Re: Novell buys SuSE!
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 17:02, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: Are you using Calendars from the exchange server? Yep. Been working fine. I don't get invited to very many meetings but the ones I have gotten and I've replied to have added nicely to the calender. The same with ones that I've sent out. They updated the calender fine. But like I said, I don't do those very often. It has also worked well just for my basic calendering needs of adding an item and setting a reminder. What version of Evolution are you running? How about of GTK and all that? Running it on RH 9 and KDE. 1.4.5 on Evolution. GTK+ 1.2.10-25 and GTK2-2.2.1-4. Connector 1.4.5. I keep these updated via Ximian Red Carpet. And what version of exchange server do you access? 2000 Here it crashes just about every time when closing. In the previous release, it was also crashing when it was started. I was having that problem with 1.4.4 I believe but it went away when I upgraded to 1.4.5. I think ximiam had released a fix pretty quickly IIRC. We have Evolution 1.4.5 and gtk 2.4.0. I don't know what the version of exchange server is running. It has just been updated, so it is surely recent. Strange. I know that you have to have outlook web access enablde for it work work right. Could that be part of it? Tom Wilson McSwain Carpets 513.771.1400 x124 - The savior becomes the victim. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:00:13 -0500 Tom Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 17:02, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: Are you using Calendars from the exchange server? Yep. Been working fine. I don't get invited to very many meetings but the ones I have gotten and I've replied to have added nicely to the calender. The same with ones that I've sent out. They updated the calender fine. But like I said, I don't do those very often. It has also worked well just for my basic calendering needs of adding an item and setting a reminder. What version of Evolution are you running? How about of GTK and all that? Running it on RH 9 and KDE. 1.4.5 on Evolution. GTK+ 1.2.10-25 and GTK2-2.2.1-4. Connector 1.4.5. I keep these updated via Ximian Red Carpet. And what version of exchange server do you access? 2000 Here it crashes just about every time when closing. In the previous release, it was also crashing when it was started. I was having that problem with 1.4.4 I believe but it went away when I upgraded to 1.4.5. I think ximiam had released a fix pretty quickly IIRC. I am using 1.4.5. However, I am running it on Gentoo. So, the Connector is not compiled in my platform. All the rest of Evolution is compiled locally. But the Connector is closed source. Ximian only make the binary available. We have Evolution 1.4.5 and gtk 2.4.0. I don't know what the version of exchange server is running. It has just been updated, so it is surely recent. Strange. I know that you have to have outlook web access enablde for it work work right. Could that be part of it? The web access is enabled. I can access everything (mail and calendars), but it likes to crash on exit. Outlook mail is IMAP. At least when we set up access to the exchange server as an imap server, all is ok. It acts funny when we set up access as an exchange server to get the calendars. My wife has a gazillion calendar entries. The web access nicely only shows the ones for this month, and thus only downloads those. Probably settable. However, evolution seems to read all the calendar entriesyou have. If you have a couple of hundred, this takes a bit of time. My wife has calendar entries for the past few years. Perhaps if I could tell evolution to only read a subset of them it may not crash, and be faster to boot. I have not seen this option. Or where to tell evolution which browser to use for http links. It does not find my Firebird. Tom Wilson McSwain Carpets 513.771.1400 x124 - The savior becomes the victim. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
Roger Oberholtzer wrote: My wife has a gazillion calendar entries. The web access nicely only shows the ones for this month, and thus only downloads those. Probably settable. However, evolution seems to read all the calendar entriesyou have. If you have a couple of hundred, this takes a bit of time. My wife has calendar entries for the past few years. Perhaps if I could tell evolution to only read a subset of them it may not crash, and be faster to boot. I have not seen this option. Or where to tell evolution which browser to use for http links. It does not find my Firebird. Tom Wilson McSwain Carpets 513.771.1400 x124 Are you running Evolution under kde, gnome or some other desktop? If under kde go to control center kde components file associations text html and move up the preferred browser you want to use as default. -- Ted Ozolins(VE7TVO) Westbank, B.C. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 18:48, Ted Ozolins wrote: Roger Oberholtzer wrote: My wife has a gazillion calendar entries. The web access nicely only shows the ones for this month, and thus only downloads those. Probably settable. However, evolution seems to read all the calendar entriesyou have. If you have a couple of hundred, this takes a bit of time. My wife has calendar entries for the past few years. Perhaps if I could tell evolution to only read a subset of them it may not crash, and be faster to boot. I have not seen this option. Or where to tell evolution which browser to use for http links. It does not find my Firebird. Tom Wilson McSwain Carpets 513.771.1400 x124 Are you running Evolution under kde, gnome or some other desktop? If under kde go to control center kde components file associations text html and move up the preferred browser you want to use as default. I run it under KDE 3.1.4. I do not think Evolution looks at the KDE settings. At least it seems that it does not. I get the following error when I click on a url in Evolution: (evolution-1.4:4222): evolution-mail-WARNING **: gnome_url_show: There was an error launching the default action command associated with this location. I would expect it to use GNOME settings. As I do not run Gnome, this is not set. I have a rather recent GNOME installed. Maybe I need to fire it up so I can set this... -- Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
I have been curious what this means for the Ximian desktop. Novell also bought them. Perhaps a merging of the two? Does this mean SuSE will become more Gnome-ish? That would be too bad, IMHO. But I would love to see Evolution grow. Maybe not crash all the time when connecting to an Outhouse server. The irony is that the one part of Evolution I have actually paid for is the one part that does not work. The rest I like very much. Bumped Sylpheed of the desk... On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 21:11, Shawn L Johnston wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 18:16, Collins Richey wrote: There are only two possibilities - Novel/SUSE will become a dominent player in the linux marketplace, or they'll go under. I'm betting on the former. I agree. I think this is a good thing for both SuSE and Novell. Commercial linux needs a good buisness backbone and hopefully Novell can provide this since its obvious that Sun is never going to truly step up to the plate. SuSE has good products but horrible Sales people and marginal support services. Red Hat doesn't even bother with sales people. Novell in contrast too Red Hat and SuSE has very responsive sales folks and while somewhat of a behemoth their web based support has excellant documentation. Novell needs to do something new with their buisness though and with their purchase of SilverStream last year and Ximian and SuSE this year it looks like they are going to try something new. Shawn ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 16:35, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: I have been curious what this means for the Ximian desktop. Novell also bought them. Perhaps a merging of the two? Does this mean SuSE will become more Gnome-ish? That would be too bad, IMHO. But I would love to see Evolution grow. Maybe not crash all the time when connecting to an Outhouse server. The irony is that the one part of Evolution I have actually paid for is the one part that does not work. The rest I like very much. Bumped Sylpheed of the desk... I'm using the exchange connector at work and it is fine. It occasionally crashes but not even at a rate that is annoying. Maybe once every couple weeks at the most. After a crash I run 'evolution --force-shutdown' and it always comes right back up and hums along smoothly. Tom Wilson McSwain Carpets 513.771.1400 x124 - A word to the wise is enough. -- Miguel de Cervantes ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 22:42, Tom Wilson wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 16:35, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: I have been curious what this means for the Ximian desktop. Novell also bought them. Perhaps a merging of the two? Does this mean SuSE will become more Gnome-ish? That would be too bad, IMHO. But I would love to see Evolution grow. Maybe not crash all the time when connecting to an Outhouse server. The irony is that the one part of Evolution I have actually paid for is the one part that does not work. The rest I like very much. Bumped Sylpheed of the desk... I'm using the exchange connector at work and it is fine. It occasionally crashes but not even at a rate that is annoying. Maybe once every couple weeks at the most. After a crash I run 'evolution --force-shutdown' and it always comes right back up and hums along smoothly. Are you using Calendars from the exchange server? What version of Evolution are you running? How about of GTK and all that? And what version of exchange server do you access? Here it crashes just about every time when closing. In the previous release, it was also crashing when it was started. We have Evolution 1.4.5 and gtk 2.4.0. I don't know what the version of exchange server is running. It has just been updated, so it is surely recent. -- