ipppd == pppd? (was: Re: New features in Linux 2.4 - Wonderful Wor...)

2001-01-13 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joe Pranevich) wrote on 06.01.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: much of the code, including a long awaited combination of the PPP layers from the ISDN layer and the serial device PPP layer, such as I've heard about that before, but I can find no hint about that in

Re: Where did vm_operations_struct-unmap in 2.4.0 go?

2001-01-14 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith Owens) wrote on 12.01.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:01:12 +0100, Daniel Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith Owens wrote: I want to completely remove this multi layered method for setting initialisation order and go back to basics. I want

Re: ipppd == pppd?

2001-01-19 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Germaschewski) wrote on 15.01.01 in Pine.LNX.4.30.0101152310580.2419-10@vaio: On 13 Jan 2001, Kai Henningsen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joe Pranevich) wrote on 06.01.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: much of the code, including a long awaited combination

Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: Is sendfile all that sexy? (fwd)]]

2001-01-20 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (dean gaudet) wrote on 18.01.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i'm pretty sure the actual use of pipelining is pretty disappointing. the work i did in apache preceded the widespread use of HTTP/1.1 and we What widespread use of HTTP/1.1? I justtried the following excercise:

Re: Is sendfile all that sexy?

2001-01-20 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Torvalds) wrote on 18.01.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: (Short and sweet: most hogh-performance people want point-to-point serial line IO with no hops, because it's a known art to make that go fast. No general-case routing in hardware - if you want to go as fast as the

Re: [OT?] Coding Style

2001-01-25 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Harrold) wrote on 23.01.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I prefer descriptive variable and function names - like comments, they help to make code so much easier to read. One thing I wonder though... why do people prefer 'some_function_name()' over

Re: [OT?] Coding Style

2001-01-25 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Underwood) wrote on 24.01.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Unfortunately the C standards people don't seem to realise there are languages other than English. C99 had perfect timing to introduce UTF8 Unicode as acceptable in C source. Alas they missed the boat. I have been

Re: [PATCH] adding PCI bus information to SCSI layer

2001-05-12 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Lundell) wrote on 11.05.01 in p0510030db7221c090810@[10.128.7.49]·2: At 1:32 PM -0300 2001-05-11, Ralf Baechle wrote: On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 12:51:25AM -0700, Jonathan Lundell wrote: Kai Henningsen wrote: What's a lot more important is that the mail

Re: page_launder() bug

2001-05-08 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Horst von Brand) wrote on 07.05.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: David S. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Jonathan Morton writes: -page_count(page) == (1 + !!page-buffers)); Two inversions in a row? It is the most straightforward way to make

Re: Nasty Requirements for non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules?

2001-05-13 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Cox) wrote on 09.05.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: you stand, it'll cost you around $15K and that, in my opinion, is fine. If it isn't worth $15K to protect your code then it is worth so little to you that there really is no good reason not to just GPL it from the

Re: Nasty Requirements for non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules?

2001-05-13 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Galbraith) wrote on 13.05.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 13 May 2001, Kai Henningsen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Cox) wrote on 09.05.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: you stand, it'll cost you around $15K and that, in my opinion, is fine. If it isn't worth $15K

Re: page_launder() bug

2001-05-14 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Torvalds) wrote on 13.05.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: And that's why I'd rather have generic support for _any_ page mapping that wants to drop pages early than have specific logic for swapping. Historically, we've always had very good results from trying to avoid

Re: IPv6: the same address can be added multiple times

2001-05-14 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David S. Miller) wrote on 13.05.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Pekka Savola writes: But it still looks dirty. Also, it's easier to add it many times by mistake; IPv4 addresses do not allow this. And as you have to remove them N times too, this may create even more

Re: Not a typewriter

2001-05-14 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11.05.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think man is the best help system ever devised. (The GNU Info system, however, is the spawn of Satan. :-) Both have good and bad parts. HTML and PDF are yet other such candidates. Something better is needed, but no two people seem

Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants

2001-05-15 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Cox) wrote on 15.05.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: it to a device number at /sbin/lilo time. An idiotic practice on the part of LILO, in my opinion, that ought to have been fixed a long time ago. That's why you want mount-root-by-partition-label, not by device

Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants

2001-05-15 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Torvalds) wrote on 15.05.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: just incredibly stupid today. There's a script for doing exactly this for SCSI. I forget what it's called, because I obviously think the thing is stupid, but giving people the power to do even silly things is what

Re: Getting FS access events

2001-05-15 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro) wrote on 15.05.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ... and Multics had all access to files through equivalent of mmap() in 60s. Segments in ls(1) got that name for a good reason. Where's something called segments connected with ls(1)? I can't seem to find the

Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants

2001-05-16 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel Phillips) wrote on 16.05.01 in 01051602593001.00406@starship: On Tuesday 15 May 2001 23:20, Nicolas Pitre wrote: Personally, I'd really like to see /dev/ttyS0 be the first detected serial port on a system, /dev/ttyS1 the second, etc. There are well-defined

Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants

2001-05-16 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Simmons) wrote on 15.05.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I couldn't agree with you more. It gives me headaches at work. One note, their is a except to the eth0 thing. USB to USB networking. It uses usb0, etc. I personally which they use eth0. USB to USB networking

Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants

2001-05-16 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (H. Peter Anvin) wrote on 15.05.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Personally, I would also like to see network devices manifest in the filesystem namespace like everything else. Yes. Can we have a meta-rule? *Every* by-name kernel interface should have a filesystem variant. That

Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants

2001-05-17 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Johannes Erdfelt) wrote on 15.05.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I had always made the assumption that sockets were created because you couldn't easily map IPv4 semantics onto filesystems. It's unreasonable to have a file for every possible IP address/port you can communicate

Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants

2001-05-17 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Torvalds) wrote on 15.05.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: They might also be exactly the same channel, except with certain magic bits set. The example peter gave was fine: tty devices could very usefully be opened with something like fd =

Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants

2001-05-17 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Lundell) wrote on 15.05.01 in p05100316b7272cdfd50c@[207.213.214.37]: What about: 1 (network domain). I have two network interfaces that I connect to two different network segments, eth0 eth1; they're ifconfig'd to the appropriate IP and MAC addresses. I

Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants

2001-05-17 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (H. Peter Anvin) wrote on 16.05.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: At some point something talks to the device -- in this case, it's the SCSI layer. Follow the interfaces in the kernel and it becomes obvious. rc = sys_iskind(int filehandle, const char *driverkind) rc = 0 or

Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants

2001-05-17 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Gooch) wrote on 16.05.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: H. Peter Anvin writes: Richard Gooch wrote: H. Peter Anvin writes: Richard Gooch wrote: Argh! What I wrote in text is what I meant to say. The code didn't match. No wonder people seemed to be

Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants

2001-05-19 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Johannes Erdfelt) wrote on 17.05.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, May 17, 2001, Kai Henningsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Johannes Erdfelt) wrote on 15.05.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I had always made the assumption that sockets were created because

Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants

2001-05-19 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Lundell) wrote on 17.05.01 in p05100301b72a335d4b61@[10.128.7.49]: At 11:23 PM +0200 2001-05-17, Kai Henningsen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Lundell) wrote on 15.05.01 in p05100316b7272cdfd50c@[207.213.214.37]: What about: 1 (network domain). I

Re: no ioctls for serial ports? [was Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Num

2001-05-20 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pavel Machek) wrote on 19.05.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think that plan9 uses something different -- they have ttyS0 and ttyS0ctl. This would leave us with problem how do I get handle to ttyS0ctl when I only have handle to ttyS0? I've seen this question several times in

Re: [RFD w/info-PATCH] device arguments from lookup, partion code

2001-05-21 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Torvalds) wrote on 20.05.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If we had nice infrastructure to make ioctl's more palatable, we could probably make do even with the current binary-number interfaces, simply because people would use the infrastructure without ever even _seeing_

