallover servers, the user documentation
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tainted or not? Does this open another multi-month flame war around GPL,
BSD, NDA, source available but not GPL, and all the other things we
talked to death about inserting non-GPL modules?
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iphdr *)((*pskb)-data + iphdroff);
- hdr = (struct tcphdr *)((*pskb)-data + iph-ihl*4);
+ hdr = (struct tcphdr *)((*pskb)-data + hdroff);
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to be a valud operation
to me. New crypto feels more like adding a whole new device.
Opinion offered for clarification only, I don't feel strongly on this or
crypto, but I do identify because I have hardware with a 2.4 driver and
I can't use it unless I give up 2.6.
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than that.
I don't consider this correct behaviour, but at least I know how to get
by it for iso-9660 CDs. For other formats which don't allow
determination of data set size except by the contents of the data, this
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network activity. You might find more information there, subject
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Have you tested the ISO on some *OTHER* hardware? The impression I got
was that the cd was *burned
high interest area, like real time premption, it might
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active protection system that
IBM offers under windows for its laptops, that will park the disk when
it detects that e.g. the laptop is falling off a table.
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units) then the
effect of faster CPU would be shown. And the total power of all attached
CPUs should be taken into account, using HT or SMP does have an effect
of feel.
Disk tests should be at a fixed rate, not all you can do. That's NOT
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How serious is the 1/HZ = sane problem, and more to the point how
many programs get the HZ value with a system call as opposed to
including a header or building it in? I know some of my older
programs use header files
don't think it
can be done in reasonable time? I can see this needing very careful
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isn't true in all cases.
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Con Kolivas wrote:
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Con Kolivas wrote:
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for audio and video this would seem to be a fairly simple scaleing factor
(or just doing a fixed amount of work rather then a fixed percentage
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Disk tests should be at a fixed rate, not all you can do. That's NOT
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Not true; what you suggest is another thing to check entirely, and that
would
be a valid benchmark too. What I'm
catch invalid values far better, allow other
values to be either implemented as best as is possible if desired, and
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, so that when system memory is full I pay
the overhead of TWO disk i/o's, one to finally write the data to the
disk and one to read my program back in. If free software is about
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Paolo Ornati wrote:
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And IMHO Linux is *way* too willing to evicy clean pages of my
programs to use as disk buffer, so that when system memory is full I
pay the overhead of TWO disk i/o's, one to finally write
, better sleep resolution, I
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the following (totally untested) should make it be
non-lazy. It's going to slow down normal task switches, but might speed up
the restoring FP context all the time case.
Chuck? This should work fine with or without your inline thing. Does it
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I haven't tried on the most recent kernels, but ZIP seemed to work
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, people who
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people who think USB precludes power saving you could make the test.
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not use x += x as well. If you
want to multiple by two, do it.
Wasn't there a CPU where multiple was faster than add? Doesn't matter,
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that DMA wakes the CPU
from C3 and let it ride, I don't want to skip it, but neither do I need
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It's running the ASUS P4P800 board which is why I looked, BIOS 1086.
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with values in
/sys/block/{device}/queue or wherever you have your sysfs mounted.
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that /sys/devices/system uses today.
Whatever, it's cosmetic and there seem to be more important problems
with APIC than /proc vs. /sys.
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Andreas Baer wrote:
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One other oddment about this motherboard, Forgive if I have
over-snipped this trying to make it relevant...
Andreas Baer wrote:
Willy Tarreau wrote:
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There clearly
discussion of this, but in many cases it would
result in a saving, perhaps fairly large. Some environmental benefit as
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program is read back in. If the pages are dirty, then there's
the delay while they are written.
It's exactly the benefit from having cached pages which is lost.
I would love more control in this area, but short of maintaining a patch
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. And they are lots safer, since you can't wind up with
them pointing to a non-existent file, get them in circular loops, etc.
Okay, YOU probably wouldn't, but believe me semi-competent users
regularly these things.
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Currently, the speedstep-centrino support has built-in frequency/voltage
pairs only for Banias CPUs. For Dothan CPUs, these tables are read from
BIOS ACPI.
But ACPI encoding may not be available or not reliable, so why shouldn't we
provide built-in tables for Dothan
matthieu castet wrote:
Hi Alan,
Alan Cox wrote:
On Sad, 2005-07-02 at 15:14, matthieu castet wrote:
Also I was wondering if all the sector that ide-cd failed to read are
bad sector, or if ide-cd failed to put the drive in a consistent
state for reading the next sector after corrupted one.
Ondrej Zary wrote:
Jens Axboe wrote:
On Tue, Jul 05 2005, Ondrej Zary wrote:
André Tomt wrote:
Al Boldi wrote:
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: {
On 7/4/05, Al Boldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hdparm -tT gives 38mb/s in 2.4.31
Cat /dev/hda /dev/null gives 2% user 33% sys 65% idle
) by someone then paranoia can get rid of the egregious
hack.
I've expanded the recipients list, perhaps we'll get a status on (a) if
the fix Alan has will cause correct error reporting, and (b) when it can
be put in mainline. The paranoia can clean up its act.
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used anymore, the kermit
program is still a capable terminal interface, and includes logging. For
those who don't like telnet or minicom, here's another program to dislike.
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is desirable to have both.
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