Re: Oops

2003-07-19 Thread Myles Green
On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 23:47, koko wrote: Keith aka Skippy aka Gandalf (has DHS checked all these out yet?) , you are my hero. Thank you. All is well now, and my kin will be able to access XP to their hearts content, not knowing the near miss with my continued experimentation. Ah hell,

Re: Shane B. did it !!

2003-07-19 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 13:28, Keith Antoine wrote: On Friday 18 July 2003 12:31 pm, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: Damn. I just hope that when I am 70+ (which involves a whole additional set of assumptions) I even know what the Linux of the time is. Keith, just stay in contact. If nothing else,

Re: Oops

2003-07-19 Thread Keith Antoine
On Saturday 19 July 2003 12:32 am, koko wrote: Sorry if it seems I'm asking to be spoonfed, but I am fearful of hosing the boot process altogether. Here are the relevant lines of'menu.lst': #boot=/dev/hda default=0 timeout=10 splashimage= (hd1,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz title Red Hat Linux

Re: Redhat releases unofficial 2.60-test kernel RPMs

2003-07-19 Thread Keith Antoine
On Saturday 19 July 2003 01:03 am, Net Llama! wrote: On 07/19/03 11:22, Keith Antoine wrote: On Friday 18 July 2003 07:17 pm, Net Llama! wrote: These are for RH9 Rawhide: http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.5/RPMS.kernel/ I've not tested them, but plan to. Wonder whether they will work

Re: Oops

2003-07-19 Thread Keith Antoine
On Saturday 19 July 2003 01:47 am, koko wrote: Keith aka Skippy aka Gandalf (has DHS checked all these out yet?) , you are my hero. Thank you. All is well now, and my kin will be able to access XP to their hearts content, not knowing the near miss with my continued experimentation. Ah

Re: Shane B. did it !!

2003-07-19 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Hey! I resemble that remark! On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 08:24:09 -0400 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But they seem to make a hell of a mess/trouble trying these days. -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eisgr.com/ Enterprise Information Systems

Re: small network problem

2003-07-19 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Hey Keith- You might check /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward and make sure it is set to 1 (cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward). Sometimes automated (anti)intelligent agents like to fiddle with system parameters. If no forward, no workie :) This happened to me a while back where the firewall script

Re: small network problem

2003-07-19 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Is DNS working on the Linux box? (if that's where you are running it from) On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 07:37:29 -0400 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still forgot to answer you; it is the XP only box downstairs which loses the connection, i.e cannot get a browser to browse. Am unsure if we

Re: Oops

2003-07-19 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Add the following entry to grub: title WindXP root (hd0,0) chainloader +1 You can also change which is the default by changing the line default # Remember that it starts at 0, like all good things :) and pics the appropriate title entry. On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 20:37:53 -0700 Shawn

Re: DHS and M$

2003-07-19 Thread David A. Bandel
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 21:35:53 -0400 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are forgetting the ease of use question. Let's see. Oh, yeah, OpenOffice is incredibly hard to use because: 1. it runs on UNIX (thought it ran on Windoze too) 2. morons can't figure out how to start it because the

Re: [OT] *Another* Kurt Wall?

2003-07-19 Thread Tim Wunder
On Saturday 19 July 2003 1:41 am, someone claiming to be Net Llama! wrote: On 07/18/03 22:12, Kurt Wall wrote: ohmygod, a little bit of ego surfing reveals that there's another Kurt Wall out there. We're all _doomed_... http://www.oads.ca/people.asp the scarier thing is that he kinda

Re: Oops

2003-07-19 Thread Shawn Tayler
I wouldn't be that worried. Just backup menu.lst and you'll be fine. May I suggest you look at http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ I think many of your questions will be answered. Shawn On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:32:10 -0400 koko [EMAIL PROTECTED] professed: Sorry if it seems I'm asking to be

Re: DHS and M$

2003-07-19 Thread Joel Hammer
On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 06:57:17AM -0500, David A. Bandel wrote: did I miss anything? Yes, you did. The IS professionals they are going to hire don't know squat about anything but windows. Thus, they will need to buy MS boxes with everything pretty much set up for them. Besides, Homeland

Re: Redhat releases unofficial 2.60-test kernel RPMs

2003-07-19 Thread Net Llama!
On 07/19/03 15:57, Keith Antoine wrote: On Saturday 19 July 2003 01:03 am, Net Llama! wrote: On 07/19/03 11:22, Keith Antoine wrote: On Friday 18 July 2003 07:17 pm, Net Llama! wrote: These are for RH9 Rawhide: http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.5/RPMS.kernel/ I've not tested them, but plan

Re: Redhat releases unofficial 2.60-test kernel RPMs

2003-07-19 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Saturday 19 July 2003 18:57 pm, Keith Antoine wrote: On Saturday 19 July 2003 01:03 am, Net Llama! wrote: On 07/19/03 11:22, Keith Antoine wrote: On Friday 18 July 2003 07:17 pm, Net Llama! wrote: These are for RH9 Rawhide: http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.5/RPMS.kernel/ I've

OT History of msdos and M$ threads

2003-07-19 Thread Harry Giles
A couple of months ago, a lot of talk about how Billy boy acquired dos, and built his company were discussed here, but I can't find the thead in the archives, as I don't remember the sublect title. I am trying to get information to a person who wrote a rather uninformed article on MS and would

Re: [OT] *Another* Kurt Wall?