Re: SCO: thread creation is about a thousand times faster than on

2000-08-31 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Torvalds) wrote on 27.08.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, 27 Aug 2000, Alexander Viro wrote: Linus, there is no need in new mask for execve(). What you're saying is "there are other ways to accomplish this". And I kind of agree. I still think the dynamic mask

Re: 2.4.0-test8-pre1 is quite bad / how about integrating Rik's VM

2000-09-06 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Dalecki) wrote on 06.09.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Alexander Viro wrote: On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Martin Dalecki wrote: Easy - the same way you do for cross compilation. Basically just: export CC=g++ --some-magic-long-option-i-dont-remember; make ... and

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M2FS for Linu

2000-09-09 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ingo Molnar) wrote on 05.09.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Andi Kleen wrote: I don't really believe that. It is as easy to add a silly NULL pointer check based on a oops as it is after a debugging session (and it is even likely you chose the simple fix

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M2FS forLinux

2000-09-09 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ingo Molnar) wrote on 05.09.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: debugging tools are not necesserily the most important goal to help the Linux kernel. IMO we rather need people who have a deeper understanding of things - even if this makes support a bit harder. If it was up to the

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M2FS for Linu

2000-09-09 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David S. Miller) wrote on 05.09.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't want this to start happening, and automated debugging/profiling tools tend to encourage people to operate in such a way. Somehow I suddenly get the impression we're talking past each others. Since when

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-09 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Torvalds) wrote on 06.09.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Tigran Aivazian wrote: very nice monologue, thanks. It would be great to know Linus' opinion. I mean, I knew Linus' opinion of some years' ago but perhaps it changed? He is a living being

Re: Linux-2.4.0-test8-pre6

2000-09-09 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro) wrote on 08.09.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: useless. Care to provide better example? I can, BTW, but it's much more convoluted and very rare. Furrfu... Which is exactly the point *I* am trying to make. The problems you need a debugger for are exactly the

Re: What is up with Redhat 7.0?

2000-10-07 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Hawkins) wrote on 03.10.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: One reason I stopped running and recommending Redhat was the inferior quality of their packages. They'd ship half-complete, half-assed packages and it was concerned end-users who'd have to make their own RPMS and

Re: Linux's implementation of poll() not scalable?

2000-10-25 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Torvalds) wrote on 23.10.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: actually inform about the events. The way to do this simply is to limit it in very clear ways, the most notable one being simply that there is only one event queue per process (or rather, per "struct files_struct" -

Re: ftruncate not extending files?

2001-03-03 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hugh Dickins) wrote on 02.03.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The SuSv2 quotations, above and in other mail, are just weasly. The next version is less weasly. Right now it's still a draft; what it says in draft 5 is this (note the markers which show what's optional to which

Re: Microsoft begining to open source Windows 2000?

2001-03-09 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Gaarden) wrote on 08.03.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Venkatesh Ramamurthy wrote: Please check out this article. Looks like microsoft know open source is the thing of the future. I would consider that it is a begining step for full blown GPL

Re: VGA PCI IO port reservations

2000-11-27 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Cox) wrote on 18.11.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It is. There are plenty of devices for which an arbitrary IN is an irrecoverable state transition. The ne2000 clones being the most infamous of them. Blind ISA read probing is not a safe business Hell, I've had

Re: ext2 directory size bug (?)

2000-12-02 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro) wrote on 02.12.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, 2 Dec 2000, Chris Wedgwood wrote: On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 12:14:34AM -0500, Alexander Viro wrote: Not really. Anything that modifies directories holds both -i_sem and -i_zombie, lookups hold

Re: /dev/random probs in 2.4test(12-pre3)

2000-12-19 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (H. Peter Anvin) wrote on 02.12.00 in 90cs2v$6u6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Again, that's wrong even when you replace /dev/random with something else. After all, you could be getting EINTR at any time, too, or get interrupted by a signal in the middle (in which case you'd get a

Re: About Celeron processor memory barrier problem

2000-12-24 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Torvalds) wrote on 23.12.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 23 Dec 1999, michael chen wrote: I found that when I compiled the 2.4 kernel with the option of Pentium III or Pentium 4 on a Celeron's PC, it could cause the system hang at very

