Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-11 Thread Dan Carpenter
On Mon, Oct 08, 2018 at 04:37:48PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > > I happen to think that the fact that the TAB cannot compel where it > > cannot persuade is a huge strength of the system because it means > > there's no power structure to subvert if someone were interested in > > using it to try to

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-11 Thread Dan Carpenter
On Mon, Oct 08, 2018 at 04:37:48PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > > I happen to think that the fact that the TAB cannot compel where it > > cannot persuade is a huge strength of the system because it means > > there's no power structure to subvert if someone were interested in > > using it to try to

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-10 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Wed, 10 Oct 2018 21:09:48 +0100 Alan Cox escreveu: > On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 14:19:17 -0300 > Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > > > Em Wed, 10 Oct 2018 16:53:08 +0100 > > Alan Cox escreveu: > > > > > > -Maintainers have the right and responsibility to remove, edit, or > > > > reject > > > >

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-10 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Wed, 10 Oct 2018 21:09:48 +0100 Alan Cox escreveu: > On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 14:19:17 -0300 > Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > > > Em Wed, 10 Oct 2018 16:53:08 +0100 > > Alan Cox escreveu: > > > > > > -Maintainers have the right and responsibility to remove, edit, or > > > > reject > > > >

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-10 Thread Alan Cox
On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 14:19:17 -0300 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > Em Wed, 10 Oct 2018 16:53:08 +0100 > Alan Cox escreveu: > > > > -Maintainers have the right and responsibility to remove, edit, or reject > > > +Maintainers may remove, edit, or reject > > > comments, commits, code, wiki edits,

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-10 Thread Alan Cox
On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 14:19:17 -0300 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > Em Wed, 10 Oct 2018 16:53:08 +0100 > Alan Cox escreveu: > > > > -Maintainers have the right and responsibility to remove, edit, or reject > > > +Maintainers may remove, edit, or reject > > > comments, commits, code, wiki edits,

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-10 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Wed, 10 Oct 2018 16:53:08 +0100 Alan Cox escreveu: > > -Maintainers have the right and responsibility to remove, edit, or reject > > +Maintainers may remove, edit, or reject > > comments, commits, code, wiki edits, issues, and other contributions that > > are > > not aligned to this Code

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-10 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Wed, 10 Oct 2018 16:53:08 +0100 Alan Cox escreveu: > > -Maintainers have the right and responsibility to remove, edit, or reject > > +Maintainers may remove, edit, or reject > > comments, commits, code, wiki edits, issues, and other contributions that > > are > > not aligned to this Code

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-10 Thread Alan Cox
> -Maintainers have the right and responsibility to remove, edit, or reject > +Maintainers may remove, edit, or reject > comments, commits, code, wiki edits, issues, and other contributions that are > not aligned to this Code of Conduct, or to ban temporarily or permanently any > contributor

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-10 Thread Alan Cox
> -Maintainers have the right and responsibility to remove, edit, or reject > +Maintainers may remove, edit, or reject > comments, commits, code, wiki edits, issues, and other contributions that are > not aligned to this Code of Conduct, or to ban temporarily or permanently any > contributor

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-08 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Sat, 06 Oct 2018 14:37:31 -0700 James Bottomley escreveu: > Significant concern has been expressed about the responsibilities outlined in > the enforcement clause of the new code of conduct. Since there is concern > that this becomes binding on the release of the 4.19 kernel, strip the >

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-08 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Sat, 06 Oct 2018 14:37:31 -0700 James Bottomley escreveu: > Significant concern has been expressed about the responsibilities outlined in > the enforcement clause of the new code of conduct. Since there is concern > that this becomes binding on the release of the 4.19 kernel, strip the >

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-08 Thread Josh Triplett
On Mon, Oct 08, 2018 at 02:15:25PM -0400, Chris Mason wrote: > On 6 Oct 2018, at 17:37, James Bottomley wrote: > > Significant concern has been expressed about the responsibilities > > outlined in > > the enforcement clause of the new code of conduct. Since there is > > concern > > that this

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-08 Thread Josh Triplett
On Mon, Oct 08, 2018 at 02:15:25PM -0400, Chris Mason wrote: > On 6 Oct 2018, at 17:37, James Bottomley wrote: > > Significant concern has been expressed about the responsibilities > > outlined in > > the enforcement clause of the new code of conduct. Since there is > > concern > > that this

RE: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-08 Thread Tim.Bird
> -Original Message- > From: James Bottomley > > On Mon, 2018-10-08 at 17:58 +, tim.b...@sony.com wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > > From: James Bottomley > > > > > > On Mon, 2018-10-08 at 13:51 +, tim.b...@sony.com wrote: > > > > > -Original Message- > > > >

RE: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-08 Thread Tim.Bird
> -Original Message- > From: James Bottomley > > On Mon, 2018-10-08 at 17:58 +, tim.b...@sony.com wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > > From: James Bottomley > > > > > > On Mon, 2018-10-08 at 13:51 +, tim.b...@sony.com wrote: > > > > > -Original Message- > > > >

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-08 Thread James Bottomley
On Mon, 2018-10-08 at 17:58 +, tim.b...@sony.com wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: James Bottomley > > > > On Mon, 2018-10-08 at 13:51 +, tim.b...@sony.com wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: James Bottomley > > > > On Sat, 2018-10-06 at 21:43 +,

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-08 Thread James Bottomley
On Mon, 2018-10-08 at 17:58 +, tim.b...@sony.com wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: James Bottomley > > > > On Mon, 2018-10-08 at 13:51 +, tim.b...@sony.com wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: James Bottomley > > > > On Sat, 2018-10-06 at 21:43 +,

