-critical in the sense that I'm sure I can run old kernels for a
decade if needed, but hopefully something to be fixed. Since there's no
regressions list any more, I guess we will all have to complain about
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that and the fact that there is another idea which can be tested
from Tong Li, I think that decision can be postponed, Linus willing.
There appear to be enough testers to be driving evolution now, authors
may disagree, of course.
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nicksched. There are a lot of mutually incompatible approaches being
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as if this is a
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responsiveness with 2.4.19-ck7, you know I always
test your stuff ;-)
Guess it might need a bit of polish for current hardware, I was testing
on *small* machines, deliberately.
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have a console open on the machine and can verify
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newer modutils is needed. Even for people who build their own
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I'm not sure you would get people to agree what should be done if a
hardware RNG fails, other than make the failure information available to
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setuid bit.
Given that setuid is possibly the most misused (no I didn't say
overused) features around, that's hardly a recommendation. That said,
have you looked at capabilities?
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Jeff Garzik wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Herbert Xu wrote:
You missed the point. This has nothing to do with the crypto API.
Jeff is saying that if this is disabled by default, then only a few
users will enable it and therefore use this API.
Since we can't afford to enable it by default
iphdr *)((*pskb)->data + iphdroff);
- hdr = (struct tcphdr *)((*pskb)->data + iph->ihl*4);
+ hdr = (struct tcphdr *)((*pskb)->data + hdroff);
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seems to be a valud operation
to me. New crypto feels more like adding a whole new device.
Opinion offered for clarification only, I don't feel strongly on this or
crypto, but I do identify because I have hardware with a 2.4 driver and
I can't use it unless I give up 2.6.
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read MORE than that.
I don't consider this correct behaviour, but at least I know how to get
by it for iso-9660 CDs. For other formats which don't allow
determination of data set size except by the contents of the data, this
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On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 05:58:05PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:42:21 +0100, "Kiniger, Karl (GE Healthcare)" said:
Have you tested the ISO on some *OTHER* hardware? The impression I got
was t
the "type + length"
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something better.
I admit that some of my own toys have never seen the light of day
because I am unable to invest the time to handle those points.
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is exactly as much information as is in the
original link. And they are lots safer, since you can't wind up with
them pointing to a non-existent file, get them in circular loops, etc.
Okay, YOU probably wouldn't, but believe me semi-competent users
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Currently, the speedstep-centrino support has built-in frequency/voltage
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But ACPI encoding may not be available or not reliable, so why shouldn't we
provide built-in tables for Dothan
matthieu castet wrote:
Hi Alan,
Alan Cox wrote:
On Sad, 2005-07-02 at 15:14, matthieu castet wrote:
Also I was wondering if all the sector that ide-cd failed to read are
bad sector, or if ide-cd failed to put the drive in a consistent
state for reading the next sector after corrupted one.
Ondrej Zary wrote:
Jens Axboe wrote:
On Tue, Jul 05 2005, Ondrej Zary wrote:
André Tomt wrote:
Al Boldi wrote:
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: {
On 7/4/05, Al Boldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hdparm -tT gives 38mb/s in 2.4.31
Cat /dev/hda > /dev/null gives 2% user 33% sys 65% idle
or reporting is fixed (and that may not be the fix
Alan has devised) by someone then paranoia can get rid of the egregious
hack.
I've expanded the recipients list, perhaps we'll get a status on (a) if
the fix Alan has will cause correct error reporting, and (b) when it can
be put in mainlin
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t much used anymore, the kermit
program is still a capable terminal interface, and includes logging. For
those who don't like telnet or minicom, here's another program to dislike.
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exy high interest area, like real time premption, it might
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started. At the time I didn't expect to have to use the system call.
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d disk active protection system that
IBM offers under windows for its laptops, that will park the disk when
it detects that e.g. the laptop is falling off a table.
Does that imply that we have software to detect falling off a table?
