I Just got this on hotmail I wonder if it will break gaim/amsn etc

2003-08-19 Thread James McDonald
ATTENTION: IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED FOR MSN AND WINDOWS MESSENGER USERS. You are receiving this e-mail because you are a MSN Messenger or Windows Messenger Service user. As part of Microsoft's Trustworthy Computing initiative, Microsoft is updating the .NET Messenger Service and providing you

Re: acixxx problem compiling new kernel 2.4.20

2003-08-19 Thread Alma J Wetzker
Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon, 18 Aug 2003 22:18:19 -0400 This is the WalMart special. There may be no scsi devices but there are scsi drivers loaded: lsmod | grep scsi: ide-scsi7696 1 scsi_mod 53420 5 [sr_mod ide-scsi usb-storage sd_mod] ide-mod

Re: acixxx problem compiling new kernel 2.4.20

2003-08-19 Thread Terence McCarthy
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 09:45:45 -0500 Alma J Wetzker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is my understanding that the cdrom drives need to be addressed as scsi devices. No. You only need SCSI emulation if you wish to use a CD writer. As most Linux progs originally were written for Unix type systems

Re: What is a staging environment?

2003-08-19 Thread Alma J Wetzker
James McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:41:39 +1000 burns wrote: After a short break, on the 8th day the Lord invented staging environments. And verily they were wise that used them, even if the scribes and elders knew not. What is a staging environment? I haven't heard of it

Re: acixxx problem compiling new kernel 2.4.20

2003-08-19 Thread Alma J Wetzker
Terence McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 19 Aug 2003 15:28:46 +0100 On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 09:45:45 -0500 Alma J Wetzker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is my understanding that the cdrom drives need to be addressed as scsi devices. No. You only need SCSI emulation if you wish to use a CD writer. As

Re: What is a staging environment?

2003-08-19 Thread Net Llama!
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, Alma J Wetzker wrote: James McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:41:39 +1000 burns wrote: After a short break, on the 8th day the Lord invented staging environments. And verily they were wise that used them, even if the scribes and elders knew not.

Re: worms worms worms

2003-08-19 Thread Net Llama!
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003, Joel Hammer wrote: From a desktop perspective, everybody uses office. Unfortunately, everybody also uses some other task specific app without which, the job cannot be done. Office functionality is crucial but it as only the first step. I must agree. Try getting

Re: Easy to make Linux SCO free...

2003-08-19 Thread Mike Reinehr
Is it just me or is this site down? I've been trying to access this news article since I first came into work this morning, five hours ago, but all I get is a time-out error. cmr On Monday 18 August 2003 08:46 pm, you wrote: This says it all... http://www.vnunet.com/News/1143061 --

Re: SCO is suing SCO

2003-08-19 Thread Jean Sagi
This man is getting crazy... Chucho! bof wrote: For background to this article, first read http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/61/32233.html. In a surprise press conference today, SCO's Darryl McBride announced that SCO is suing SCO . McBride appeared at the conference with two baseball

Re: What is a staging environment?

2003-08-19 Thread James McDonald
Development Staging Production Staging is what you use to remove any issues that could impact uptime in production. Oh we call it dev test prod or a sandbox -- James McDonald Systems Engineer Singleton NSW Australia 61+ (0)2 6570 1556 (bh) 61+ (0)2 6571 2401 (ah) 61+ 0428 320 219 (mob)

'Cheap' UnixWare

2003-08-19 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
Anyone else get an offer from SCO to buy UnixWare for the same price as SCO's UnitedLinux server offerings? It may only be in Europe. I won't be making any purchases, but I wonder how this fits in the SCO plans. -- Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: SCO and Linux Question.

2003-08-19 Thread Ben Duncan
FROM: http://www.infoconomy.com/pages/news-and-gossip/group83631.adp Quote SCO: One million lines of Linux 'stolen' 19 August 2003 SCO Group has made its most thorough and emphatic

Re: Easy to make Linux SCO free...

2003-08-19 Thread Collins Richey
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 13:30:04 -0500 Mike Reinehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it just me or is this site down? I've been trying to access this news article since I first came into work this morning, five hours ago, but all I get is a time-out error. cmr On Monday 18 August 2003 08:46 pm,

Re: Easy to make Linux SCO free...

2003-08-19 Thread burns
On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 14:30, Mike Reinehr wrote: Is it just me or is this site down? I've been trying to access this news article since I first came into work this morning, five hours ago, but all I get is a time-out error. Works OK here. -- burns

Re: acixxx problem compiling new kernel 2.4.20

2003-08-19 Thread burns
On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 10:45, Alma J Wetzker wrote: It is my understanding that the cdrom drives need to be addressed as scsi devices. To accomplish this, a software shim is put in place to translate ide type calls to scsi calls. (That would be the ide-scsi thing.) Please bear in mind that

Re: worms worms worms

2003-08-19 Thread Leon A. Goldstein
Net Llama wrote inter alia: Yea, i hear that apt-get thing is really painful time consuming. Well, if you do a complete KDE upgrade with a dial-up connection it can be a bit time consuming. As far as painful goes, there are some people who might disagree. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by

Re: Easy to make Linux SCO free...

2003-08-19 Thread Mike Reinehr
Ok, I guess it's me then. I've tried this link with both Konqueror (v2.2.2) and with Mozilla (v1.4) and gotten the same result, a status message connecting with www.vnunet.com and then nothing happens for about five minutes until, finally, I receive a time-out error message. I finally broke

Re: Easy to make Linux SCO free...

2003-08-19 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003, Mike Reinehr wrote: Ok, I guess it's me then. ... Any insight would be appreciated. Is anyone else having this problem, or is it just me? Ask your Ingram Micro sales person if they also have 800 numbers that can only be reached by Microsoft telephones. Bill -- INTERNET:

Re: Easy to make Linux SCO free...

2003-08-19 Thread Mike Reinehr
Can't open this one in any browser. In IE6 I get a server not found or DNS error message. For what it's worth, I, at least, could ping www.vnunet.com. I don't get any returns from www.perens.org. mike On Tuesday 19 August 2003 04:49 pm, you wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2003, Collins Richey wrote:

Re: Easy to make Linux SCO free...

2003-08-19 Thread Myles Green
On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 15:49, Bill Campbell wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2003, Collins Richey wrote: Try this one, fresh from SCO Forum: http://www.perens.org/Articles/SCOCopiedCode.html Wow, this can't be good for sco's case... snicker -- Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Easy to make Linux SCO free...

2003-08-19 Thread Mike Reinehr
Or computers which only run on MS branded electricity! I've sent several emails to their website support address, but haven't gotten a single response. I guess they're making so much money they they don't need a little bit more. mike On Tuesday 19 August 2003 05:35 pm, you wrote: On Tue, Aug

Re: Easy to make Linux SCO free...

2003-08-19 Thread Collins Richey
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 16:56:56 -0600 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using Mozilla Firebird 0.6.1, www.vnunet.com and www.ingrammicro.com work aok, but the www.perens.org site is DOA. Replying to my on post. I think all of these are marginal websites, i.e. likely to be overloaded

Re: Easy to make Linux SCO free...

2003-08-19 Thread Mike Reinehr
I saw a news article this week touting the latest Firebird release. I guess I'd better give it a try. Sounds really good. Thanks for the help. mike On Tuesday 19 August 2003 05:56 pm, you wrote: On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:27:34 -0500 Mike Reinehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I guess it's me

Re: Easy to make Linux SCO free...

2003-08-19 Thread Myles Green
On August 19, 2003 04:27 pm, Mike Reinehr wrote: Ok, I guess it's me then. I've tried this link with both Konqueror (v2.2.2) and with Mozilla (v1.4) and gotten the same result, a status message connecting with www.vnunet.com and then nothing happens for about five minutes until, finally, I

undo rm

2003-08-19 Thread Ian Stephen
Hi all Supposing someone working as root (su) typed rm -fr ./Some_directory/../*.* then noticed, in Konqueror running on another display, what may have been directories in the directory from which the command was issued disappearing. Doesn't look to me like that should happen, but maybe the

Re: undo rm

2003-08-19 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003, Ian Stephen wrote: Hi all Supposing someone working as root (su) typed rm -fr ./Some_directory/../*.* then noticed, in Konqueror running on another display, what may have been directories in the directory from which the command was issued disappearing. Doesn't look to

Wow! This is how it's supposed to be ...

2003-08-19 Thread Michael Hipp
Just downloaded an xft-enabled binary of MozillaFirebird 0.6.1+, and the fonts are truly beautiful. In fact, the fonts are better than on IE or Mozilla on W2k in a side-by-side comparison (and the W2k box has better video hardware to its advantage). Less jaggies, smoother. This is progress!

Re: Wow! This is how it's supposed to be ...

2003-08-19 Thread Net Llama!
On 08/19/03 18:14, Michael Hipp wrote: Just downloaded an xft-enabled binary of MozillaFirebird 0.6.1+, and the fonts are truly beautiful. In fact, the fonts are better than on IE or Mozilla on W2k in a side-by-side comparison (and the W2k box has better video hardware to its advantage). Less

worm upon worm?

2003-08-19 Thread Harry Giles
http://drudgereport.com/flash1.htm Harry G ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

'Make' error on komba

2003-08-19 Thread Michael Hipp
Someone suggested 'komba' as a LAN browser for Linux. Looks good so I'm attempting to compile it from source. Configure seems to run fine, but 'make' produces this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] komba2-0.7.3]# make cd . autoconf aclocal.m4:2509: error: m4_defn: undefined macro: _m4_divert_diversion

Re: What is a staging environment?

2003-08-19 Thread burns
On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 03:41, James McDonald wrote: What is a staging environment? I haven't heard of it before in relation to IT. Proper, enterprise class infrastructures don't do everything on their main (live) systems. Believe it or not, industry 'best practices' call for several duplicate

Re: Easy to make Linux SCO free...

2003-08-19 Thread Collins Richey
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:55:18 -0500 Mike Reinehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw a news article this week touting the latest Firebird release. I guess I'd better give it a try. Sounds really good. I didn't see much that I need in the news article, so I'll stay on FB 0.6.1 and let the latest