Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-10 Thread Jasper Bryant-Greene
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 04:55:05PM +1200, Daniel Hill wrote: I've been to the telecom shop in the palms and asked if it was possible to change a vodafone phone to their network and the guy said not yetand that was on the 6th of july Telecom's GSM network is still under development, the

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-10 Thread Daniel Hill
This is was intended to state that you should be able to use the Neo FreeRunner on the telecom network On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 04:55:05PM +1200, Daniel Hill wrote: I've been to the telecom shop in the palms and asked if it was possible to change a vodafone phone to their network and the

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-10 Thread Jasper Bryant-Greene
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 07:21:10PM +1200, Daniel Hill wrote: This is was intended to state that you should be able to use the Neo FreeRunner on the telecom network Not yet, but once Telecom's GSM network is live, the GSM 850 version will work on the Telecom network. but you can buy global

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-10 Thread Don Gould
Is the data HDPA (or what ever the tla is)? My mobile is 3G but will only do GPRS speeds. Can the wifi in the phone be configured as an AP? Cheers Don Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 07:21:10PM +1200, Daniel Hill wrote: This is was intended to state that you should be

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-10 Thread Jasper Bryant-Greene
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 08:32:46PM +1200, Don Gould wrote: Is the data HDPA (or what ever the tla is)? My mobile is 3G but will only do GPRS speeds. No, the FreeRunner is not a 3G phone and thus does not support HSDPA or HSUPA. I understand OpenMoko have tentative plans to do a 3G version for

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-09 Thread Daniel Hill
I've been to the telecom shop in the palms and asked if it was possible to change a vodafone phone to their network and the guy said not yetand that was on the 6th of july

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread Andrew Sands
On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:00:33 John Carter wrote: Question 3 to the Group: I'm planning on ordering one for myself, and would be prepared to go for a 10 pack if enough others are interested. Anybody else interested? John, If we can confirm the ability for the device to operate on local

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread Jasper Bryant-Greene
The Neo FreeRunner is a standard GSM 900/1800/1900 unit and will operate on the NZ Vodafone network. Our company is currently in the process of becoming an official distributor and will likely be offering them in NZ very soon. More details on price etc shortly... -Jasper On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread Francis White
On 8/07/2008, at 2:24 PM, Jim Cheetham wrote: On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Makes an iPhone at $199 seem cheap LOL (albeit on a 24 month contract, not sure how much that will cost) The monthly contract for the $199 8GB iPhone is $250 with 1GB data. Over

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread Douglas Royds
Francis White wrote: On 8/07/2008, at 2:24 PM, Jim Cheetham wrote: On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Makes an iPhone at $199 seem cheap LOL (albeit on a 24 month contract, not sure how much that will cost) The monthly contract for

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread Douglas Royds
Douglas Royds wrote: Francis White wrote: On 8/07/2008, at 2:24 PM, Jim Cheetham wrote: On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Makes an iPhone at $199 seem cheap LOL (albeit on a 24 month contract, not sure how much that will cost) The

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread John Carter
On the surface, given that OpenMoko doesn't have the 900 in stock at the moment, it would appear best to wait for Jasper's offering. However, maybe a decade or two in the computer industry has scarred me and made me terribly cynical... I have often found this Distributor term has two very

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:06:28 +1200 (NZST) John Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the surface, given that OpenMoko doesn't have the 900 in stock at the moment, it would appear best to wait for Jasper's offering. However, maybe a decade or two in the computer industry has scarred me and made

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread Jasper Bryant-Greene
Hi John We plan to bring in stock in (some) bulk, with the intention being that orders will be fulfilled from stock. We will only have a web presence, as IMHO a physical shop will only drive up the price. However, there's no reason Christchurch dwellers can't pick up from us and save them being

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread Francis White
On 9/07/2008, at 1:57 PM, Douglas Royds wrote: Douglas Royds wrote: Francis White wrote: On 8/07/2008, at 2:24 PM, Jim Cheetham wrote: On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Makes an iPhone at $199 seem cheap LOL (albeit on a 24 month

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread Francis White
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Mobile-phones/Vodafone-network/Other/ auction-164652052.htm Found that on trademe. Thought it might be interesting for someone. Francis

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Francis White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Mobile-phones/Vodafone-network/Other/auction-164652052.htm Found that on trademe. Thought it might be interesting for someone. Francis Withdrawn by Admin - what was it?

