Re: raid5 software vs hardware: parity calculations?

2007-01-15 Thread Michael Tokarev
dean gaudet wrote: [] if this is for a database or fs requiring lots of small writes then raid5/6 are generally a mistake... raid10 is the only way to get performance. (hw raid5/6 with nvram support can help a bit in this area, but you just can't beat raid10 if you need lots of writes/s.)

Re: raid5 software vs hardware: parity calculations?

2007-01-15 Thread Bill Davidsen
Robin Bowes wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: There have been several recent threads on the list regarding software RAID-5 performance. The reference might be updated to reflect the poor write performance of RAID-5 until/unless significant tuning is done. Read that as tuning obscure parameters and

Re: raid5 software vs hardware: parity calculations?

2007-01-15 Thread Robin Bowes
Bill Davidsen wrote: Robin Bowes wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: There have been several recent threads on the list regarding software RAID-5 performance. The reference might be updated to reflect the poor write performance of RAID-5 until/unless significant tuning is done. Read that as

Re: raid5 software vs hardware: parity calculations?

2007-01-15 Thread Bill Davidsen
Robin Bowes wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Robin Bowes wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: There have been several recent threads on the list regarding software RAID-5 performance. The reference might be updated to reflect the poor write performance of RAID-5 until/unless significant

Re: raid5 software vs hardware: parity calculations?

2007-01-15 Thread dean gaudet
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007, Robin Bowes wrote: I'm running RAID6 instead of RAID5+1 - I've had a couple of instances where a drive has failed in a RAID5+1 array and a second has failed during the rebuild after the hot-spare had kicked in. if the failures were read errors without losing the entire

Re: raid5 software vs hardware: parity calculations?

2007-01-15 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007, dean gaudet wrote: you can also run monthly checks... echo check /sys/block/mdX/md/sync_action it'll read the entire array (parity included) and correct read errors as they're discovered. A-Ha ... I've not been keeping up with the list for a bit - what's the minimum

Re: raid5 software vs hardware: parity calculations?

2007-01-15 Thread berk walker
dean gaudet wrote: On Mon, 15 Jan 2007, Robin Bowes wrote: I'm running RAID6 instead of RAID5+1 - I've had a couple of instances where a drive has failed in a RAID5+1 array and a second has failed during the rebuild after the hot-spare had kicked in. if the failures were read errors

Re: raid5 software vs hardware: parity calculations?

2007-01-15 Thread dean gaudet
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007, berk walker wrote: dean gaudet wrote: echo check /sys/block/mdX/md/sync_action it'll read the entire array (parity included) and correct read errors as they're discovered. Could I get a pointer as to how I can do this check in my FC5 [BLAG] system? I can find

Re: raid5 software vs hardware: parity calculations?

2007-01-15 Thread Mr. James W. Laferriere
Hello Dean , On Mon, 15 Jan 2007, dean gaudet wrote: ...snip... it should just be: echo check /sys/block/mdX/md/sync_action if you don't have a /sys/block/mdX/md/sync_action file then your kernel is too old... or you don't have /sys mounted... (or you didn't replace X with the raid

Re: raid5 software vs hardware: parity calculations?

2007-01-15 Thread dean gaudet
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007, Mr. James W. Laferriere wrote: Hello Dean , On Mon, 15 Jan 2007, dean gaudet wrote: ...snip... it should just be: echo check /sys/block/mdX/md/sync_action if you don't have a /sys/block/mdX/md/sync_action file then your kernel is too old... or you

Re: raid5 software vs hardware: parity calculations?

2007-01-13 Thread Dan Williams
On 1/12/07, James Ralston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007-01-12 at 09:39-08 dean gaudet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, James Ralston wrote: I'm having a discussion with a coworker concerning the cost of md's raid5 implementation versus hardware raid5 implementations.

Re: raid5 software vs hardware: parity calculations?

2007-01-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
Dan Williams wrote: On 1/12/07, James Ralston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007-01-12 at 09:39-08 dean gaudet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, James Ralston wrote: I'm having a discussion with a coworker concerning the cost of md's raid5 implementation versus hardware raid5

Re: raid5 software vs hardware: parity calculations?

2007-01-13 Thread Robin Bowes
Bill Davidsen wrote: There have been several recent threads on the list regarding software RAID-5 performance. The reference might be updated to reflect the poor write performance of RAID-5 until/unless significant tuning is done. Read that as tuning obscure parameters and throwing a lot of

Re: raid5 software vs hardware: parity calculations?

2007-01-13 Thread dean gaudet
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, Robin Bowes wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: There have been several recent threads on the list regarding software RAID-5 performance. The reference might be updated to reflect the poor write performance of RAID-5 until/unless significant tuning is done. Read that as

Re: raid5 software vs hardware: parity calculations?

2007-01-12 Thread dean gaudet
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, James Ralston wrote: I'm having a discussion with a coworker concerning the cost of md's raid5 implementation versus hardware raid5 implementations. Specifically, he states: The performance [of raid5 in hardware] is so much better with the write-back caching on the

Re: raid5 software vs hardware: parity calculations?

2007-01-12 Thread James Ralston
On 2007-01-12 at 09:39-08 dean gaudet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, James Ralston wrote: I'm having a discussion with a coworker concerning the cost of md's raid5 implementation versus hardware raid5 implementations. Specifically, he states: The performance [of