2011/6/22 Markus Rechberger mrechber...@gmail.com:
My very little opinion is that waving GPL is way to the hell. Nobody told me
why similar technologies, in different kernel parts are acceptable,
but not here.
since a customer was trying to use this module the only feedback I can give
Em 21-06-2011 14:38, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/21 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
Em 21-06-2011 12:09, Andreas Oberritter escreveu:
On 06/21/2011 04:35 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 21-06-2011 11:15, Andreas Oberritter escreveu:
On 06/21/2011 03:44 PM, Devin Heitmueller wrote:
On
On 06/22/2011 02:17 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 21-06-2011 14:38, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/21 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
Em 21-06-2011 12:09, Andreas Oberritter escreveu:
On 06/21/2011 04:35 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 21-06-2011 11:15, Andreas Oberritter escreveu:
2011/6/22 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
Em 21-06-2011 14:38, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/21 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
Em 21-06-2011 12:09, Andreas Oberritter escreveu:
On 06/21/2011 04:35 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 21-06-2011 11:15, Andreas Oberritter escreveu:
Em 22-06-2011 09:37, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/22 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
Em 21-06-2011 14:38, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/21 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
Em 21-06-2011 12:09, Andreas Oberritter escreveu:
On 06/21/2011 04:35 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 21-06-2011
On 06/22/2011 02:55 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 22-06-2011 09:30, Andreas Oberritter escreveu:
On 06/22/2011 02:17 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 21-06-2011 14:38, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/21 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
Em 21-06-2011 12:09, Andreas Oberritter escreveu:
On 06/22/2011 03:03 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 22-06-2011 09:37, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/22 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
Em 21-06-2011 14:38, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/21 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
Em 21-06-2011 12:09, Andreas Oberritter escreveu:
On 06/21/2011
2011/6/22 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
Em 22-06-2011 09:30, Andreas Oberritter escreveu:
On 06/22/2011 02:17 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 21-06-2011 14:38, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/21 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
Em 21-06-2011 12:09, Andreas Oberritter escreveu:
Em 22-06-2011 10:13, Andreas Oberritter escreveu:
On 06/22/2011 03:03 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 22-06-2011 09:37, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/22 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
Em 21-06-2011 14:38, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/21 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
Em 21-06-2011
2011/6/22 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
Em 22-06-2011 10:13, Andreas Oberritter escreveu:
On 06/22/2011 03:03 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 22-06-2011 09:37, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/22 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
Em 21-06-2011 14:38, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/21 Mauro
Em 22-06-2011 11:03, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/22 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
Em 22-06-2011 10:13, Andreas Oberritter escreveu:
On 06/22/2011 03:03 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 22-06-2011 09:37, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/22 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
Em 21-06-2011
On 06/22/2011 03:45 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 22-06-2011 10:13, Andreas Oberritter escreveu:
On 06/22/2011 03:03 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 22-06-2011 09:37, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/22 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
Em 21-06-2011 14:38, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/21
Em 22-06-2011 11:24, Andreas Oberritter escreveu:
On 06/22/2011 03:45 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 22-06-2011 10:13, Andreas Oberritter escreveu:
On 06/22/2011 03:03 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 22-06-2011 09:37, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/22 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
This is not a political issue. It is a licensing issue. If you want to use
someone's else code, you need to accept the licensing terms that the
developers
are giving you, by either paying the price for the code usage (on closed
source
licensing models), or by accepting the license when
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 8:10 PM, HoP jpetr...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
get inspired by (unfortunately close-source) solution on stb
Dreambox 800 I have made my own implementation
of virtual DVB device, based on the same device API.
In conjunction with Dreamtuner userland project
Em 22-06-2011 16:18, Rémi Denis-Courmont escreveu:
Le mercredi 22 juin 2011 15:17:27 Mauro Carvalho Chehab, vous avez écrit :
My very little opinion is that waving GPL is way to the hell. Nobody told
me why similar technologies, in different kernel parts are acceptable,
but not here.
If you
On 06/21/2011 03:35 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 20-06-2011 18:31, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/20 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
Em 20-06-2011 17:24, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/20 Devin Heitmueller dheitmuel...@kernellabs.com:
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 3:56 PM, HoP jpetr...@gmail.com
2011/6/21 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
Em 20-06-2011 18:31, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/20 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
Em 20-06-2011 17:24, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/20 Devin Heitmueller dheitmuel...@kernellabs.com:
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 3:56 PM, HoP jpetr...@gmail.com wrote:
Em 21-06-2011 08:04, Andreas Oberritter escreveu:
On 06/21/2011 03:35 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 20-06-2011 18:31, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/20 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
Em 20-06-2011 17:24, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/20 Devin Heitmueller dheitmuel...@kernellabs.com:
On Mon,
On 06/21/2011 02:05 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 21-06-2011 08:04, Andreas Oberritter escreveu:
On 06/21/2011 03:35 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 20-06-2011 18:31, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/20 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
Em 20-06-2011 17:24, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/20
2011/6/21 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
Em 21-06-2011 08:04, Andreas Oberritter escreveu:
On 06/21/2011 03:35 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 20-06-2011 18:31, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/20 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
Em 20-06-2011 17:24, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/20 Devin
I hope this driver will be included if it can be useful for some and if
it follows the GPL rules.
But really, +1 to Sebastien's comment - this project is a frustrating
one it seems. And at the point where I am, I would rather pay for a
working driver for a S2 + CI card, instead of trying to debug
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:04 AM, Andreas Oberritter o...@linuxtv.org wrote:
Mauro and Devin, I think you're missing the point. This is not about
creating drivers in userspace. This is not about open or closed source.
The vtuner interface, as implemented for the Dreambox, is used to
access
On 06/21/2011 03:44 PM, Devin Heitmueller wrote:
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:04 AM, Andreas Oberritter o...@linuxtv.org wrote:
Mauro and Devin, I think you're missing the point. This is not about
creating drivers in userspace. This is not about open or closed source.
The vtuner interface, as
2011/6/21 Andreas Oberritter o...@linuxtv.org:
Yes, and you did lie to your vendor, too, as you did not mention the
possibilities to create
I don't know if this is a language barrier issue, but calling someone
a liar (let alone in an open forum) is a pretty offensive thing to do.
In fact, such
Devin Heitmueller dheitmuel...@kernellabs.com writes:
The introduction of this patch makes it trivial for a third party to
provide closed-source userland support for tuners while reusing all
the existing GPL driver code that makes up the framework.
Wouldn't it be just as trivial to bundle the
Em 21-06-2011 10:44, Devin Heitmueller escreveu:
Mauro, ultimately it is your decision as the maintainer which drivers
get accepted in to the kernel. I can tell you though that this will
be a very bad thing for the driver ecosystem as a whole - it will
essentially make it trivial for vendors
Em 21-06-2011 11:56, Bjørn Mork escreveu:
Devin Heitmueller dheitmuel...@kernellabs.com writes:
The introduction of this patch makes it trivial for a third party to
provide closed-source userland support for tuners while reusing all
the existing GPL driver code that makes up the framework.
On 06/21/2011 04:35 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 21-06-2011 11:15, Andreas Oberritter escreveu:
On 06/21/2011 03:44 PM, Devin Heitmueller wrote:
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:04 AM, Andreas Oberritter o...@linuxtv.org
wrote:
Mauro and Devin, I think you're missing the point. This is not
Em 21-06-2011 12:09, Andreas Oberritter escreveu:
On 06/21/2011 04:35 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 21-06-2011 11:15, Andreas Oberritter escreveu:
On 06/21/2011 03:44 PM, Devin Heitmueller wrote:
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:04 AM, Andreas Oberritter o...@linuxtv.org
wrote:
Mauro and
2011/6/21 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
Em 21-06-2011 10:44, Devin Heitmueller escreveu:
Mauro, ultimately it is your decision as the maintainer which drivers
get accepted in to the kernel. I can tell you though that this will
be a very bad thing for the driver ecosystem as a
2011/6/21 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
Em 21-06-2011 12:09, Andreas Oberritter escreveu:
On 06/21/2011 04:35 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 21-06-2011 11:15, Andreas Oberritter escreveu:
On 06/21/2011 03:44 PM, Devin Heitmueller wrote:
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:04 AM,
My very little opinion is that waving GPL is way to the hell. Nobody told me
why similar technologies, in different kernel parts are acceptable,
but not here.
since a customer was trying to use this module the only feedback I can give
right now is that there are still some fundamental bugs
Hello,
Le dimanche 19 juin 2011 03:10:15 HoP, vous avez écrit :
get inspired by (unfortunately close-source) solution on stb
Dreambox 800 I have made my own implementation
of virtual DVB device, based on the same device API.