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units) then the
effect of faster CPU would be shown. And the total power of all attached
CPUs should be taken into account, using HT or SMP does have an effect
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Disk tests should be at a fixed rate, not all you can do. That's NOT
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David Lang wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Bill Davidsen wrote:
How serious is the 1/HZ = sane problem, and more to the point how
many programs get the HZ value with a system call as opposed to
including a header or building it in? I know some of my older
programs use header files
actually have something against tickless, or just don't think it
can be done in reasonable time? I can see this needing very careful
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pier? (I wrote "happy" rather
than "happier" at first, but let's face it, people are better at whining
than they are at being happy ;)
I think this is just what's needed, and it addresses both the delay in
getting new features in as well as delay in getting fixes in a stable
k
Jeff Garzik wrote:
Unless it's crashing for people, stack usage is IMO a wanted-fix not
needed-fix.
nfsd--svcrpc-add-a-per-flavor-set_client-method.patch
is this critical?
Wasn't part of the Linus proposal that it had to fix an oops or
non-functional feature?
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Hopefully this and the double-free patch will be included in 2.6.11.n+1?
They seem to fit the "real bug" criteria.
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feature in existing code
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On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Greg KH wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 05:18:16PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
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> > >ChangeSet 1.1998.11.27, 2005/02/25 15:48:28-08:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >[PATCH] PCI: One more Asus SMBus quirk
> > >
something current instead of 2.6.10-ac12, which was
a great patch in its day, but hasn't been current for a while.
In fairness, the -mm is out of date, too. Perhaps a bit of automation
would be appropriate here, so that no one would have to update this
manually.
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lowing the -stable will just need the most recent,
but doing x.y.z-1=>x.y.z.N gets really ugly for higher values of N.
It can be automated, it's just two (presumably tiny) patchsets per release.
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not fix it. The stable kernel should have a stable process, which should
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should be a config option, like UNSAFE_TAPE_POSITIONING or some such.
And show the option if the build includes BROKEN features. That should put
the decision where it belongs and clarify the possible failures.
Caould you live with that, Alan?
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On Wed, 9 Mar 2005, Greg KH wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 11:06:15AM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> > On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Greg KH wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 05:18:16PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> > > > Greg KH wrote:
> > > > &g
e admin a way to build a kernel with the hole other
than just reverting the fix
I proposed the last, I won't cry if no one else likes it, it just seemed
realistic for people who don't use certain features of tar.
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wrong and someone might do
something destructive reading the mainline docs and using the fixed
code. Drivers come to mind.
I am NOT saying this is such a case, I'm just against zero tolerance
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any means ;-)
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+ turning off the backlight
started working with the screen saver.
I guess it's better than my Dell and Toshiba laptops, which suspecnd but
don't resume :-(
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eave well enough alone!
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it to -stable? Serial
not working is a non-trivial issue given the number of people who use
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loaded subsequently.
I don't know if this approach does also work with *such* large
chunks like yours.
Wasn't there a problem with a process having mlocked memory in the wrong
place and the application hanging? Or the kernel hanging? Or something.
Can't remember.
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o all
that. I would add a caution to the help warning of this problem if you
lack real hardware RNG capability. The really paranoid could insist that
at least one hardware driver be configured, but how much do you need to
protect people from themselves?
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> Bill Davidsen wrote:
[...snip...]
> > I think it will confuse scripts which expect something local in the 4th
> > field. I confess that I have such, and that field is turned into a
> > directory name during builds, so t
didn't like the initial decision to go incremental, and I even less like
changing now, but it's the right thing to do. It's not like we have a big
investment in scripts or anything, and you're doing the work.
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Linus Torvalds wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Unfortunately if A depends on B to work at all, you have to put A and B
in as a package.
No. That's totally bogus. You can put in B on its own. You do not have to
make A+B be one patch.
No,perhaps it isn't clear. If A changes
mitigate any security flaw, we must make a
> non-circumventable protection.
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unrelated" I agree completely.
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ely, there will ALWAYS be a path, either direct, or indirect between
> the secure net and the internet.
Other than letting people use secure computers after they have seen the
Internet, a good setup has no indirect paths.