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread Brenda Wallace
Withdrawn by the administrator wtf? On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:12:12 Francis White wrote: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Mobile-phones/Vodafone-network/Other/ auction-164652052.htm Found that on trademe. Thought it might be interesting for someone. Francis

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread Jim Cheetham
I presume that TradeMe don't like being used to organise off-site selling. i.e. they wouldn't get a cut of the final sale price of the phone, therefore the listing violated their Terms Conditions. I'd expect that the account that listed it was disabled now, too. -jim On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread Francis White
It was a group of people to buy a Freerunner, just gathering interest, because the price was $0.50 buy now. On 9/07/2008, at 4:27 PM, Brenda Wallace wrote: Withdrawn by the administrator wtf? On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:12:12 Francis White wrote:

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread Brett Davidson
Yes - most likely. Completely OT now but that site is less useful to me by the day. I want to sell my old leather lounge suite but I'm not allowed to advertise contact details so people can come and look at it. Who would buy a lounge suite without physically looking at it? Jim Cheetham

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread John Carter
Hokay, sounds good, making the right sort of noises. Especially given the out of stock nature of the 900, I'm prepared to wait for you to bring them in. Any idea when that will be? When you do, you might want to arrange with me to have a showtell day at Tait Electronics. Apart from a personal

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-07 Thread David Lowe
I'm tempted... but I don't know the answers to your questions John. I presume you just slot in your SIM card and away it goes? If you can figure out whether it will just work, add me to your list. - David On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 11:00 AM, John Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Open Source /

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-07 Thread Neil Stockbridge
I'm currently using pre-pay with Vodafone. Do you know off-hand if it will just work with my existing SIM? If so then I'm definitely in. we've got to support these guys otherwise open hardware as a concept won't work. Having a hackable phone is going to be so cool. With the GPS, there's no

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-07 Thread david merriman
I contacted a friend who works for Telecom, and she thinks it will work on their network (as far as she can tell). Telecom's 850MHz network is already up and running in most main centers, so the 850 version should work right now. I'm seriously tempted to order one. If only it had a camera

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-07 Thread chris
I am interested, but only if it works in NZ Cheers Chris Thomas On Tue, 2008-07-08 at 11:00 +1200, John Carter wrote: The Open Source / Embedded Linux Open / Hackable Cellphone is on sale now! I note their 900/1800/1900 Mhz tri band is sold out, but the 850/1800/1900 is still available for

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-07 Thread Don Gould
I'm with Neil on this one... now just tell me how I get the budget past SWMBO?!?! Cheers Don Neil Stockbridge wrote: If so then I'm definitely in. we've got to support these guys otherwise open hardware as a concept won't work.

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-07 Thread David Lowe
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Don Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now just tell me how I get the budget past SWMBO?!?! Just put it through the accounting system as a 'Mobile Open Band Internet Linux Extension' and she wont even question it. The acronym will do. We will say nothing :-)

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-07 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Don Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm with Neil on this one... now just tell me how I get the budget past SWMBO?!?! Thrift or embezzlement as the case may be. :-) -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-07 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:00:33 +1200 (NZST) John Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question 1 to the Group: Do we need to have the 900Mhz version here or is the 850 preferable because in the longer term it will allow us to switch to Telecom if we wish? You need 9/18 for 'proper' ( as in I'm not

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-07 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Steve Holdoway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:00:33 +1200 (NZST) John Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question 1 to the Group: Do we need to have the 900Mhz version here or is the 850 preferable because in the longer term it will allow us to

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-07 Thread Douglas Royds
Nick Rout wrote: On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Steve Holdoway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:00:33 +1200 (NZST) John Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question 1 to the Group: Do we need to have the 900Mhz version here or is the 850 preferable because in the longer

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-07 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Makes an iPhone at $199 seem cheap LOL (albeit on a 24 month contract, not sure how much that will cost) The monthly contract for the $199 8GB iPhone is $250 with 1GB data. Over the 24 month term, that's $6000 + $199 + voice

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-07 Thread Kerry
On Tue, 2008-07-08 at 13:43 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Steve Holdoway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:00:33 +1200 (NZST) John Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question 1 to the Group: Do we need to have the 900Mhz version here or is the 850