Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-14 Thread Marco Colombo
On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 21:47 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 04:53:56PM +0200, Marco Colombo wrote: > > > > This is different. They are not giving the source at all. The licence > > > > for those object files _has_ to be different. _They_ want

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-14 Thread Marco Colombo
On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 21:47 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 04:53:56PM +0200, Marco Colombo wrote: This is different. They are not giving the source at all. The licence for those object files _has_ to be different. _They_ want it to be different. Sure

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-13 Thread Marco Colombo
On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 20:45 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 06:14:17PM +0200, Marco Colombo wrote: > > No one will ever do that. If you are distributing the software I released > > under GPL, be sure I _will_ sue you if you break the licence. What do you &

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-13 Thread Marco Colombo
On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 20:45 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 06:14:17PM +0200, Marco Colombo wrote: No one will ever do that. If you are distributing the software I released under GPL, be sure I _will_ sue you if you break the licence. What do you want from me? A promise I

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-12 Thread Marco Colombo
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, Sven Luther wrote: On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 02:40:48AM +0200, Marco Colombo wrote: Which reminds me. The only reason why this thread belongs here, IMHO, it's because when it comes to GPL, it really doesn't matter what FSF's interpretation is, or anyone else's. The authors

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-12 Thread Marco Colombo
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, Sven Luther wrote: On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 02:40:48AM +0200, Marco Colombo wrote: Which reminds me. The only reason why this thread belongs here, IMHO, it's because when it comes to GPL, it really doesn't matter what FSF's interpretation is, or anyone else's. The authors

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-11 Thread Marco Colombo
On Mon, 11 Apr 2005, Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 10:54:50PM +0200, Marco Colombo wrote: In this case, A is clearly the author (onwer of rights) of the firmware. D is fine on respect of the other A's, since their source is actually (and clearly) there. It's the missing source case

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-11 Thread Marco Colombo
On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 18:25 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 06:12:22PM +0200, Marco Colombo wrote: [...] > > A - is the Author (or rights owner) of the software (GPL'ed); > > B - is an user, who got the a copy of the software from A; > > C - is another

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-11 Thread Marco Colombo
[I'm not subscribed, so this in not a real reply - sorry if it breaks threading somehow.] Sven Luther wrote: > The ftp-master are the ones reviewing the licencing problems, and they are the > ones handling the infrastructure, and putting their responsability on the > stake. If they feel that

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-11 Thread Marco Colombo
[I'm not subscribed, so this in not a real reply - sorry if it breaks threading somehow.] Sven Luther wrote: The ftp-master are the ones reviewing the licencing problems, and they are the ones handling the infrastructure, and putting their responsability on the stake. If they feel that some

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-11 Thread Marco Colombo
On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 18:25 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 06:12:22PM +0200, Marco Colombo wrote: [...] A - is the Author (or rights owner) of the software (GPL'ed); B - is an user, who got the a copy of the software from A; C - is another user, who got a copy indirectly

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-11 Thread Marco Colombo
On Mon, 11 Apr 2005, Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 10:54:50PM +0200, Marco Colombo wrote: In this case, A is clearly the author (onwer of rights) of the firmware. D is fine on respect of the other A's, since their source is actually (and clearly) there. It's the missing source case

Re: VM Requirement Document - v0.0

2001-07-04 Thread Marco Colombo
On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Daniel Phillips wrote: > On Tuesday 03 July 2001 12:33, Marco Colombo wrote: > > Oh, yes, since that PAGE_AGE_BG_INTERACTIVE_MINIMUM is applied only > > when background aging, maybe it's not enough to keep processes like > > updatedb from caus

Re: VM Requirement Document - v0.0

2001-07-04 Thread Marco Colombo
On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Daniel Phillips wrote: > On Monday 02 July 2001 20:42, Rik van Riel wrote: > > On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Marco Colombo wrote: > > > I'm not sure that, in general, recent pages with only one access are > > > still better eviction candidates compared

Re: VM Requirement Document - v0.0

2001-07-04 Thread Marco Colombo
On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Daniel Phillips wrote: On Monday 02 July 2001 20:42, Rik van Riel wrote: On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Marco Colombo wrote: I'm not sure that, in general, recent pages with only one access are still better eviction candidates compared to 8 hours old pages. Here we need

Re: VM Requirement Document - v0.0

2001-07-04 Thread Marco Colombo
On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Daniel Phillips wrote: On Tuesday 03 July 2001 12:33, Marco Colombo wrote: Oh, yes, since that PAGE_AGE_BG_INTERACTIVE_MINIMUM is applied only when background aging, maybe it's not enough to keep processes like updatedb from causing interactive pages to be evicted

Re: VM Requirement Document - v0.0

2001-07-03 Thread Marco Colombo
On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Rik van Riel wrote: > On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Marco Colombo wrote: > > > I'm not sure that, in general, recent pages with only one access are > > still better eviction candidates compared to 8 hours old pages. Here > > we need either another way to detect

Re: VM Requirement Document - v0.0

2001-07-03 Thread Marco Colombo
On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Rik van Riel wrote: On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Marco Colombo wrote: I'm not sure that, in general, recent pages with only one access are still better eviction candidates compared to 8 hours old pages. Here we need either another way to detect one-shot activity (like the one

Re: VM Requirement Document - v0.0

2001-06-28 Thread Marco Colombo
olve Mike's problem, that is. > > -- > Daniel > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lk

Re: VM Requirement Document - v0.0

2001-06-28 Thread Marco Colombo
linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ .TM. -- / / / / / / Marco Colombo

Re: VM Requirement Document - v0.0

2001-06-27 Thread Marco Colombo
no hints on its VM behaviour) just punish it. I mean, when tuning the VM behaviour, system health and friendly applications performance are the goals - do whatever necessary to preserve them, even kill the offender and rm its executable if someone it's running it again (

Re: [PATCH] User chroot

2001-06-27 Thread Marco Colombo
g something obvious? Just write a small program that chroots, drop privileges, and execs the untrusted daemon. .TM. -- / / / / / / Marco Colombo ___/ ___ / / Technical Manager / / / ESI s.r

Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-27 Thread Marco Colombo
s to realize what that exactly means (both as a fact and as concept) and reconsider the part "but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time" (just s/people/business people/ and re-read). B-) .TM. -- / / / / /

Re: When the FUD is all around (sniff).

2001-06-27 Thread Marco Colombo
fool all of the people all of the time (just s/people/business people/ and re-read). B-) .TM. -- / / / / / / Marco Colombo ___/ ___ / / Technical Manager / / / ESI s.r.l

Re: [PATCH] User chroot

2001-06-27 Thread Marco Colombo
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Re: VM Requirement Document - v0.0

2001-06-27 Thread Marco Colombo
the offender and rm its executable if someone it's running it again (*grin*) B-). .TM. -- / / / / / / Marco Colombo ___/ ___ / / Technical Manager / / / ESI s.r.l

Re: Controversy over dynamic linking -- how to end the panic

2001-06-21 Thread Marco Colombo
one going to Oracle and say "Your SW is now GPLed, hand me the Source. Resistance is Futile." ... GPL has a viral behaviour iff you want to keep using the GPLed part that you included, or am I missing something? .TM. -- ____/ / / / / / M

Re: Controversy over dynamic linking -- how to end the panic

2001-06-21 Thread Marco Colombo
. Resistance is Futile. ... GPL has a viral behaviour iff you want to keep using the GPLed part that you included, or am I missing something? .TM. -- / / / / / / Marco Colombo ___/ ___ / / Technical Manager

Re: [PATCH] Prevent OOM from killing init

2001-03-25 Thread Marco Colombo
to a sanity check to disallow absurdly sized requests, IIRC. .TM. -- / / / / / / Marco Colombo ___/ ___ / / Technical Manager / / / ESI s.r.l. _/ _/ _/ [EMAI

Re: [PATCH] Prevent OOM from killing init

2001-03-25 Thread Marco Colombo
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Re: [PATCH] More compile warning fixes for 2.4.0

2001-01-10 Thread Marco Colombo
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Marco Colombo wrote: > > > > > > case xxx: > > > /* fallthrough */ ; > > > } > > > > > > or something (or maybe just a "break" stateme

Re: [PATCH] More compile warning fixes for 2.4.0

2001-01-10 Thread Marco Colombo
On 10 Jan 2001, Alan Shutko wrote: > Marco Colombo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > But what happens if I delete the stm1 line? We have: > > > > case xxx: > > /* fallthrough */ > > case yyy: > > stm2; > &

Re: [PATCH] More compile warning fixes for 2.4.0

2001-01-10 Thread Marco Colombo
uot; even if there are other statements: for(;;) { stm1; if (condition) { break; } stm2; continue; } (it's like a comment that says "loop again", opposed to the break which sa

Re: [PATCH] More compile warning fixes for 2.4.0

2001-01-10 Thread Marco Colombo
stm2; continue; } (it's like a comment that says "loop again", opposed to the break which says "stop looping") but I agree that's overkill. B-) .TM. -- / / / / / / Marco Colombo ___/ ___ /