Re: recommended gcc compiler version

2000-12-24 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anuradha Ratnaweera) wrote on 22.12.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Alan Cox wrote: For i386 2.2.18 gcc 2.7.2 or egcs-1.1.2 Just a remainder for debian users. There is a debian package gcc272 which is said to be the "GNU C compiler's C part",

Re: About Celeron processor memory barrier problem

2000-12-25 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Wright) wrote on 24.12.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 11:36:00AM +0200, Kai Henningsen wrote: There was a similar thread to this recently. The issue is that if you choose the wrong processor type, you may not even be able to complain. Hmm ... I

Re: How do we handle autoconfiguration?

2000-12-27 Thread Kai Henningsen
[CC: list drastically trimmed] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric S. Raymond) wrote on 26.12.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Linus, replying to Alan: If we do that I'd rather see a make autoconfig that does the lot from proc/pci etc 8) Good point. No point in adding a new config option, we should just

Re: Chipsets, DVD-RAM, and timeouts....

2001-01-02 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Cox) wrote on 01.01.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ./drivers/ide/ide-cd.c ./drivers/ide/ide-cd.h Adds ATAPI DVD-RAM native read/write mode for any FS. Interesting to say the least. But.. mke2fs -b 2048 /dev/hdc You must format to 2048 size

Re: non-gcc linux? (was Re: Where did kgcc go in 2.4.0-test10?)

2000-11-04 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christoph Hellwig) wrote on 02.11.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: As is being discussed here, C99 has some replacements to the gcc syntax the kernel uses. I believe the C99 syntax will win in the near future, and thus the gcc syntax

Re: non-gcc linux?

2000-11-04 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gábor Lénárt) wrote on 03.11.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 02:27:35PM -0700, Tim Riker wrote: #pragma is a particularly difficult problem to deal with because it is non macro friendly. =( Sounds like C99 initializers are a likely first target for

Re: non-gcc linux? (was Re: Where did kgcc go in 2.4.0-test10?)

2000-11-04 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Riker) wrote on 02.11.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1. C++ style comments Occurs in over 4000 lines of source and header files. :-( Should be converted to ansi c comments? We will probably want to just skirt this issue for now as the next rev of ANSI C is likely to

Re: non-gcc linux? (was Re: Where did kgcc go in 2.4.0-test10?)

2000-11-04 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Cox) wrote on 02.11.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How can I insure that the largest possible amount of my efforts benefit the community at large? Hopefully this will make it easier to move to C99 or any other future compiler porting project. The asm I dont know - its

Re: non-gcc linux?

2000-11-04 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Riker) wrote on 04.11.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Others that are commenting on the slow progress of some features in gcc should consider for themselves whether this position benefits the Open Source community or not. Slow progress in gcc? You know, I currently have a

Re: non-gcc linux? (was Re: Where did kgcc go in 2.4.0-test10?)

2000-11-04 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andi Kleen) wrote on 02.11.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: again with a different syntax than gcc [I guess it would have been too easy to just use the gcc syntax] One of the big problems in C99 was that there was nobody on the committee who really understood gcc well, so the

Re: non-gcc linux? (was Re: Where did kgcc go in 2.4.0-test10?)

2000-11-05 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Meissner) wrote on 04.11.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 02:24:00PM +0200, Kai Henningsen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andi Kleen) wrote on 02.11.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: again with a different syntax than gcc [I guess it would have been too

Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka I stick my neck out a mile...