2003-07-19 Thread Collins Richey
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 01:12:40 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ohmygod, a little bit of ego surfing reveals that there's another Kurt Wall out there. We're all _doomed_... http://www.oads.ca/people.asp Nah, we're still safe. Now if you find a Collins clone, then we're all in

Re: OT History of msdos and M$ threads

2003-07-19 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Harry Giles: A couple of months ago, a lot of talk about how Billy boy acquired dos, and built his company were discussed here, but I can't find the thead in the archives, as I don't remember the sublect title. I am trying to get information to a person who wrote a rather uninformed

Re: DHS and M$

2003-07-19 Thread Bill Campbell
On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 09:23:03AM -0400, Joel Hammer wrote: On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 06:57:17AM -0500, David A. Bandel wrote: did I miss anything? Yes, you did. The IS professionals they are going to hire don't know squat about anything but windows. Thus, they will need to buy MS boxes with

Latest From SCO

2003-07-19 Thread Kurt Wall
http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/07/18/HNscolicense_1.html -- You will lose your present job and have to become a door to door mayonnaise salesman. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -

Re: Latest From SCO

2003-07-19 Thread ronnie gauthier
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:15:25 -0400 - Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the following Re: Latest From SCO License? I dont need no fscking license! I have two boxes at home that say Caldera on them and contain what I now consider to be a license to run as many copies of any linux I want. If they

Re: OT History of msdos and M$ threads

2003-07-19 Thread Harry Giles
On Sat July 19 2003 12:19 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: Quoth Harry Giles: A couple of months ago, a lot of talk about how Billy boy acquired dos, and built his company were discussed here, but I can't find the thead in the archives, as I don't remember the sublect title. I am trying to get

Re: Latest From SCO

2003-07-19 Thread Bill Campbell
On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 01:50:58PM -0500, ronnie gauthier wrote: On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:15:25 -0400 - Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the following Re: Latest From SCO License? I dont need no fscking license! I have two boxes at home that say Caldera on them and contain what I now consider to

Re: Latest From SCO

2003-07-19 Thread Jerry McBride
That's just what MicroSoft wants you to do... What we're seeing is the MicroSoft touch of death (tm) reaching us... through SCO. It's really a shame too. On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 13:50:58 -0500 ronnie gauthier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:15:25 -0400 - Kurt Wall [EMAIL

Re: need a brain-dump of snort and acid..

2003-07-19 Thread Douglas J Hunley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Keith Morse shocked and awed us all by speaking: This is one I've been using of late. http://www.internetsecurityguru.com/documents/snort_acid_rh9.pdf danke - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778

Re: Latest From SCO

2003-07-19 Thread Ian Stephen
On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 13:27, Jerry McBride wrote: That's just what MicroSoft wants you to do... What we're seeing is the MicroSoft touch of death (tm) reaching us... through SCO. It's really a shame too. When I read that SCO reps were in Japan recently I wondered why. Then a week or so later

No more retail boxes for RedHat and other changes

2003-07-19 Thread Harry Giles
http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=364 Harry G ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

Re: Shane B. did it !!

2003-07-19 Thread Keith Antoine
On Saturday 19 July 2003 03:32 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: It does always seem to me that the things I want to do in Linux are just about to work, but not when I start. Cameras work fine for me. Now it is Hauppauge TV cards and their chip-o-the-month approach to cards... I look forward to

Re: No more retail boxes for RedHat and other changes

2003-07-19 Thread Michael Hipp
Harry Giles wrote: http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=364 No more retail boxes for RedHat and other changes Would someone re-assure me this is a good thing. Seems like this is how Caldera started into their death spiral. Michael

Re: No more retail boxes for RedHat and other changes

2003-07-19 Thread Net Llama!
On 07/19/03 15:26, Michael Hipp wrote: Harry Giles wrote: http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=364 No more retail boxes for RedHat and other changes Would someone re-assure me this is a good thing. Seems like this is how Caldera started into their death spiral.

network to xp to xp

2003-07-19 Thread Keith Antoine
I am having to do some many hours of recoding vhs tapes to HD. Because it is far easier to use something like Power Director I am in XP for long times. The trouble is that daughter wants to get online, no real suprise, and I cannot shutdown and go to linux at the drop of a hat. I had it working

Re: No more retail boxes for RedHat and other changes

2003-07-19 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Michael Hipp: Harry Giles wrote: http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=364 No more retail boxes for RedHat and other changes Would someone re-assure me this is a good thing. Seems like this is how Caldera started into their death spiral. The article has