Re: [PATCH] More compile warning fixes for 2.4.0

2001-01-10 Thread Marco Colombo
On 10 Jan 2001, Alan Shutko wrote: Marco Colombo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But what happens if I delete the stm1 line? We have: case xxx: /* fallthrough */ case yyy: stm2; which is wrong. AFAIK, that's perfectly correct. It's only

Re: [PATCH] More compile warning fixes for 2.4.0

2001-01-10 Thread Marco Colombo
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote: On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Marco Colombo wrote: case xxx: /* fallthrough */ ; } or something (or maybe just a "break" statement), just so that we don't turn the poor C language into line noise (can anybody

Re: D-LINK DFE-530-TX

2000-12-07 Thread Marco Colombo
E530TX VIA based and one named DFE530TX+ rtl based? Isn't it a bit confusing? B-) > > Jim .TM. -- / / / / / / Marco Colombo ___/ ___ / / Technical Manager / / / ESI s.r.l. _/ _/ _/

Re: D-LINK DFE-530-TX

2000-12-07 Thread Marco Colombo
ia-rhine? I had problems with the 530. I've been told that the 538 (rtl8139) works under the same load (NFS server on a small LAN, and a 5-ports D-Link Switch), even with the old driver. .TM. -- / ____/ / / / / Marco Colombo ___

Re: D-LINK DFE-530-TX

2000-12-07 Thread Marco Colombo
te > > This message is copyright 2000, all rights reserved. > > Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer. > > -- > > .TM. --

Re: D-LINK DFE-530-TX

2000-12-07 Thread Marco Colombo
(rtl8139) works under the same load (NFS server on a small LAN, and a 5-ports D-Link Switch), even with the old driver. .TM. -- / / / / / / Marco Colombo ___/ ___ / / Technical Manager

Re: D-LINK DFE-530-TX

2000-12-07 Thread Marco Colombo
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-09 Thread Marco Colombo
robably worried about the internals of their HW). > > be nice if the binary module thing could be clarified by the copyright > holders. Of course. > > --paulj > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in &g

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-09 Thread Marco Colombo
ond edition. Of course the only release of Perfect OS will be 1.0! B-) B-) B-) B-) > > -M > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-09 Thread Marco Colombo
he line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ .TM. -- / / / / / / Marco Colombo ___/ ___ / /

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-09 Thread Marco Colombo
aulj - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ .TM. -- / / / / / / Marco Colombo _

Re: IDE disk slow? There's help...

2000-10-23 Thread Marco Colombo
performance). The DPTA-372050 does 20MB/sec on an Athlon MB, BTW. A DTLA-307030 does 35.5MB/sec on AMD-751/6-based boards (UDMA/66). But you know that... B-) .TM. -- / / / / / / Marco Colombo ___/ ___ / /

Re: [PATCH] VM fix for 2.4.0-test9 & OOM handler

2000-10-10 Thread Marco Colombo
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Re: [PATCH] VM fix for 2.4.0-test9 OOM handler

2000-10-10 Thread Marco Colombo
good or am I missing something? Linus - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ .TM. -- / / / / /

Re: [PATCH] VM fix for 2.4.0-test9 & OOM handler

2000-10-09 Thread Marco Colombo
On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Rik van Riel wrote: > On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Marco Colombo wrote: > > On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Rik van Riel wrote: > > > > [...] > > > They are niced because the user thinks them a bit less > > > important. > > > > Please don

Re: [PATCH] VM fix for 2.4.0-test9 & OOM handler

2000-10-09 Thread Marco Colombo
OM time, I'd not even look at the nice of a process at all. But my point here is that you do, and you take it as an hint for process importance as percieved by the user that run it, and I believe it's just wrong guessing). .TM. -- / / / / / /

Re: [PATCH] VM fix for 2.4.0-test9 OOM handler

2000-10-09 Thread Marco Colombo
e, I'd not even look at the nice of a process at all. But my point here is that you do, and you take it as an hint for process importance as percieved by the user that run it, and I believe it's just wrong guessing). .TM. -- / / / / / /

Re: [PATCH] VM fix for 2.4.0-test9 OOM handler

2000-10-09 Thread Marco Colombo
On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Rik van Riel wrote: On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Marco Colombo wrote: On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Rik van Riel wrote: [...] They are niced because the user thinks them a bit less important. Please don't, this assumption is quite wrong. I use nice just to be 'nice

