to resolve that situation.
What I do know is that it would be very wrong to remove isdn4linux,
because it has an existing userbase with nowhere else to go.
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not sure I understand. What do you mean by obsolete interface
usage? What sort of cleaning up needs to be done? What sort of
breakage do you anticipate in the event of a clean up?
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:13:37 -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:39:10 +0200 Tilman Schmidt wrote:
We *did* reach a consensus that isdn4linux is not obsolete in the
accepted sense of the word, because there is no replacement for it
so far.
OTOH I have since submitted (twice
Am 17.04.2007 17:33 schrieb Alan Cox:
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:40:54 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
If the obsolete tag is to be removed then it needs a formal maintainer,
all the obsolete interface usage cleaning up
ISDN4Linux (obsolete)
message type=recorded
The obsolete label on the ISDN_I4L Kconfig option is,
and has always been, incorrect.
isdn4linux is not obsolete.
isdn4linux is in active use, and there is no replacement.
Removing isdn4linux would constitute a serious regression.
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The obsolete label on the ISDN_I4L Kconfig option is not, and
has never been, accurate. It has already prompted repeated attempts
to remove actively used functionality from the kernel without a
working replacement. This patch removes the incorrect label
Am 21.04.2007 15:11 schrieb Robert P. J. Day:
On Sat, 21 Apr 2007, Tilman Schmidt wrote:
[...]
Removing isdn4linux would constitute a serious regression.
i know. believe me, i *know that*, since i'm fairly sure it was my
observation that initially started that discussion about isdn4linux
Am 22.04.2007 00:10 schrieb David Miller:
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Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 21:58:44 +0100
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The obsolete label on the ISDN_I4L Kconfig option
, it can be obsoleted, but not before.
I know people are less than happy this hasn't happened yet, but
the way to promote the move to CAPI is not to kill off I4L before
the time and leave users standing in the rain.
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of that API. As long as
they didn't finish that job, the old API would stay. Nobody advocates
moving reiserfs to BROKEN for still using lock_kernel(), to cite a
recent issue. So why isdn4linux?
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],
maintaining it in-tree might turn out to be not that much
better.
SCNR
T.
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to debug, at least when the user expects
his notebook to suspend and sees that it refuses, he can complain about the
drivers which do not support it, and can even unload them first if unneeded.
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whether or not the device requires .suspend and .resume, define .suspend that
will always return -ENOSYS.
Sounds ok to me. Where should this text go?
Documentation/SubmittingDrivers ?
Documentation/power/devices.txt?
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candidates.
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Am 11.02.2007 23:37 schrieb Nigel Cunningham:
On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 00:45 +0100, Tilman Schmidt wrote:
Am 10.02.2007 23:37 schrieb Nigel Cunningham:
If your device requires power management, and you know it requires power
management, why not just implement power management? [...]
Like
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I notice that 2.6.20-git6 still doesn't include either of these fixes.
Is there anything I need to do in order to push it?
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HTH
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Am 15.02.2007 22:56 schrieb Adrian Bunk:
Advanced Mathematics, lesson 1:
101 != 105
Ouch. Sorry. Thanks for catching that one.
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--- linux-2.6.20-mm1/drivers/isdn/gigaset/Makefile.old2007-02
/built-in.o] Error 1
How did you manage to produce that error? I have never encountered it.
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builds modular usb_gigaset.ko and/or ser_gigaset.ko
like the present one (including asyncdata.o), but when linking
usb-gigaset.o and ser-gigaset.o into the kernel includes asyncdata.o
only once. Trouble is, I don't know how to express that in Kbuild.
Any ideas?
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Am 17.02.2007 11:52 schrieb Adrian Bunk:
On Sat, Feb 17, 2007 at 01:04:33AM +0100, Tilman Schmidt wrote:
[...] I'd prefer a
Makefile which builds modular usb_gigaset.ko and/or ser_gigaset.ko
like the present one (including asyncdata.o), but when linking
usb-gigaset.o and ser-gigaset.o
is not easily reproduced. So far it only
happened when I left the machine running logged in but idle,
sometimes after a few hours, but sometimes not even after two days.