>
> The problem exists. The only to protect is to apply layers of protectio
so I do not see any problem here.
Only one of them can be loaded in a time.
So what does exactly bother you?
That I don't know how to select loading between modules with the same
name. What's the trick?
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info for
what's running presently - a question I get often.
That's something you can do entirely in userspace by looking at the *.ko
files.
How do you find which *.ko file was used to load the module in memory? I
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> On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 10:37 -0600, Jesse Pollard wrote:
> > On Wednesday 26 January 2005 13:56, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> > > On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, Jesse Pollard wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 25 January 2005 15:05, linux-os wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:19:51 -0500
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> > > Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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o cook the books the scheduler
used. And the user could hold off interrupts for up to 16ms, just to
make it worse.
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in the camera
- it doesn't happen with four other sticks bought at the same time
and used in the same camera
Out of the box FC2 + 2.6.10 built from kernel.org source.
Before I start playing with the drivers and all, is there a known oddity
in this area which I missed searching?
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affected, and I suspect most others who have this old stuff are running
2.0 or 2.2 kernels, also.
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-/+ buffers/cache: 553680 481548
Swap: 2048248 112922036956
pixels:davidsen> uname -rn
pixels.tmr.com 2.6.10-ac2
Not that this is a bad thing, but I'm surprised at no swap used at all.
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The init option would be unintrusive, but I doubt many people would feel
the need for a kernel log feature. On the other hand it doesn't happen
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daemons reparented (at the moment).
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> On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 10:24:56AM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
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> > >On Sat, Jan 29, 2005 at 06:22:55PM +0100, Jean Delvare wrote:
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> > >>Hi Adrian,
> > >>
> > >>
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the rate locks at 48000 instead 44100 as requested.
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I'll try to build a truth table for this, I'm now working with some
non-iso data sets, so I'm a bit more interested. I would expect read()
to only try to read one sector, so I'll just do a quick and dirty to get
encrypted filesystem images onto DVDs directly, and that
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nes which do
ZIP drive media exchange both use the ide-scsi interface and 2.4 kernel
to talk to the devices. They are unlikely to get or need an update, but
I did try ide-floppy at one time and had some poorly-remembered
"learning experience" doing so.
Thanks for your work on this!
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scheduler of the week, but unless some feature requires one of those,
it's easier to start from a known base.
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Please let me know if you need further info or you want a tester
All this is on a IBM Thinkpad R51 - Type 2887 -AVG
ASUS 1681 - same symptoms.
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(curiousity only)? Of
course after you detect motion you probably want to up the framerate, so
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s an issue, since on my hardware that meant the
system did nothing but write wrror messages to the log.
>
> > as you note, because the hardware is generating the condition, no one
> > seems to care, even though there clearly is a problem in the disable
> > logic. I found a way
themselves and freedom for
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Lee Revell wrote:
On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 16:47 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
- sound: hasn't worked since FC1...
The ALSA lists have been deluged with reports like "sound worked in FC1,
upgraded to FC3, no sound". AFAICT it's just sloppiness on the part of
the Fedora userspace tools. F
have no way to
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arted when the new hardware was added, but occurs on the old.
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event? It
seems like a very odd failure mode, but since I'm about to drop in a
bttv card and digitize about a hundred old tapes, I'd like to know.
Did you try the "card=" suggestion?
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list" is that? I have asked the same question on
linux-sound several times and gotten no answer. If that list is dead it
should go away!
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At least now that you know how to set the type for the cards separately
you can test two configurations at a time.
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; and "Line Jack Sense" in
alsamixer?
Is there some option to alsamixer to get those to show up? There's no
such entry in the default display (FC3 w/ kernel.org 2.6.1[01]).
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ery time you switch from headphones to
speaker. Assuming I follow the o.p. issue... alsamixer shows no "sense"
settings for my ASUS laptop, and I have to boot 2.4 to get sound.
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it
is desirable to have both.
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quot; behaviour make scripts more complex.
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I want to
eliminate distro errors of the type you describe.
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