Re: Problem with Compro T200 (TDA1004x) and tuning Hi

2010-11-24 Thread hermann pitton
Hi Mike,

Am Dienstag, den 23.11.2010, 13:36 + schrieb Mike Martin: 
 On 22 November 2010 19:43, hermann pitton hermann-pit...@arcor.de wrote:
 
  Am Montag, den 22.11.2010, 15:08 + schrieb Mike Martin:
  On 22 November 2010 06:08, hermann pitton hermann-pit...@arcor.de wrote:
   Hi Mike,
  
   Am Sonntag, den 21.11.2010, 17:58 + schrieb Mike Martin:
   I am trying to tune channels with this card (which seems to be
   installed OK). However the output is
  
   Using DVB card Philips TDA10046H DVB-T
   tuning DVB-T (in United Kingdom) to 497833000 Hz
   polling
   Getting frontend event
   FE_STATUS:
   polling
   polling
   polling
  
  
   usually, in the UK, this can be caused by the missing ability to detect
   some frequencies offsets by the tda10046.
  
   Since you have already a minus of 167000Hz, typically for the UK, in
   your initial scan/tuning file, this most common problem likely can be
   excluded.
  
   So there are eventually three variants causing the problem on a first
   idea.
  
   1. They changed to 498 MHz. (or did change something else too, auto
 is your friend in the initial scan file then, except for the freq.)
  
 
  tried that no difference
   2. Your overall signal is not good enough.
  
  well up until friday I was using a HVR900, until it decided to refuse
  to believe it was plugged into a USB2 bus, and it was working fine
 
   3. You sit on some kernel with some bug.
 
  [...]
 
  Well, it is still very easy to install the latest remaining v4l-dvb from
  hg/mercurial for a quick test too.
 
  I don't have your hardware, but all my stuff is still fine there so far.
 
  AFAIR, your device, added by Hartmut, has some sort of TD1316 without an
  extra tda9887 IF demodulator for analog reception soldered outside of
  the tuner on the PCB.
 
  However, it is in a loop for eeprom auto detection on the side of the
  bridge.
 
  If that fails, and for my experience four of five attempts to fiddle
  with that later did fail, you don't have a chance for any DVB either.
 
  You might have to force the card number in such a case, but I'm still
  far away from what might be going on and your report is without any
  details so far.
 
  Cheers,
  Hermann
 
 
 
 One problem is the last time I used it - it worked. Although that was
 in a different location/PC

yup, I know too it did work for years.

 Current system P4 Fedora 14, stock kernel
 
 output scandvb
 
 scanning uk-Aberdare_auto
 using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
 initial transponder 474167000 3 9 9 6 2 4 4
 initial transponder 482167000 3 9 9 6 2 4 4
 initial transponder 497833000 3 9 9 6 2 4 4
 initial transponder 506167000 3 9 9 6 2 4 4
 initial transponder 521833000 0 2 9 3 0 0 0
 initial transponder 530167000 0 2 9 3 0 0 0
  tune to: 
  474167000:INVERSION_AUTO:BANDWIDTH_AUTO:FEC_AUTO:FEC_AUTO:QAM_AUTO:TRANSMISSION_MODE_AUTO:GUARD_INTERVAL_AUTO:HIERARCHY_AUTO
 WARNING:  tuning failed!!!

One thing I forgot about, you might have to force the bandwidth too.

If that still fails, you might be on the road for bisecting through the
previous patches.

I can't even tell, how reliable bisecting can work currently.

However, it might be worth to test with the remaining v4l-dvb mercurial
code as a start.

Cheers,
Hermann













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Re: Problem with Compro T200 (TDA1004x) and tuning Hi

2010-11-22 Thread Mike Martin
On 22 November 2010 06:08, hermann pitton hermann-pit...@arcor.de wrote:
 Hi Mike,

 Am Sonntag, den 21.11.2010, 17:58 + schrieb Mike Martin:
 I am trying to tune channels with this card (which seems to be
 installed OK). However the output is

 Using DVB card Philips TDA10046H DVB-T
 tuning DVB-T (in United Kingdom) to 497833000 Hz
 polling
 Getting frontend event
 FE_STATUS:
 polling
 polling
 polling


 usually, in the UK, this can be caused by the missing ability to detect
 some frequencies offsets by the tda10046.

 Since you have already a minus of 167000Hz, typically for the UK, in
 your initial scan/tuning file, this most common problem likely can be
 excluded.

 So there are eventually three variants causing the problem on a first
 idea.

 1. They changed to 498 MHz. (or did change something else too, auto
   is your friend in the initial scan file then, except for the freq.)


tried that no difference
 2. Your overall signal is not good enough.

well up until friday I was using a HVR900, until it decided to refuse
to believe it was plugged into a USB2 bus, and it was working fine

 3. You sit on some kernel with some bug.

 Case one and two are not hard to come through, for case three, the
 remedies are slipping away.

 You might have to install some latest .rc-git stuff, likely without
 support for your graphics card, coming up in vesa mode only, try to
 record something, and boot back into some kernel with support for
 displaying the record, we all have HDTV these days ...

 It might look like that, since the mobile devices and webcams took it
 all over here ;)

 Cheers,
 Hermann






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Re: Problem with Compro T200 (TDA1004x) and tuning Hi

2010-11-22 Thread hermann pitton

Am Montag, den 22.11.2010, 15:08 + schrieb Mike Martin:
 On 22 November 2010 06:08, hermann pitton hermann-pit...@arcor.de wrote:
  Hi Mike,
 
  Am Sonntag, den 21.11.2010, 17:58 + schrieb Mike Martin:
  I am trying to tune channels with this card (which seems to be
  installed OK). However the output is
 
  Using DVB card Philips TDA10046H DVB-T
  tuning DVB-T (in United Kingdom) to 497833000 Hz
  polling
  Getting frontend event
  FE_STATUS:
  polling
  polling
  polling
 
 
  usually, in the UK, this can be caused by the missing ability to detect
  some frequencies offsets by the tda10046.
 
  Since you have already a minus of 167000Hz, typically for the UK, in
  your initial scan/tuning file, this most common problem likely can be
  excluded.
 
  So there are eventually three variants causing the problem on a first
  idea.
 
  1. They changed to 498 MHz. (or did change something else too, auto
is your friend in the initial scan file then, except for the freq.)
 
 
 tried that no difference
  2. Your overall signal is not good enough.
 
 well up until friday I was using a HVR900, until it decided to refuse
 to believe it was plugged into a USB2 bus, and it was working fine
 
  3. You sit on some kernel with some bug.

[...]

Well, it is still very easy to install the latest remaining v4l-dvb from
hg/mercurial for a quick test too.

I don't have your hardware, but all my stuff is still fine there so far.

AFAIR, your device, added by Hartmut, has some sort of TD1316 without an
extra tda9887 IF demodulator for analog reception soldered outside of
the tuner on the PCB.

However, it is in a loop for eeprom auto detection on the side of the
bridge.

If that fails, and for my experience four of five attempts to fiddle
with that later did fail, you don't have a chance for any DVB either.

You might have to force the card number in such a case, but I'm still
far away from what might be going on and your report is without any
details so far.

Cheers,
Hermann




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Re: Problem with Compro T200 (TDA1004x) and tuning Hi

2010-11-21 Thread hermann pitton
Hi Mike,

Am Sonntag, den 21.11.2010, 17:58 + schrieb Mike Martin:
 I am trying to tune channels with this card (which seems to be
 installed OK). However the output is
 
 Using DVB card Philips TDA10046H DVB-T
 tuning DVB-T (in United Kingdom) to 497833000 Hz
 polling
 Getting frontend event
 FE_STATUS:
 polling
 polling
 polling
 

usually, in the UK, this can be caused by the missing ability to detect
some frequencies offsets by the tda10046.

Since you have already a minus of 167000Hz, typically for the UK, in
your initial scan/tuning file, this most common problem likely can be
excluded.

So there are eventually three variants causing the problem on a first
idea.

1. They changed to 498 MHz. (or did change something else too, auto
   is your friend in the initial scan file then, except for the freq.)

2. Your overall signal is not good enough.

3. You sit on some kernel with some bug.

Case one and two are not hard to come through, for case three, the
remedies are slipping away.

You might have to install some latest .rc-git stuff, likely without
support for your graphics card, coming up in vesa mode only, try to
record something, and boot back into some kernel with support for
displaying the record, we all have HDTV these days ...

It might look like that, since the mobile devices and webcams took it
all over here ;)

Cheers,
Hermann




 





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