Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-22 Thread Jean Delvare
Hi Trent, On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 05:58:10 -0800 (PST), Trent Piepho wrote: On Sat, 21 Feb 2009, Jean Delvare wrote: Well, that's basically what Hans has been doing with v4l2-i2c-drv-legacy.h for months now, isn't it? This is the easy part (even though even this wasn't exactly trivial...)

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-21 Thread Jean Delvare
Hi Mauro, Only answering points Hans didn't already answered (and I agree with him): On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:23:27 -0300, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:01:05 +0100 Jean Delvare kh...@linux-fr.org wrote: Not necessarily something to be proud about. This only shows how

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-21 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:28:50 +0100 Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Saturday 21 February 2009 03:13:50 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:12:53 +0100 Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl wrote: I think that maybe we'll need some legacy-like support for bttv and

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-21 Thread Trent Piepho
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:12:53 +0100 Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl wrote: I think that maybe we'll need some legacy-like support for bttv and cx88, since there are some boards that relies on the old i2c method to work. On those boards

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-21 Thread Hans Verkuil
On Saturday 21 February 2009 12:58:01 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:28:50 +0100 Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Saturday 21 February 2009 03:13:50 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:12:53 +0100 Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl wrote:

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-21 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:45:40 +0100 Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl wrote: tda9840 support is provided by tda9840.ko, but there's no request_module() or any other reference (except for the above comment) to it at bttv driver. I believe that this is not an isolated case. The tda9840 is

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-21 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 04:06:53 -0800 (PST) Trent Piepho xy...@speakeasy.org wrote: On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:12:53 +0100 Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl wrote: I think that maybe we'll need some legacy-like support for bttv and cx88,

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-21 Thread Jean Delvare
Hi Trent, On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 04:06:53 -0800 (PST), Trent Piepho wrote: On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:12:53 +0100 Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl wrote: That's what the i2c_new_probed_device() call is for (called through

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-21 Thread Jean Delvare
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:28:31 +0100, Hans Verkuil wrote: On Saturday 21 February 2009 14:11:30 Jean Delvare wrote: Well, that's basically what Hans has been doing with v4l2-i2c-drv-legacy.h for months now, isn't it? This is the easy part (even though even this wasn't exactly trivial...)

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-21 Thread Trent Piepho
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009, Jean Delvare wrote: On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 04:06:53 -0800 (PST), Trent Piepho wrote: The new i2c driver interface also supports a -detect() method and a list of address_data to use it with. This is much more like the legacy model than using i2c_new_probed_device().

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-21 Thread Jean Delvare
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:45:40 +0100, Hans Verkuil wrote: On Saturday 21 February 2009 12:58:01 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:28:50 +0100 Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl wrote: OK, once more: there are two types of legacy code: one is that drivers have to be switched

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-21 Thread hermann pitton
Hi, just a short confirmation for cx88xx cards with external audio decoders. Am Samstag, den 21.02.2009, 09:56 -0300 schrieb Mauro Carvalho Chehab: On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:45:40 +0100 Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl wrote: tda9840 support is provided by tda9840.ko, but there's no

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-21 Thread Jean Delvare
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 10:42:17 -0600 (CST), kilg...@banach.math.auburn.edu wrote: This is not exactly what I was trying to say. I'll try again. 1. Anyone who would call himself a developer will run quite recent kernels without being forced to do so, voluntarily and with pleasure. 2.

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-20 Thread hermann pitton
Am Freitag, den 20.02.2009, 10:49 +0100 schrieb Jean Delvare: On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 07:53:16 +0100, Hans Verkuil wrote: On Friday 20 February 2009 04:57:11 hermann pitton wrote: Hans decided deliberately to extend backward compat even down to 2.6.16, now seeing the bill. I didn't

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-20 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:01:05 +0100 Jean Delvare kh...@linux-fr.org wrote: Hi Mauro, On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 07:10:41 -0300, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:55:53 +0100 (CET) Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl wrote: Not at all. I work with embedded systems and what

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-20 Thread Hans Verkuil
On Saturday 21 February 2009 01:23:27 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:01:05 +0100 Jean Delvare kh...@linux-fr.org wrote: Hi Mauro, On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 07:10:41 -0300, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:55:53 +0100 (CET) Hans Verkuil

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-20 Thread kilgota
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:01:05 +0100 Jean Delvare kh...@linux-fr.org wrote: Hi Mauro, On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 07:10:41 -0300, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:55:53 +0100 (CET) Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl wrote: Not at

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-20 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:12:53 +0100 Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl wrote: I think that maybe we'll need some legacy-like support for bttv and cx88, since there are some boards that relies on the old i2c method to work. On those boards (like cx88 Pixelview), the same board model (and PCB

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-19 Thread hermann pitton
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 18.02.2009, 14:01 +0100 schrieb Jean Delvare: Hi Mauro, On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 07:10:41 -0300, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:55:53 +0100 (CET) Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl wrote: Not at all. I work with embedded systems and what happens is

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-19 Thread Hans Verkuil
On Friday 20 February 2009 04:57:11 hermann pitton wrote: Hi, cut --- I don't want to come up with old stories about what happened in the past, there are some. It looks like Jean tries to find a good compromise. So, I don't deny, that recent Fedora stuff is not as stable as it was for

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-18 Thread Uri Shkolnik
--- On Wed, 2/18/09, Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl wrote: From: Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl Subject: Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@infradead.org Cc: Jean Delvare kh...@linux-fr.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org Date: Wednesday

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-18 Thread Hans Verkuil
--- On Wed, 2/18/09, Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl wrote: From: Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl Subject: Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@infradead.org Cc: Jean Delvare kh...@linux-fr.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org Date: Wednesday

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-18 Thread Hans Verkuil
Hi Mauro, On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:55:53 +0100 (CET) Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl wrote: Not at all. I work with embedded systems and what happens is that you effectively take a kernel snapshot for your device and stick to that. You're not using v4l-dvb, but you might backport important

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-18 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:54:30 +0100 (CET) Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl wrote: Hi Mauro, On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:55:53 +0100 (CET) Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl wrote: Not at all. I work with embedded systems and what happens is that you effectively take a kernel snapshot for your

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-18 Thread Jean Delvare
Hi Mauro, On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 07:10:41 -0300, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:55:53 +0100 (CET) Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl wrote: Not at all. I work with embedded systems and what happens is that you effectively take a kernel snapshot for your device and stick to

Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-17 Thread Jean Delvare
kernel version supported by the v4l-dvb repository from 2.6.16 to at least 2.6.22. Ideal for us would even be 2.6.26, but I would understand that this is too recent for you. Kernel 2.6.22 is one year and a half old, I honestly doubt that people fighting to get their brand new TV adapter to work

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-17 Thread Laurent Pinchart
, and our progress is slow. So I would like you to consider changing the minimum kernel version supported by the v4l-dvb repository from 2.6.16 to at least 2.6.22. Ideal for us would even be 2.6.26, but I would understand that this is too recent for you. Kernel 2.6.22 is one year and a half old, I

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-17 Thread Hans Verkuil
already be all done. But as things stand today, he has to do most of the work, and our progress is slow. So I would like you to consider changing the minimum kernel version supported by the v4l-dvb repository from 2.6.16 to at least 2.6.22. Ideal for us would even be 2.6.26, but I would

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-17 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
of the work, and our progress is slow. So I would like you to consider changing the minimum kernel version supported by the v4l-dvb repository from 2.6.16 to at least 2.6.22. Ideal for us would even be 2.6.26, but I would understand that this is too recent for you. Kernel 2.6.22 is one year

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-17 Thread Hans Verkuil
, and this would already be all done. But as things stand today, he has to do most of the work, and our progress is slow. So I would like you to consider changing the minimum kernel version supported by the v4l-dvb repository from 2.6.16 to at least 2.6.22. Ideal for us would even be 2.6.26

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-17 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
would probably have been able to convert most of the drivers myself, without Hans' help, and this would already be all done. But as things stand today, he has to do most of the work, and our progress is slow. So I would like you to consider changing the minimum kernel version supported

Re: Minimum kernel version supported by v4l-dvb

2009-02-17 Thread Hans Verkuil
is slow. So I would like you to consider changing the minimum kernel version supported by the v4l-dvb repository from 2.6.16 to at least 2.6.22. Ideal for us would even be 2.6.26, but I would understand that this is too recent for you. Kernel 2.6.22 is one year and a half old, I