2001-04-30 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro) wrote on 30.04.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Eric S. Raymond wrote: I don't think I've heard anyone invoke the 4-line rule since about 1992, though. I didn't start generating short random quotes into my sig until about 1996, well

Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd)

2001-05-03 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pavel Machek) wrote on 30.04.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: PS: Hmm, how do you do timewarp for just one userland appliation with this installed? 1. What on earth for? 2. How do you do it today, and why wouldn't that work? MfG Kai - To unsubscribe from this list: send the

Re: [PATCH] adding PCI bus information to SCSI layer

2001-05-03 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Lundell) wrote on 26.04.01 in p05100303b70eadd613b0@[207.213.214.37]: At 10:31 PM -0600 2001-04-26, Richard Gooch wrote: BTW: please fix your mailer to do linewrap at 72 characters. Your lines are hundreds of characters long, and that's hard to read. Sorry for

Re: need good linux *athlon* (tbird) motherboard..

2001-05-05 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonadab the Unsightly One) wrote on 04.05.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows) wrote: Hmm. For Athlon, the thl consonant combination occurs in such a way that the speaker can split the word into two syllables, ath and lon, Yes, you can do

Re: [PATCH] for iso8859-13

2001-05-07 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (H. Peter Anvin) wrote on 06.05.01 in 9d4ut6$9b9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Followup to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] By author:Andrzej Krzysztofowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel Hi, The following patch removed unused and broken conversion table from

Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-06 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro) wrote on 06.06.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Sean Hunter wrote: This is completely bogus. I am not saying that I can't afford the swap. What I am saying is that it is completely broken to require this amount of swap given the boundaries

Re: Alan Cox quote?

2001-06-19 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry McVoy) wrote on 19.06.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Another one that I can't believe I forgot is from Rob Pike: If you think you need threads then your processes are too fat And one from me: ``Think of it this way: threads are like salt, not like pasta. You

Re: temperature standard - global config option?

2001-06-21 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Boot) wrote on 08.06.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Only the truly stupid would assume accuracy from decimal places. Well then, tell all the teachers in this world that they're stupid, and tell everyone who learnt from them as well. *All*? I'm in high school (gd. 11,

Re: temperature standard - global config option?

2001-06-21 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lauri Tischler) wrote on 21.06.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Richard J Moore wrote: 59.42886726469 ±2°C is obviously ludicrous, even if that's what my calculator gives me. I should instead write 59 ±2°C, since So, if I follow you argument then shouldn't you be

Re: The latest Microsoft FUD. This time from BillG, himself.

2001-06-22 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Landley) wrote on 22.06.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thursday 21 June 2001 18:49, Alan Cox wrote: Except that Apple keeps the old code open. Probably because they'll gain nothing from it, and at best, they can appeal to the techies. A company that seems to

Re: Microsoft and Xenix.

2001-06-25 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Landley) wrote on 23.06.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: on April 2, 1987. (models 50, 60, and 80.) The SAA/SNA push also extended through the System/370 and AS400 stuff too. (I think 370's the mainframe and AS400 is the minicomputer, but I'd have to look it up. One of

Re: Microsoft and Xenix.

2001-06-25 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Landley) wrote on 24.06.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Now if somebody here could just point me to a decent reference on A/UX - Apple's mid-80's version of Unix (for the early macintosh, I believe...) http://www.google.com/search?q=%22%2ba/ux%22 Usually a good idea.

Re: [PATCH] User chroot

2001-06-27 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (H. Peter Anvin) wrote on 26.06.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Albert D. Cahalan wrote: Normal users can use an environment provided for them. While trying to figure out why the heyu program would not work on a Red Hat box, I did just this. As root I set up all the

Re: [PATCH] User chroot

2001-06-27 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jorgen Cederlof) wrote on 27.06.01 in 20010627014534.B2654@ondska: If we only allow user chroots for processes that have never been chrooted before, and if the suid/sgid bits won't have any effect under the new root, it should be perfectly safe to allow any user to

Re: [PATCH] User chroot

2001-06-28 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (H. Peter Anvin) wrote on 27.06.01 in 9hd7pl$86f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]: By author:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jorgen Cederlof) wrote on 27.06.01 in 20010627014534.B2654@ondska: If we only allow user chroots for processes that have never

Re: Cosmetic JFFS patch.

2001-06-28 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 28.06.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 The later line is not something of interest to most people, and if it happens to be they can research it rather than being force-fed history

Re: Cosmetic JFFS patch.

