Re: [Linux-PowerEdge] dsu performs a 'yum upgrade -y' when upgrading firmware

[Giulio]

On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 5:02 PM,   wrote:

> DSU only facilitates the system updates using the packages provided by
> various teams.

Can you explain this:

# strings /usr/sbin/dsu | grep "yum.*upgrade"
yum upgrade -y
#

what's the purpose of dsu using "yum upgrade -y"?


# rpm -q dell-system-update
dell-system-update-1.2-16.02.00.x86_64
#

Thanks

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Re: [Linux-PowerEdge] dsu performs a 'yum upgrade -y' when upgrading firmware

[Soorej_Ponnandi]

Dell - Internal Use - Confidential
Hi,

DSU only facilitates the system updates using the packages provided by various 
teams. We are currently facing issues with OMSA updates using yum and we are 
working with OMSA engg: team to make the experience better. This will be 
addressed soon.

Thanks,
Soorej


-Original Message-
From: linux-poweredge-bounces-Lists On Behalf Of Kilian Cavalotti
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 4:23 AM
To: Luke Pyzowski
Cc: linux-poweredge-Lists
Subject: Re: [Linux-PowerEdge] dsu performs a 'yum upgrade -y' when upgrading 
firmware

On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Luke Pyzowski wrote:
> Why does dsu perform a "yum upgrade -y" when installing firmware? (Run
> strings on the dsu binary to verify for yourself) This command will
> upgrade everything on a system - and often system administrators may
> put something into custom yum repos but not install it intentionally.
> This is extremely poor behavior on the part of the dsu tool and I was
> very surprised to see it. This option must be configurable by the
> administrator. Further, it should only upgrade dell related items -
> at the very most. You are specifying to update _all_ system software
> on the OS AND you pass the -y argument to it to approve the install
> without letting an administrator intervene. This behavior is
> completely unacceptable and needs to be addressed.

I absolutely agree. Reading this mailing list for the past few months has been 
an absolutely flooring experience.

At this point, it's time to realize that DSU is a failure: it is so riddled 
with design flaws that it would only make sense to start again from scratch. 
That's exactly what happened to the previous firmware-tools, which have been 
working fine for years, until somebody decided to scrap it for unknown reasons. 
DSU is not up to the mark, by far. Competitors have better tools now, and what 
once made Dell lead the field of linux management tools is no more.

If you guys want to retain that advantage, that made a lot of us prefer to deal 
with Dell hardware instead of others', this needs to be fixed.

Cheers,
--
Kilian

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Re: [Linux-PowerEdge] dsu performs a 'yum upgrade -y' when upgrading firmware

[Kilian Cavalotti]

On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Luke Pyzowski  wrote:
> Why does dsu perform a “yum upgrade -y” when installing firmware? (Run
> strings on the dsu binary to verify for yourself) This command will upgrade
> everything on a system - and often system administrators may put something
> into custom yum repos but not install it intentionally. This is extremely
> poor behavior on the part of the dsu tool and I was very surprised to see
> it. This option must be configurable by the administrator. Further, it
> should only upgrade dell related items -  at the very most. You are
> specifying to update _all_ system software on the OS AND you pass the -y
> argument to it to approve the install without letting an administrator
> intervene. This behavior is completely unacceptable and needs to be
> addressed.

I absolutely agree. Reading this mailing list for the past few months
has been an absolutely flooring experience.

At this point, it's time to realize that DSU is a failure: it is so
riddled with design flaws that it would only make sense to start again
from scratch. That's exactly what happened to the previous
firmware-tools, which have been working fine for years, until somebody
decided to scrap it for unknown reasons. DSU is not up to the mark, by
far. Competitors have better tools now, and what once made Dell lead
the field of linux management tools is no more.

If you guys want to retain that advantage, that made a lot of us
prefer to deal with Dell hardware instead of others', this needs to be
fixed.

Cheers,
-- 
Kilian

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