Re: LinuxWorld 2003!
On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 17:02:44 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got back from a full day at LinuxWorld in San Francisco. This was my 3rd LW, and in my opinion, this was the best of the bunch. I arrived a half hour before the floor opened at 10AM, and already the place was packed. How does M$ do it? (0805_030) Positioned right by the toilets again! -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: LinuxWorld 2003!
On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 17:02:44 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Notably absent this year was Google. Granted they're not really selling anything that is Linux specific, but they were there last year, and were quite popular. This is a down time for most companies. If they aren't planning on some serious revenue coming from it, many companies are skipping trade-shows altogether. NetScreen is taking to the road on a Semi with all their gear in the trailer for demos... HP was once again rude. I wanted to play with their dual Opteron box, and the sales drone scolded me for touching the hardware without permission. I guess i missed the point of a trade show, if you can't actually play with the products being offered. Must have recognized you :p Probably the sales guy new that his techno-weenie was inept enough that this uberhacker (who they could tell knew what he was doing) might do something that they couldn't undo... -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eisgr.com/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: LinuxWorld 2003!
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote: On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 17:02:44 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Notably absent this year was Google. Granted they're not really selling anything that is Linux specific, but they were there last year, and were quite popular. This is a down time for most companies. If they aren't planning on some serious revenue coming from it, many companies are skipping trade-shows altogether. NetScreen is taking to the road on a Semi with all their gear in the trailer for demos... Google is currently more profitable than ever. Lack of revenue definitely isn't the reason why they didn't showup. I don't know what Netscreen is. HP was once again rude. I wanted to play with their dual Opteron box, and the sales drone scolded me for touching the hardware without permission. I guess i missed the point of a trade show, if you can't actually play with the products being offered. Must have recognized you :p Probably the sales guy new that his techno-weenie was inept enough that this uberhacker (who they could tell knew what he was doing) might do something that they couldn't undo... I dunno. They had the same reaction to my 'meddling' last year. I suspect that they just don't want anyone who isn't wearing a suit tie to touch their hardware. Their loss. There were quite a few other hardware vendors who were quite happy willing to let me poke around. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
LinuxWorld 2003!
Just got back from a full day at LinuxWorld in San Francisco. This was my 3rd LW, and in my opinion, this was the best of the bunch. I arrived a half hour before the floor opened at 10AM, and already the place was packed. IBM HP had the 2 'superbooths' to the right left of the main hall entrance. Together, they occupied nearly 25% of the total floor space. There was *ALOT* of swag this year, which was a pleasant change of pace from the past few years where it had been gradually decreasing in quantity. Novell had a fairly large booth where they were hawking their up coming linux offering big time. They made a great effort to reiterate that they have no intention of tinkering with Ximian, but instead pushed the fact that they plan to use Ximian's offerings to enhance their own. The Golden Penguin Bowl was mildly amusing, although just about everyone on the panel really wasn't all that famous, and Chris DiBona is becoming more more self-promotional in a teeth grinding way. Notably absent this year was Google. Granted they're not really selling anything that is Linux specific, but they were there last year, and were quite popular. I saw Maddog giving a talk in the IBM booth about how Linux helps global companies governments save money. This was the first time that i'd seen him in person, and he's quite a captivating speaker. The .org pavillion was ok, although smaller than last year. Gentoo was doing their thing, showing off uber-boxen running blazingly fast. HP was once again rude. I wanted to play with their dual Opteron box, and the sales drone scolded me for touching the hardware without permission. I guess i missed the point of a trade show, if you can't actually play with the products being offered. IBM had a bit of a toned down booth compared to last year's linux powered vending machines car. It was still well setup, with all of their HW product lines on display (including a fully functional z series). M$ was there, attempting to hawk their 'Unix Services for Windows', as well as some new stupid quasi-IDE that was noted to run on Windows, Solaris mac. What a bunch of idiots. And they were once again, well positioned in front of the restrooms. Oracle had a large booth that was a complete ghost town. Every time i walked by or through, there was almost no one in it. Oddly, they were giving free lunch to anyone who sat through a 10 minute demo, yet they still couldn't fill all the seats. Redhat's booth was scaled down a bit from last year, and didn't seem to be getting much foot traffic other than when they were giving out free hats (that were identical to last year's). Veritas was also a newcomer with a large new booth, although they didn't seem to understand what it was they were doing. Every single box there was running WinXP. O'Reilly had a significantly larger booth than the previous years. They were running a special, buy 2 books, get a 25th Anniversary t-shirt for free. The books were going like hotcakes. Xandros (Lindows competitor, with an updated Corel Linux) was giving away a full boxed set of their desktop distro to the first 1000 attendants. All day the line was very long. I got mine, which notably comes with a registered copy of WineX Crossover. Pictures are available here: http://netllama.linux-sxs.org/pix/lwce/ -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 4:30pm up 21 days, 19:12, 1 user, load average: 0.14, 0.30, 0.38 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: LinuxWorld 2003!
On 08/05/03 18:05, Collins Richey wrote: On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 17:02:44 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got back from a full day at LinuxWorld in San Francisco. This was my 3rd LW, and in my opinion, this was the best of the bunch. I arrived a half hour before the floor opened at 10AM, and already the place was packed. How does M$ do it? (0805_030) Positioned right by the toilets again! I'd like to think that they were told where their booth would be, and weren't given an option, although i know that's not what really happens. Truth be told, i did have to get into some fairly creative camera angles this time around to capture both MS the bathroom sign in the same shot. Last year they were literally right in front of the restrooms. This year, they were an aisle away. They're still full of sh!t. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 6:00pm up 21 days, 20:42, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.17, 0.12 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: LinuxWorld 2003!
John 'maddog' Hall. On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote: I want to know who Santa Clause is in the preceding pix.. On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 19:05:59 -0600 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 17:02:44 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got back from a full day at LinuxWorld in San Francisco. This was my 3rd LW, and in my opinion, this was the best of the bunch. I arrived a half hour before the floor opened at 10AM, and already the place was packed. How does M$ do it? (0805_030) Positioned right by the toilets again! -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: LinuxWorld 2003!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Net Llama! wrote: | Just got back from a full day at LinuxWorld in San Francisco. This was | my 3rd LW, and in my opinion, this was the best of the bunch. I arrived | a half hour before the floor opened at 10AM, and already the place was | packed. | snip | | Pictures are available here: | http://netllama.linux-sxs.org/pix/lwce/ | Nice pics. Thanks. What did you think of the SGI Altix in picture 18? We're considering one of these for our central data repository if Informix ever releases a 64 bit linux version, otherwise MySQL already has one. - -- Andrew Mathews - - ~ 8:02pm up 24 days, 1 min, 10 users, load average: 1.11, 1.07, 1.02 - - Oh, I get it!! The BEACH goes on, huh, SONNY?? - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Netscape - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/MGKFidHQ0m/kEssRAgS+AJ9W0Evn4q7QnvOkSgyFmBSIpaeDjQCfeg4B ExrNYddj8/ljs38rY9PLda4= =RZUr -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: LinuxWorld 2003!
I want to know who Santa Clause is in the preceding pix.. On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 19:05:59 -0600 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 17:02:44 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got back from a full day at LinuxWorld in San Francisco. This was my 3rd LW, and in my opinion, this was the best of the bunch. I arrived a half hour before the floor opened at 10AM, and already the place was packed. How does M$ do it? (0805_030) Positioned right by the toilets again! -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eisgr.com/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: LinuxWorld 2003!
On 08/05/03 17:51, Shane Broomhall (AUS) wrote: Sounds Great, I have just started going to IT meetings and conferences, does anyone know if anything simmilar is run in Australia ??? and if so when and where and roughtly what it costs. I would love to go to the next one. I am a lInux newbie, I have only been playing for about 3 years, but my clients are starting to adopt it. Thanks in advance. All i can find is: www.linuxexpo.com.au However it seems to be down right now. The US version provides a free pass for exhibits (the show floor) until about 6 weeks beforehand, and then the price ramps up to something like $20/person on the day of the show. And then all the extras (classes, meetings, etc) are an additional cost. However, i got my pass back in April, so going today didn't cost me any more than the BART fair into the city. Getting the free lunch was definitely an added, and unexpected bonus. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 5:55pm up 21 days, 20:37, 1 user, load average: 0.14, 0.09, 0.08 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: LinuxWorld 2003!