Some might argue that CUSE can already do this. Then again,
2011/6/20 Rémi Denis-Courmont r...@remlab.net:
Hello,
Le dimanche 19 juin 2011 03:10:15 HoP, vous avez écrit :
get inspired by (unfortunately close-source) solution on stb
Dreambox 800 I have made my own implementation
of virtual DVB device, based on the same device API.
Some might
Hi Devin.
2011/6/20 Devin Heitmueller dheitmuel...@kernellabs.com:
2011/6/20 Rémi Denis-Courmont r...@remlab.net:
Hello,
Le dimanche 19 juin 2011 03:10:15 HoP, vous avez écrit :
get inspired by (unfortunately close-source) solution on stb
Dreambox 800 I have made my own
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 2:17 PM, HoP jpetr...@gmail.com wrote:
Can you tell me when such disscussion was done? I did a big attempt
to check if my work is not reinventing wheels, but I found only some
very generic frontend template by Emard em...@softhome.net.
See the userspace tuner thread
-Original Message-
From: linux-media-ow...@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-media-
ow...@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Devin Heitmueller
Sent: lundi 20 juin 2011 20:25
To: HoP
Cc: Rémi Denis-Courmont; linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] vtunerc - virtual DVB device driver
2011/6/20 Sébastien RAILLARD (COEXSI) s...@coexsi.fr:
If I may put my two cents in this discussion regarding the closed source
code problem: maybe it could be great to have some closed source drivers
making some DVB hardware working better or even allowing more DVB hardware
working under
Hello again,
Le lundi 20 juin 2011 20:41:44 Devin Heitmueller, vous avez écrit :
Some might argue that CUSE can already do this. Then again, CUSE would
not be able to reuse the kernel DVB core infrastructure: everything
would need to be reinvented in userspace.
Generally
2011/6/20 Devin Heitmueller dheitmuel...@kernellabs.com:
2011/6/20 Sébastien RAILLARD (COEXSI) s...@coexsi.fr:
If I may put my two cents in this discussion regarding the closed source
code problem: maybe it could be great to have some closed source drivers
making some DVB hardware working
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 3:56 PM, HoP jpetr...@gmail.com wrote:
Do you think it is really serious enough reason to prevent of having
such virtualization driver in the kernel?
Let check my situation and tell me how I should continue (TBH, I already
thought that driver can be accepted, but my
2011/6/20 Devin Heitmueller dheitmuel...@kernellabs.com:
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 3:56 PM, HoP jpetr...@gmail.com wrote:
Do you think it is really serious enough reason to prevent of having
such virtualization driver in the kernel?
Let check my situation and tell me how I should continue (TBH,
Em 20-06-2011 17:24, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/20 Devin Heitmueller dheitmuel...@kernellabs.com:
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 3:56 PM, HoP jpetr...@gmail.com wrote:
Do you think it is really serious enough reason to prevent of having
such virtualization driver in the kernel?
Let check my situation and
2011/6/20 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
Em 20-06-2011 17:24, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/20 Devin Heitmueller dheitmuel...@kernellabs.com:
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 3:56 PM, HoP jpetr...@gmail.com wrote:
Do you think it is really serious enough reason to prevent of having
such
Devin Heitmueller dheitmuel...@kernellabs.com writes:
Nothing prevents a third-party from writing closed source drivers.
What we do *not* think is fair though is that those third parties
should be able to take advantage of all the GPL code that makes up the
DVB core, and the man-years spent
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Bjørn Mork bj...@mork.no wrote:
Devin Heitmueller dheitmuel...@kernellabs.com writes:
Nothing prevents a third-party from writing closed source drivers.
What we do *not* think is fair though is that those third parties
should be able to take advantage of all
Em 20-06-2011 18:31, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/20 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com:
Em 20-06-2011 17:24, HoP escreveu:
2011/6/20 Devin Heitmueller dheitmuel...@kernellabs.com:
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 3:56 PM, HoP jpetr...@gmail.com wrote:
Do you think it is really serious enough reason to
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