Re: No more retail boxes for RedHat and other changes

2003-07-19 Thread Bill Campbell
On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 05:22:16PM -0400, Harry Giles wrote: http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=364 Good. That leaves more room for SuSE :-). Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820;

XP to XP

2003-07-19 Thread Keith Antoine
Just checked the downstairs machine and that can piong this upstairs machine under XP on both, but its not seeing the net. It appears not to be able to resolve the addresses. I do not have any DNS settings downstairs as I do not have any stable IP I can use. Skippy

DSL Gotcha

2003-07-19 Thread Kurt Wall
Hey, list, I learned something interesting about DSL today. I was having lots or intermittency problems with my DSL connection. A call to tech support later, and it was fixed. Immediately. The solution: make the RJ11 cable from the wall jack to the modem as short as possible. The Ethernet cable

Re: DSL Gotcha

2003-07-19 Thread Net Llama!
On 07/19/03 17:43, Kurt Wall wrote: Hey, list, I learned something interesting about DSL today. I was having lots or intermittency problems with my DSL connection. A call to tech support later, and it was fixed. Immediately. The solution: make the RJ11 cable from the wall jack to the modem as

Re: XP to XP

2003-07-19 Thread Net Llama!
On 07/19/03 17:19, Keith Antoine wrote: Just checked the downstairs machine and that can piong this upstairs machine under XP on both, but its not seeing the net. It appears not to be able to resolve the addresses. I do not have any DNS settings downstairs as I do not have any stable IP I can

Re: DSL Gotcha

2003-07-19 Thread Michael Hipp
Kurt Wall wrote: Hey, list, I learned something interesting about DSL today. I was having lots or intermittency problems with my DSL connection. A call to tech support later, and it was fixed. Immediately. The solution: make the RJ11 cable from the wall jack to the modem as short as possible.

Re: DSL Gotcha

2003-07-19 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Net Llama!: On 07/19/03 17:43, Kurt Wall wrote: Hey, list, I learned something interesting about DSL today. I was having lots or intermittency problems with my DSL connection. A call to tech support later, and it was fixed. Immediately. The solution: make the RJ11 cable from the

Re: network to xp to xp

2003-07-19 Thread tom marinis
Greets Keith, --- Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am having to do some many hours of recoding vhs tapes to HD. Because it is far easier to use something like Power Director I am in XP for long times. The trouble is that daughter wants to get online, no real suprise, and I

Re: small network problem

2003-07-19 Thread Keith Antoine
On Saturday 19 July 2003 07:51 am, Matthew Carpenter wrote: Is DNS working on the Linux box? (if that's where you are running it from) No AFAIK, its just setup by mandarke to share the net. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia::

Re: small network problem

2003-07-19 Thread Keith Antoine
On Saturday 19 July 2003 07:50 am, Matthew Carpenter wrote: Hey Keith- You might check /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward and make sure it is set to 1 (cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward). Sometimes automated (anti)intelligent agents like to fiddle with system parameters. If no forward, no

Re: DHS and M$

2003-07-19 Thread tom marinis
--- Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 06:57:17AM -0500, David A. Bandel wrote: did I miss anything? Yes, you did. The IS professionals they are going to hire don't know squat about anything but windows. Thus, they will need to buy MS boxes with everything

Re: small network problem

2003-07-19 Thread tom marinis
--- Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 19 July 2003 07:51 am, Matthew Carpenter wrote: Is DNS working on the Linux box? (if that's where you are running it from) No AFAIK, its just setup by mandarke to share the net. Whoa, wait a minute...what about your /etc/hosts.allow

Re: Latest From SCO

2003-07-19 Thread tom marinis
--- Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/07/18/HNscolicense_1.html Gee, too bad I use Slackware now :) Besides, the only thing that SCO's lawyer could say Monday that could frighten me is to say that Linus Torvalds now works for SCO. E.

Re: DSL Gotcha

2003-07-19 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Michael Hipp: Kurt Wall wrote: Hey, list, I learned something interesting about DSL today. I was having lots or intermittency problems with my DSL connection. A call to tech support later, and it was fixed. Immediately. The solution: make the RJ11 cable from the wall jack to the

Re: Shane B. did it !!

2003-07-19 Thread Yu Meng Chong
Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 01:56, Keith Antoine wrote: I also forget simple Cline commands. At just over 40, my most used command (after vi and make) is man. Hell, at 34, 'man' is my most used command ! And I'm half your age, Keith ! Regards, pascal chong

Re: Shane B. did it !!

2003-07-19 Thread Yu Meng Chong
Tony Alfrey wrote: On Thursday 17 July 2003 07:48 am, Federico Voges wrote: snip Glad to read you again. You had more that one worried. Do that again, and you'll probably get not a phone call but someone knocking on your door :) Ah, a good idea! I vote that we all go on vacation and stay