Re: 2.2.17 crashes with RTL8139B and/or IPv6

2000-09-20 Thread Marco Colombo
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Simon Richter wrote: > Hi, > > I just upgraded our server (486DX2/120, running 186 days`) with a 100MBit ^^ isn't it overclocked? .TM. -- / / / / / / Marc

Re: 2.2.17 crashes with RTL8139B and/or IPv6

2000-09-20 Thread Marco Colombo
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Simon Richter wrote: Hi, I just upgraded our server (486DX2/120, running 186 days`) with a 100MBit ^^ isn't it overclocked? .TM. -- / / / / / / Marco Colombo

Re: Proposal: Linux Kernel Patch Management System

2000-09-15 Thread Marco Colombo
er that stop for not being able to fill the template? You *really* believe this is a likely scenario? .TM. -- / / / / / / Marco Colombo ___/ ___ / / Technical Manager / / / ESI s.r.l. ___

Re: The case for a standard kernel debugger

2000-09-14 Thread Marco Colombo
ust do the same? .TM. -- / / / / / / Marco Colombo ___/ ___ / / Technical Manager / / / ESI s.r.l. _/ _/ _/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list

Re: The case for a standard kernel debugger

2000-09-14 Thread Marco Colombo
er product, in the end, and since you find it useful to you, in primis, it makes *your* life easier. .TM. -- / / / / / / Marco Colombo ___/ ___ / / Technical Manager / / / ESI s.r.l. _/ _/ _/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscr

Re: The case for a standard kernel debugger

2000-09-14 Thread Marco Colombo
the same? .TM. -- / / / / / / Marco Colombo ___/ ___ / / Technical Manager / / / ESI s.r.l. _/ _/ _/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-11 Thread Marco Colombo
On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Marco Colombo wrote: > > > > As you said, the are two kinds of reactions. I don't understand why you > > think that the presence of a debugger will *prevent* people from doing > > the Righ

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-11 Thread Marco Colombo
ED] > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > .TM. -- ____/ / / / / / Marco Colombo ___/ ___ / / Technical Manager / / / ESI s.r.l. _/ _/ _/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe f

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-11 Thread Marco Colombo
ml/ .TM. -- / / / / / / Marco Colombo ___/ ___ / / Technical Manager / / / ESI s.r.l. _/ _/ _/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-11 Thread Marco Colombo
On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Marco Colombo wrote: As you said, the are two kinds of reactions. I don't understand why you think that the presence of a debugger will *prevent* people from doing the Right Thing and "think about problems anothe

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-06 Thread Marco Colombo
way. So they'll never make their way into YOUR kernel. But please don't say that debuggers are bad for everyone... others may be able to close their eyes and "look at the Source" even in the presence of a debugger... IMHO, there good reasons to leave a debu

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-06 Thread Marco Colombo
ay that debuggers are bad for everyone... others may be able to close their eyes and "look at the Source" even in the presence of a debugger... IMHO, there good reasons to leave a debugger out. Technical ones. You don't need a religious one. .TM. -- / / / / /

Re: Linux 2.2.18pre1

2000-09-01 Thread Marco Colombo
e20) fgrep Fix 2.2.18-changes | wc -l 16 B-) .TM. -- / / / / / / Marco Colombo ___/ ___ / / Technical Manager / / / ESI s.r.l. _/ _/ _/ [

Re: SCO: "thread creation is about a thousand times faster than on

2000-09-01 Thread Marco Colombo
here? Do you consider the above problem "critical"? B-) > > Have a nice day ;) > Erik McKee > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Please read t

RE: Large File support and blocks.

2000-09-01 Thread Marco Colombo
alsh| Trust Technology, Core Linux, SGI > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Voice: (650) 933-5338 .TM. -- / / / / / / Marco Colombo ___/ ___ / /

RE: Large File support and blocks.

2000-09-01 Thread Marco Colombo
e Linux, SGI [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Voice: (650) 933-5338 .TM. -- / / / / / / Marco Colombo ___/ ___ / / Technical Manager / / / ESI s.r.l. _/ _/ _/

Re: Linux 2.2.18pre1

2000-09-01 Thread Marco Colombo
-changes | wc -l 16 B-) .TM. -- / / / / / / Marco Colombo ___/ ___ / / Technical Manager / / / ESI s.r.l. _/ _/ _/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe

Re: SCO: "thread creation is about a thousand times faster than on

2000-08-31 Thread Marco Colombo
ED] "In my country we have almost anarchy and I don't care." > Panos Katsaloulis describing me w.r.t. patents at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTE