On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 09:53:35AM -0600, David Engel wrote:
I moved the disks and tuner cards (2 Kworld ATSC 115s, 1 Hauppauge PVR
250 and 1 Hauppauge PVR 350) to the new system (AMD X2 3600 CPU and
Biostar TForce 550 motherboard). Things went fairly smoothly and I
seemed to have full
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 05:58:54PM -0500, Devin Heitmueller wrote:
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 5:48 PM, David Engel da...@istwok.net wrote:
The BER isn't totally unreliable. Yes, when it's low, it does seem to
be meaningless. However, when it's high, as in my recent attempts to
try a 115 by
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 02:35:00PM -0500, CityK wrote:
David Engel wrote:
I'll start with what worked.
... [test results of BER and UNC under varying configurations ] ...
Steven Toth wrote:
I think CityK confirmed that the nxt2004 driver statistics are
probably bogus so I doubt
David Engel wrote:
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 02:35:00PM -0500, CityK wrote:
David Engel wrote:
I'll start with what worked.
... [test results of BER and UNC under varying configurations ] ...
Steven Toth wrote:
I think CityK confirmed that the nxt2004 driver statistics are
probably bogus
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Steven Toth st...@linuxtv.org wrote:
Do you still see high BER and high UNC?
I won't be able to try anything more until tomorrow evening.
I think you're missing something, though, Steven. The In every case
was in reference to without an x50 installed and
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 05:03:28PM -0500, Devin Heitmueller wrote:
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Steven Toth st...@linuxtv.org wrote:
I'm out of time. Someone else want to jump in and assist?
- Steve
Given David's last summary of results, it seems like the BER indicator
for that
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 5:48 PM, David Engel da...@istwok.net wrote:
The BER isn't totally unreliable. Yes, when it's low, it does seem to
be meaningless. However, when it's high, as in my recent attempts to
try a 115 by itself, it indicates that nothing will work.
Maybe I am missing
Devin Heitmueller wrote:
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 5:48 PM, David Engel da...@istwok.net wrote:
The BER isn't totally unreliable. Yes, when it's low, it does seem to
be meaningless. However, when it's high, as in my recent attempts to
try a 115 by itself, it indicates that nothing will work.
David Engel wrote:
I'll start with what worked.
... [test results of BER and UNC under varying configurations ] ...
Steven Toth wrote:
I think CityK confirmed that the nxt2004 driver statistics are
probably bogus so I doubt you're going to get your 115's running with
BER 0 regardless,
Am Mittwoch, 18. Februar 2009 19:37:23 schrieb CityK:
It should be noted that a common element here in the two cases is the
Nxt2004 (demod for both the A180 and 11x cards).
Yes, that's right. After testing different configurations, I believe
that the problem with corrupted QAM recordings has
CityK wrote:
Steven Toth wrote:
Agreed, probably a secondary issue - which probably needs some
attention regardless.
I don't follow kworld products so I don't pretend to know which demod
they're using. I guess my question to the wider audience is, do people
with this same demod on other cards
FWIW, I used a different 115 with that same motherboard for several
months up until about two weeks ago and with that same graphics card
for most of that time. Like I said above, I've got to be missing
something very stupid here.
BTW, during all of the testing without the active splitter, I
It then dawned on my why the 115-only results were so bad. I had left
the 4-way splitter output used for the x50s unterminated. Sure
enough, if I disconnected the x50s, I reproduced the severe errors. I
didn't tear everything back apart to verify it, but I believe the 115s
would work
Am Dienstag, 17. Februar 2009 21:19:45 schrieben Sie:
[...]
So what does all of this indicate? My original hunch was that it's a
problem with the x50 hardware or driver (at least in combination with
my motherboard). I think I'm back to that conclusion.
BTW, in my testing last night, I tried
I then removed the 250 from slot 4 leaving the 115s in slots 1 and 2.
The ber was through the roof and the recorded strams were filled with
errors and were barely playable at best.
This is bad, you have something wrong with your feeds. They're probably
over amp'd and your leaking RF like
Devin Heitmueller wrote:
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Steven Toth st...@linuxtv.org wrote:
The driver is probably buggy. Either its really reporting pre-viterbi errors
OR it's reporting real post-viterbi errors - but in which case why aren't we
also measuring uncorrected blocks?
Regardless
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 09:25:07AM +0100, Rudy Zijlstra wrote:
It then dawned on my why the 115-only results were so bad. I had left
the 4-way splitter output used for the x50s unterminated. Sure
enough, if I disconnected the x50s, I reproduced the severe errors. I
didn't tear
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 09:56:13AM -0500, Steven Toth wrote:
I then removed the 250 from slot 4 leaving the 115s in slots 1 and 2.
The ber was through the roof and the recorded strams were filled with
errors and were barely playable at best.
This is bad, you have something wrong with
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 04:41:40AM -0800, Andreas wrote:
Am Dienstag, 17. Februar 2009 21:19:45 schrieben Sie:
[...]
So what does all of this indicate? My original hunch was that it's a
problem with the x50 hardware or driver (at least in combination with
my motherboard). I think I'm
Steven Toth wrote:
Agreed, probably a secondary issue - which probably needs some
attention regardless.
I don't follow kworld products so I don't pretend to know which demod
they're using. I guess my question to the wider audience is, do people
with this same demod on other cards experience
Andreas wrote:
Just to let you know that you're not alone:
I had a simiilar problem with the combination of an AverMedia A180 and
two Asus Falcon (they use the ivtv drivers and firmware). Whenever one
of the Falcons was recording, I got blips and dropouts on the
AverMedia. I chalked it off
Hi,
My old, MythTV, master backend finally gave up the ghost this past
weekend. The power supply or motherboard got bad enough there wa no
stability. No big deal. I was planning to replace that system soon
and had all of the parts ready anyway.
I moved the disks and tuner cards (2 Kworld ATSC
David Engel wrote:
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:05:40AM -0500, Steven Toth wrote:
Does anyone know what might be going on? These very same tuner cards
worked fine in the old system (Intel P4 3.0GHz CPU and Abit IC7
motherboard) for close to two years.
Determine whether this is an RF issue, or a
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 03:29:13PM -0500, Steven Toth wrote:
David Engel wrote:
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:05:40AM -0500, Steven Toth wrote:
Does anyone know what might be going on? These very same tuner cards
worked fine in the old system (Intel P4 3.0GHz CPU and Abit IC7
motherboard) for
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:56 PM, David Engel da...@istwok.net wrote:
I have anohter system, with only an ATSC 115 and a video card. It has
nearly identical numbers from femon as the system with the PVRs.
Didn't the PVR-250/350 have some sort of PCI DMA issues? (I thought I
remember reading
Devin Heitmueller wrote:
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:56 PM, David Engel da...@istwok.net wrote:
I have anohter system, with only an ATSC 115 and a video card. It has
nearly identical numbers from femon as the system with the PVRs.
Didn't the PVR-250/350 have some sort of PCI DMA issues? (I
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Steven Toth st...@linuxtv.org wrote:
The driver is probably buggy. Either its really reporting pre-viterbi errors
OR it's reporting real post-viterbi errors - but in which case why aren't we
also measuring uncorrected blocks?
Regardless of Davids actual
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