2001-06-28 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Torvalds) wrote on 28.06.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, David Woodhouse wrote: I agree the messages can be ugly. But they don't do any harm either, and sometimes they're useful. I consider them harmful when I start getting annoying patches that

Re: Cosmetic JFFS patch.

2001-07-01 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Torrey Hoffman) wrote on 30.06.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So they compile it into the linux_logo.h image. It's now under the GPL, of course... what does that do to the legal status of the logo? Copyright: you named it. Any other right: unchanged. (The GPL doesn't demand

Re: Cosmetic JFFS patch.

2001-07-01 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chuck Wolber) wrote on 29.06.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does sed tell you who programmed it on startup? Awk? Perl? Groff? Gcc? See a pattern here? Yeah, the output of these programms are usually parsed by other programs. s/usually/sometimes/ Most of

Re: DNS goofups galore...

2001-02-12 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Henning P. Schmiedehausen) wrote on 12.02.01 in 968mjv$l9t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Gyselinck) writes: There's not really something wrong with MX's pointing to CNAME's. It's just that some mailservers could (can?) not handle this. So if you want to be

Re: lkml subject line

2001-02-12 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matti Aarnio) wrote on 12.02.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 11:20:40AM +, Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote: Dear all (and list maintainers in particular) Wouldn't it be a good idea to prepend all lkml subjects with [LKML] like many other lists do to

Re: [rfc] Near-constant time directory index for Ext2

2001-02-22 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel Phillips) wrote on 20.02.01 in 01022020011905.18944@gimli: But the current hash function is just a place holder, waiting for an better version based on some solid theory. I currently favor the idea of using crc32 as the default hash function, but I welcome

Re: [rfc] Near-constant time directory index for Ext2

2001-02-22 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Mares) wrote on 22.02.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: One could avoid this, but it would mean designing the whole filesystem in a completely different way -- merge all directories to a single gigantic hash table and use (directory ID,file name) as a key, but we were

Re: Version 6.1.8 of the aic7xxx driver availalbe

2001-03-25 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Torvalds) wrote on 23.03.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: aic7xxx_proc.c: Use an unsigned long for total number of commands sent to a device. %q and %lld don't seem to work under

Re: Larger dev_t

2001-03-29 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Dalecki) wrote on 28.03.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Alan Cox wrote: Exactly. It's just that for historical reasons, I think the major for "disk" should be either the old IDE or SCSI one, which just can show more devices. That way old installers etc work

Re: [RFC] sane access to per-fs metadata (was Re: [PATCH] Documentatio

2001-04-01 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chip Salzenberg) wrote on 01.04.01 in E14jdkF-0007Ps-00@tytlal: Why not have a kernel thread and use standard RPC techniques like sockets? Then you'd not have to invent anything unimportant like Yet Another IPC Technique. You can, of course, transfer the exact same RPC

Re: New directions for kernel development

2001-04-01 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (john slee) wrote on 01.04.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 01:22:48AM -0800, Richard Gooch wrote: Linus Torvalds writes: Ho, hum. No, he didn't. It's April Wankers^WFools again. we aussies are supposed to have a good sense of humour :P Yeah, but

Re: bug database braindump from the kernel summit

2001-04-02 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Ford) wrote on 01.04.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Why not have the /proc/config option but instead of being plain text, make it binary with a userspace app that can interpret it? It could have a signature as to kernel version + patches and the rest would be just bits.

Re: Multi-function PCI devices

2001-04-08 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Waugh) wrote on 07.04.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 01:23:27PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: You asked in your last message to show you code, here is a short example. Note that I would love to rip out the SUPERIO code in parport and make it a

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML1 cleanup patch

2001-04-15 Thread Kai Henningsen
Warning: No kernel related stuff inside. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rik van Riel) wrote on 26.03.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, John Cowan wrote: In fact this has come up before: in Usenet software, which has to differentiate between an article and a sub-newsgroup. An article

Re: Should mount --bind not follow symlinks?