On 08/05/03 17:41, ronnie gauthier wrote: Xandros (Lindows competitor, with an updated Corel Linux) was giving away a full boxed set of their desktop distro to the first 1000 attendants. All day the line was very long. I got mine, which notably comes with a registered copy of WineX Crossover. Lucky dog! Well, not exactly. I don't really need/use it. I guess i could make an ISO and put it up online for others,if there is interest. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 5:45pm up 21 days, 20:27, 1 user, load average: 0.21, 0.18, 0.12 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: LinuxWorld 2003!
Come on Llama! Where's the gratuitous self-photo?? On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 17:02:44 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pictures are available here: http://netllama.linux-sxs.org/pix/lwce/ -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eisgr.com/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: LinuxWorld 2003!
Sounds Great, I have just started going to IT meetings and conferences, does anyone know if anything simmilar is run in Australia ??? and if so when and where and roughtly what it costs. I would love to go to the next one. I am a lInux newbie, I have only been playing for about 3 years, but my clients are starting to adopt it. Thanks in advance. Shane Broomhall Citrix Instructor of the Year 2001, APAC CCEA, CCA, CCI, CCSP LCI, LCP, Linux +, LPIC 1 MCSA, MCDBA, MCSE + I, MCSE (2K), MCT CNE, PCLP, SCSA, CTT+ Registered Linux User #276365 Citrix Trainer Consultant Shane Broomhall Consulting Pty Ltd Mobile: 0403 952 905 International (mobile/Cell) 61 403 952 905 MSN Messenger : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo Messenger opsidianorder Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: LinuxWorld 2003!
On 08/05/03 19:05, Andrew Mathews wrote: Net Llama! wrote: | Just got back from a full day at LinuxWorld in San Francisco. This was | my 3rd LW, and in my opinion, this was the best of the bunch. I arrived | a half hour before the floor opened at 10AM, and already the place was | packed. | snip | | Pictures are available here: | http://netllama.linux-sxs.org/pix/lwce/ | Nice pics. Thanks. What did you think of the SGI Altix in picture 18? We're considering one of these for our central data repository if Informix ever releases a 64 bit linux version, otherwise MySQL already has one. Damn sexy beast. SGI was a tad protective of it, so that picture was about as much interaction as I could get. SGI was buried in Intel's uberbooth. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 7:15pm up 21 days, 21:57, 2 users, load average: 0.25, 0.27, 0.19 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: LinuxWorld 2003!
On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 17:02:44 -0700 - Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the following Re: LinuxWorld 2003! Just got back from a full day at LinuxWorld in San Francisco. This was my 3rd LW, and in my opinion, this was the best of the bunch. I arrived a half hour before the floor opened at 10AM, and already the place was packed. snip Xandros (Lindows competitor, with an updated Corel Linux) was giving away a full boxed set of their desktop distro to the first 1000 attendants. All day the line was very long. I got mine, which notably comes with a registered copy of WineX Crossover. Lucky dog! Pictures are available here: http://netllama.linux-sxs.org/pix/lwce/ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: LinuxWorld 2003!
On Tuesday 05 August 2003 05:02 pm, Net Llama! wrote: snip O'Reilly had a significantly larger booth than the previous years. They were running a special, buy 2 books, get a 25th Anniversary t-shirt for free. The books were going like hotcakes. Damn! I just bought an O'Reilly book. I'll take it back and zip up to the show! Xandros (Lindows competitor, with an updated Corel Linux) was giving away a full boxed set of their desktop distro to the first 1000 attendants. All day the line was very long. I got mine, which notably comes with a registered copy of WineX Crossover. Hmmm, looks like I missed a good day. Tomorrow, I'm there. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd Rather Be Sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: LinuxWorld 2003!
Kinda hard when i'm the one with the camera. And anyway, i can't believe that anyone wants to see me ;) If you go up one directory, you can see loads of pictuers of my son going psycho. Just tack on 26 yers, and you have me. On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote: Come on Llama! Where's the gratuitous self-photo?? On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 17:02:44 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pictures are available here: http://netllama.linux-sxs.org/pix/lwce/ -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