So bisecting appears impractical.
I'll try 2.6.21-rc4-mm1 next.
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Am 03.04.2007 00:50 schrieb Adrian Bunk:
We also have one bug kwin ran into that got fixed after -rc5:
Subject: kwin dies silently
References : http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/2/28/112
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Boris Mogwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Michael
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asyncdata.o is only needed for M105 and M101, not for the base
driver. How do I express in Kbuild that asyncdata.o is to be added
to gigaset-y only
and alternatives
should be preferred
* OBSOLETE == replacement available, no reason to use this code anymore
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a) Fix link error from double inclusion of asyncdata.o when building both
M10x drivers into the kernel, by moving it into the common part.
b) Correct the rule for building the common part into the kernel when
some or all hardware specific parts are built as modules.
Signed-off-by: Tilman Schmidt
reported it a couple of times, and Srinivasa Ds
tried a few fixes on me during 2.6.19-rc4, but we never got to
the bottom of it.
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(CONFIG_ISDN_CAPI) doesn't support all the hardware currently
supported by old i4l.
Or did I misunderstand something there?
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Am 15.01.2007 18:29 schrieb Karsten Keil:
On Mon, Jan 15, 2007 at 12:17:37PM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
[...] but if
it's still in actual use, then it really should be re-labelled from
obsolete to deprecated, no?
Good point.
May I?
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Remove
a) Remove #define acrobatics that have become unnecessary by
the move of asyncdata.o into the common part.
b) Correct the rule for building the common part into the kernel when
some or all hardware specific parts are built as modules.
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Mark some static arrays as const that aren't and shouldn't be modified,
and remove incorrect static attribute from some variables.
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Mark some static arrays as const that aren't and shouldn't be modified,
and remove incorrect static attribute from some variables.
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In the first submission
Am 25.02.2007 11:42 schrieb Pavel Machek:
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Am 20.02.2007 23:52 schrieb Robert P. J. Day:
deprecated means that there *is* a complete replacement available
*right now* and you should consider switching to it.
if you can't offer someone
was not declared. Should it be static?
and symbol shadows an earlier one varieties.
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on eg. /dev/ttyS1 to
N_GIGASET_M101 from the user space daemon I have written for that
purpose, and that user space daemon exits, my line discipline is
removed, ie. its .close method is called. That is true even if I
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decisions ;)
[CC list trimmed]
It's not on that list, but would you mind slipping
drivers-isdn-gigaset-mark-some-static-data-as-const-v2.patch
into 2.6.21 too? It's largely trivial but I'd like to get it
out of the door.
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Remove incorrect obsolete label from ISDN4Linux.
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Am 03.04.2007 00:50 schrieb Adrian Bunk:
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 05:21:06PM +0200, Tilman Schmidt wrote:
I'm sorry to say this has now happened with kernel 2.6.21-rc5, too.
[...] it's not reproducible and invariably
happens when I'm away from the machine.
I have now finally once seen
kernel ; make devel-pkg reads almost literally like
make kernel-devel.rpm.
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need
them in order to access your RTC, and none of them even mentions the
other, so it's way too easy to end up enabling both of them.
So are all my other woes a consequence of that one?
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round of tests.
Did that now. It does get rid of the
Duplicate file names rtc detected.
message. The other problems remain.
So are all my other woes a consequence of that one?
Apparently not.
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work_notifysig+0x13/0x1a
Sep 20 20:54:36 xenon kernel: [ 39.711169] [b7cf9f10] 0xb7cf9f10
Sep 20 20:54:36 xenon kernel: [ 39.711175] ===
As this seems to concern USB and sysfs, I guess Greg's the man?
HTH
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Add a paragraph to Documentation/usb/power-management.txt about the
interaction between suspend and disconnect.
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either.
Also it doesn't seem right that the entire kernel compilation
aborts just because of a failed sparse run.
Opinions?
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Fine by me.
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a prehistoric leftover. That variable was
originally accessed using atomic_set_mask() and atomic_clear_mask()
which are unfortunately x86 platform specific.