2001-04-16 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro) wrote on 12.03.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Anthony Heading wrote: Hi, My automounted dirs have up till now been symlinks, where e.g. /opt/perl defaults to automounting /export/opt/perl/LATEST which is a symlink. This all

Re: more git updates..

2005-04-20 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (H. Peter Anvin) wrote on 11.04.05 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Followup to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] By author:Christopher Li [EMAIL PROTECTED] In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel There is one problem though. How about the SHA1 hash collision? Even the chance is very remote, you

Re: [PATCH] adding PCI bus information to SCSI layer

2001-05-12 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Lundell) wrote on 11.05.01 in : > At 1:32 PM -0300 2001-05-11, Ralf Baechle wrote: > >On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 12:51:25AM -0700, Jonathan Lundell wrote: > >> Kai Henningsen wrote: > >> >What's a lot more important

Re: page_launder() bug

2001-05-08 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Horst von Brand) wrote on 07.05.01 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > "David S. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Jonathan Morton writes: > > > >-page_count(page) == (1 + !!page->buffers)); > > > > > > Two inversions in a row? > > > > It is the most

Re: Nasty Requirements for non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules?

2001-05-13 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Cox) wrote on 09.05.01 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > you stand, it'll cost you around $15K and that, in my opinion, is fine. > > If it isn't worth $15K to protect your code then it is worth so little to > > you that there really is no good reason not to just GPL it from

Re: Nasty Requirements for non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules?

2001-05-13 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Galbraith) wrote on 13.05.01 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 13 May 2001, Kai Henningsen wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Cox) wrote on 09.05.01 in > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > you stand, it'll cost you arou

Re: page_launder() bug

2001-05-14 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Torvalds) wrote on 13.05.01 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > And that's why I'd rather have generic support for _any_ page mapping that > wants to drop pages early than have specific logic for swapping. > Historically, we've always had very good results from trying to avoid >

Re: IPv6: the same address can be added multiple times

2001-05-14 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David S. Miller) wrote on 13.05.01 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Pekka Savola writes: > > But it still looks dirty. Also, it's easier to add it many times by > > mistake; IPv4 addresses do not allow this. And as you have to remove > > them N times too, this may create even

Re: Not a typewriter

2001-05-14 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11.05.01 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I think man is the best help system ever devised. (The GNU Info system, > however, is the spawn of Satan. :-) Both have good and bad parts. HTML and PDF are yet other such candidates. Something better is needed, but no two people

Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants

2001-05-15 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Cox) wrote on 15.05.01 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > it to a device number at /sbin/lilo time. An idiotic practice on the > > > part of LILO, in my opinion, that ought to have been fixed a long time > > > ago. > > > > That's why you want mount-root-by-partition-label,

Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants

2001-05-15 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Torvalds) wrote on 15.05.01 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > just incredibly stupid today. There's a script for doing exactly this for > SCSI. I forget what it's called, because I obviously think the thing is > stupid, but giving people the power to do even silly things is

Re: Getting FS access events

2001-05-15 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro) wrote on 15.05.01 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > ... and Multics had all access to files through equivalent of mmap() > in 60s. "Segments" in ls(1) got that name for a good reason. Where's something called "segments" connected with ls(1)? I can't seem to find

Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants

2001-05-16 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel Phillips) wrote on 16.05.01 in <01051602593001.00406@starship>: > On Tuesday 15 May 2001 23:20, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > > Personally, I'd really like to see /dev/ttyS0 be the first detected > > serial port on a system, /dev/ttyS1 the second, etc. > > There are

Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants

2001-05-16 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Simmons) wrote on 15.05.01 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I couldn't agree with you more. It gives me headaches at work. One note, > > > their is a except to the eth0 thing. USB to USB networking. It uses > > > usb0, etc. I personally which they use eth0. > > > > USB to

Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants

2001-05-16 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (H. Peter Anvin) wrote on 15.05.01 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Personally, I would also like to see network devices manifest in the > filesystem namespace like everything else. Yes. Can we have a meta-rule? *Every* by-name kernel interface should have a filesystem variant.

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