Re: [OT] best tape backup system?

2005-02-26 Thread berk walker
And worse yet, you have to run them to the end and then rewind them if you are going to keep the data for long [the magnetic fields affect layers near them]. An array of RAID1 disks, which sleep deeply [off] between uses would probably be affordable, and last MUCH longer. Just my 2 cents worth-

Re: [OT] best tape backup system?

2005-02-26 Thread Mark Hahn
> Not sure if it is important to many people, but tapes take a lot less > electricity than online disks. do you really care? an active disk is about 15W, inactive 5W and asleep nearly zero. even assuming idle-but-spinning, I make that as about $2/year. tapes are wonderful in every way except o

RE: [OT] best tape backup system?

2005-02-23 Thread Guy
ECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Tokarev Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:29 PM To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [OT] best tape backup system? Guy wrote: > I know a thing or 2 about SCSI. I know I had it correct. 1 config was all > wide LVD (2940U2W). My

Re: [OT] best tape backup system?

2005-02-23 Thread Michael Tokarev
Guy wrote: I know a thing or 2 about SCSI. I know I had it correct. 1 config was all wide LVD (2940U2W). My card has a LVD and a SE port on the same logical SCSI bus. I was surprized once when I noticied such "logical SCSI bus" really isn't "logical" per se. I mean, if I plug ANY device into th

RE: [OT] best tape backup system?

2005-02-22 Thread Guy
: [OT] best tape backup system? Guy wrote: > I have NOT been able to share a SCSI cable/card with disks and a tape drive. > Tried for days. I would get disk errors, or timeouts. I corrected the > problem by putting the tape drive on a dedicated SCSI bus/card. I don't > recall t

Re: [OT] best tape backup system?

2005-02-22 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Jon Lewis wrote: > I should clarify, that's 80GB per tape...so 800GB native assumes you have > 10 tapes in the unit. yup...seen those puppies too ... too much headache for me > > i keep wondering why people pay $150K for 1TB brandname tape subsystems .. > > I would

Re: [OT] best tape backup system?

2005-02-22 Thread David Dougall
Not sure if it is important to many people, but tapes take a lot less electricity than online disks. --David Dougall On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Jon Lewis wrote: > On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Alvin Oga wrote: > > > > Better depends on what you want/need/can afford. Last time I was tape > > > shopping, I thou

Re: [OT] best tape backup system?

2005-02-22 Thread Jon Lewis
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Alvin Oga wrote: > > Better depends on what you want/need/can afford. Last time I was tape > > shopping, I thought this would be a good compromise on the need/can > > afford: > > Exabyte VXA-2 Packetloader 1x10 > > > > Native tape capacity is 800gb. The only downside is, no

Re: [OT] best tape backup system?

2005-02-22 Thread Alvin Oga
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Jon Lewis wrote: > On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Louis-David Mitterrand wrote: > > > I am considering getting a Sony SAIT 3 with 500G/1TB tapes, which seems > > like a nice solution for backuping a whole server on a single tape. > > > > Has anyone used that hardware and can comment

Re: [OT] best tape backup system?

2005-02-22 Thread Jon Lewis
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Louis-David Mitterrand wrote: > I am considering getting a Sony SAIT 3 with 500G/1TB tapes, which seems > like a nice solution for backuping a whole server on a single tape. > > Has anyone used that hardware and can comment on its performance, > linux-compatibility or otherwis

Re: [OT] best tape backup system?

2005-02-22 Thread Michael Tokarev
Guy wrote: I have NOT been able to share a SCSI cable/card with disks and a tape drive. Tried for days. I would get disk errors, or timeouts. I corrected the problem by putting the tape drive on a dedicated SCSI bus/card. I don't recall the details of the failures, since it has been well over a

RE: [OT] best tape backup system?

2005-02-22 Thread Guy
t: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 12:40 PM To: Guy Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org Subject: RE: [OT] best tape backup system? On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Guy wrote: > I have NOT been able to share a SCSI cable/card with disks and a tape > drive. Tried for days. I would get disk errors, or timeouts. I > co

RE: [OT] best tape backup system?

2005-02-22 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Guy wrote: > I have NOT been able to share a SCSI cable/card with disks and a tape > drive. Tried for days. I would get disk errors, or timeouts. I > corrected the problem by putting the tape drive on a dedicated SCSI > bus/card. I don't recall the details of the failures,

RE: [OT] best tape backup system?

2005-02-22 Thread Guy
best tape backup system? On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Louis-David Mitterrand wrote: > I am considering getting a Sony SAIT 3 with 500G/1TB tapes, which seems > like a nice solution for backuping a whole server on a single tape. I've been using DLT tapes for many years now, prior to that DAT ta

Re: [OT] best tape backup system?

2005-02-22 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Louis-David Mitterrand wrote: > I am considering getting a Sony SAIT 3 with 500G/1TB tapes, which seems > like a nice solution for backuping a whole server on a single tape. I've been using DLT tapes for many years now, prior to that DAT tapes and Exabytes before that... Capa

Re: [OT] best tape backup system?

2005-02-22 Thread Lajber Zoltan
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Louis-David Mitterrand wrote: > Is there a better solution out there? We using an "59P6744 200/400GB LTO Full-High Tape Drive" with great resuslt. It made a full 180G backup within 100 minutes. We are using the "tob" script for full and differential backups. Bye, -=Lajbi=---

[OT] best tape backup system?

2005-02-22 Thread Louis-David Mitterrand
Hello and sorry for the OT post, but I felt linux raid administrators can be also very knowledgable about best-of-breed tape backup systems for their linux servers. I admin serveral linux servers with software root raid1/5 and am very happy about their performance and reliability. Up to now our ba