I'll prepare a cleanup patch.
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Haavard Skinnemoen schrieb:
No, use git rebase --interactive ;-)
What's that? I can't find it in man git-rebase.
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of having to sit through a one hour videostream, that would be
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tutorial for doing the standard
edit - test - modify - retest - submit - edit - resubmit sequence
with GIT? Is there a GIT newsgroup or mailinglist? Or should I just
post my silly questions to LKML?
TIA
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thinking. What I'm trying to do can't be that
different from what all those happy git users are doing. I guess
if I could just watch an experienced git user at work for a day
most of my problems would vanish.
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still held!
1 lock held by gigasetm101d/5970:
#0: (cs-hw.ser-dead_mutex){--..}, at: [c02d8bc7] mutex_lock+0x1c/0x1f
[...]
Who is at fault here?
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I'm not sure I can agree with that.
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:56:47 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 01:09:14AM +0200, Tilman Schmidt wrote:
Am 25.10.2007 00:31 schrieb Adrian Bunk:
Generally, the goal is to get external modules included into the kernel.
[...] even though it might sound harsh breaking
external
Greg KH schrieb:
On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 11:46:39AM +0200, Tilman Schmidt wrote:
[...] I still think there will always be
a number of external modules that cannot be merged right now or at
all, and deliberately making life difficult for out-of-tree code
maintainers in order to coerce them
Adrian Bunk schrieb:
On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 11:46:39AM +0200, Tilman Schmidt wrote:
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:56:47 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 01:09:14AM +0200, Tilman Schmidt wrote:
[...] Once you admit that there is code which, for very good
reasons, won't ever be accepted
/me wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/kernel/linux-2.6.23-mm1-work make
include/config/kernel.release
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/kernel/linux-2.6.23-mm1-work cat
include/config/kernel.release
2.6.23-mm1-testing
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/kernel/linux-2.6.23-mm1-work make
[...]
[EMAIL
the kernel.
That's good. If that was consensus then this discussion would
not be necessary. What I am protesting against is attempts to
change the API purposely to obstruct out-of-tree code. That is
not a way to improve the kernel.
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Am 28.10.2007 15:37 schrieb Stefan Richter:
Tilman Schmidt wrote:
Am 28.10.2007 10:25 schrieb Stefan Richter:
You two are hypothesizing.
No, we're not. We're discussing the very real issue of whether
LSM should be amputated in such a way as to make life difficult
for out of tree security
a pragmatic stance with regard to that: not going to any great
lengths to support it, but acknowledging its existence and
legitimacy - and not inciting to deliberately break it.
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how you feel
about it.
sarcasmHmm. So lets add automagic security module. It magically fixes
security holes, and you can feel good about it./sarcasm
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Am 29.10.2007 20:10 schrieb Alan Stern:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007, Tilman Schmidt wrote:
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Add basic suspend/resume support to the usb_gigaset driver.
@@ -117,6 +122,11 @@ static struct usb_driver gigaset_usb_dri
.probe =gigaset_probe
Am 29.10.2007 23:43 schrieb Emil Medve:
Removed duplicates defined elsewhere
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for:
diff --git a/drivers/isdn/gigaset/gigaset.h b/drivers/isdn/gigaset/gigaset.h
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Am 28.10.2007 20:25 schrieb Adrian Bunk:
On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 07:51:12PM +0100, Tilman Schmidt wrote:
Am 28.10.2007 02:55 schrieb Adrian Bunk:
Justifying anything with code with not GPL compatible licences has zero
relevance here.
And there's value in making life harder for such modules
Am 14.10.2007 00:11 schrieb Tilman Schmidt:
CONFIG_LOCALVERSION=-testing
[...]
has worked fine for all of 2.6.23{-rc?{,-mm?},}. For 2.6.23-mm1
[there is] make modules_install installing the
modules into /lib/modules/2.6.23-mm1 instead of
/lib/modules/2.6.23-mm1-testing, and make install
to be excuted. This might
lead to a heavy loaded ksoftirqd, wakeup with pending_softirq, but
tasklet is disabled. tasklet_kill should be used in this case.