RE: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-08 Thread Tim.Bird
> -Original Message- > From: James Bottomley > > On Mon, 2018-10-08 at 13:51 +, tim.b...@sony.com wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > > From: James Bottomley > > > On Sat, 2018-10-06 at 21:43 +, tim.b...@sony.com wrote: > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > From:

RE: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-08 Thread Tim.Bird
> -Original Message- > From: James Bottomley > > On Mon, 2018-10-08 at 13:51 +, tim.b...@sony.com wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > > From: James Bottomley > > > On Sat, 2018-10-06 at 21:43 +, tim.b...@sony.com wrote: > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > From:

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-08 Thread Alan Cox
> I happen to think that the fact that the TAB cannot compel where it > cannot persuade is a huge strength of the system because it means > there's no power structure to subvert if someone were interested in > using it to try to impose their own viewpoint on the community. But > that's just my

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-08 Thread Alan Cox
> I happen to think that the fact that the TAB cannot compel where it > cannot persuade is a huge strength of the system because it means > there's no power structure to subvert if someone were interested in > using it to try to impose their own viewpoint on the community. But > that's just my

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-08 Thread jonsm...@gmail.com
On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:51 AM wrote: > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: James Bottomley > > On Sat, 2018-10-06 at 21:43 +, tim.b...@sony.com wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: James Bottomley > > > > > > > > Significant concern has been expressed about the

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-08 Thread jonsm...@gmail.com
On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:51 AM wrote: > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: James Bottomley > > On Sat, 2018-10-06 at 21:43 +, tim.b...@sony.com wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: James Bottomley > > > > > > > > Significant concern has been expressed about the

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-08 Thread James Bottomley
On Mon, 2018-10-08 at 13:51 +, tim.b...@sony.com wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: James Bottomley  > > On Sat, 2018-10-06 at 21:43 +, tim.b...@sony.com wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: James Bottomley > > > > > > > > Significant concern has been

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-08 Thread James Bottomley
On Mon, 2018-10-08 at 13:51 +, tim.b...@sony.com wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: James Bottomley  > > On Sat, 2018-10-06 at 21:43 +, tim.b...@sony.com wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: James Bottomley > > > > > > > > Significant concern has been

RE: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-08 Thread Tim.Bird
> -Original Message- > From: James Bottomley > On Sat, 2018-10-06 at 21:43 +, tim.b...@sony.com wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > > From: James Bottomley > > > > > > Significant concern has been expressed about the responsibilities > > > outlined in the enforcement clause

RE: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-08 Thread Tim.Bird
> -Original Message- > From: James Bottomley > On Sat, 2018-10-06 at 21:43 +, tim.b...@sony.com wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > > From: James Bottomley > > > > > > Significant concern has been expressed about the responsibilities > > > outlined in the enforcement clause

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-07 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 11:37 PM James Bottomley wrote: > Significant concern has been expressed about the responsibilities outlined in > the enforcement clause of the new code of conduct. Since there is concern > that this becomes binding on the release of the 4.19 kernel, strip the >

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-07 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 11:37 PM James Bottomley wrote: > Significant concern has been expressed about the responsibilities outlined in > the enforcement clause of the new code of conduct. Since there is concern > that this becomes binding on the release of the 4.19 kernel, strip the >

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-07 Thread Guenter Roeck
On 10/06/2018 02:37 PM, James Bottomley wrote: Significant concern has been expressed about the responsibilities outlined in the enforcement clause of the new code of conduct. Since there is concern that this becomes binding on the release of the 4.19 kernel, strip the enforcement clauses to

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-07 Thread Guenter Roeck
On 10/06/2018 02:37 PM, James Bottomley wrote: Significant concern has been expressed about the responsibilities outlined in the enforcement clause of the new code of conduct. Since there is concern that this becomes binding on the release of the 4.19 kernel, strip the enforcement clauses to

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-07 Thread Shuah Khan
On 10/06/2018 03:37 PM, James Bottomley wrote: > Significant concern has been expressed about the responsibilities outlined in > the enforcement clause of the new code of conduct. Since there is concern > that this becomes binding on the release of the 4.19 kernel, strip the > enforcement clauses

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-07 Thread Shuah Khan
On 10/06/2018 03:37 PM, James Bottomley wrote: > Significant concern has been expressed about the responsibilities outlined in > the enforcement clause of the new code of conduct. Since there is concern > that this becomes binding on the release of the 4.19 kernel, strip the > enforcement clauses

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-06 Thread James Bottomley
On Sat, 2018-10-06 at 21:43 +, tim.b...@sony.com wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: James Bottomley > > > > Significant concern has been expressed about the responsibilities > > outlined in the enforcement clause of the new code of > > conduct.  Since there is concern that this

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-06 Thread James Bottomley
On Sat, 2018-10-06 at 21:43 +, tim.b...@sony.com wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: James Bottomley > > > > Significant concern has been expressed about the responsibilities > > outlined in the enforcement clause of the new code of > > conduct.  Since there is concern that this

RE: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-06 Thread Tim.Bird
> -Original Message- > From: James Bottomley > > Significant concern has been expressed about the responsibilities outlined in > the enforcement clause of the new code of conduct. Since there is concern > that this becomes binding on the release of the 4.19 kernel, strip the >

RE: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

2018-10-06 Thread Tim.Bird
> -Original Message- > From: James Bottomley > > Significant concern has been expressed about the responsibilities outlined in > the enforcement clause of the new code of conduct. Since there is concern > that this becomes binding on the release of the 4.19 kernel, strip the >