Signed-off-by: Xiaotian Feng dannyf...@tencent.com
Cc: Hansjoerg Lipp hjl...@web.de
Cc: Tilman Schmidt til...@imap.cc
Cc: Karsten Keil i
by int_in_work() this might cause
int_in_work() to run after the post_reset method, with urb_int_in
already resubmitted, so handle that case gracefully.
Signed-off-by: Tilman Schmidt til...@imap.cc
---
drivers/isdn/gigaset/bas-gigaset.c | 19 ---
1 files changed, 16 insertions(+), 3
fine without network devices. But I guess not
many kernels will actually be built with CONFIG_NETDEVICES=n, so the
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messages have disappeared.
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- on console early during boot, also in SuSE's /var/log/boot.msg:
your system time is not correct:
Wed Jul 13 13:15:31 UTC 1910
setting system time to:
Tue Jul 24 00:00:00
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cannot figure out how.
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On my test machine with a Pentium D 940 processor, Intel DQ965GF
mainboard and SATA disks, kernel 2.6.22-git17 (32 bit build) fails
to come up because it cannot find the disk drives. Same issue
with a clone of the 'linus' git tree. Anything known?
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Ok, scrap this. Turns out it wasn't a good idea to answer 'Y' to
the new XEN config option during make oldconfig. After changing
it to CONFIG_XEN=n, all's well again. Sorry for the noise.
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and CONFIG_XEN=y, I
suppose. The resulting logs are a bit biggish, so I have put them on
http://www.phnxsoft.com/~ts/linux/ for download. Let me know if you
prefer having them mailed.
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to measure subjective
usability issues (aka user experience) when simple reports along the
lines of A is much better than B for everyday work are not enough.
The same problem already impaired the fair scheduler discussion.
It would really help to have a clear direction there.
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udev comes into play.
Booting with 'confirm' will allow you to step each runlevel script, see
/etc/init.d/boot, look for DO_CONFIRM=.
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So there, case solved. Now you sort it out who's to fix what. :-)
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DOM0 image is not an Xen-compatible Elf image.
So I guess the point is moot, because you cannot use the same image
as dom0 and natively, anyway.
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Am 23.07.2007 11:47 schrieb Michal Piotrowski:
Virtualization
Subject : 2.6.22-git17 boot failure (XEN)
References : http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/7/22/266
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responsiveness of a desktop
system, but apparently no one can conclusively explain why or how they
achieve that, and therefore they cannot be merged into mainline.
I don't have a solution to that dilemma either.
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Diese
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http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/7/18/245
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I've recently found (using 2.6.21.4) that configuring a serial ports
(ST16654) which use the 8250 driver using setserial results in the
UART's FIFOs being disabled (unless you specify autoconfig).
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Am 25.08.2007 02:07 schrieb Andrew Morton:
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 01:27:25 +0200
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Am 22.08.2007 11:06 schrieb Andrew Morton:
ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.23-rc3/2.6.23-rc3-mm1/
After applying Matthew Wilcox' patch
Am 25.08.2007 02:21 schrieb john stultz:
Tilman Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- on console early during boot, also in SuSE's /var/log/boot.msg:
your system time is not correct:
Wed Jul 13 13:15:31 UTC 1910
setting system time to:
Tue Jul 24 00:00:00 UTC 2007
Hrmm. I'm not super
with CPU Frequency scaling.
In make menuconfig the option is there, though.
After activating it, these two errors are indeed gone, and the
thermal: Unknown symbol acpi_processor_set_thermal_limit one
as well.
HTH
T.
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Am 26.08.2007 01:57 schrieb Randy Dunlap:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 01:26:21 +0200 Tilman Schmidt wrote:
Am 25.08.2007 02:38 schrieb Pallipadi, Venkatesh:
Tilman: Can you configure CONFIG_CPU_IDLE in your config (under Power
Management option) and double check that the frequency part works
.
(downloading ... running ... failing ... installing python-twisted ... running
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Ok, now I do.
HTH
T.
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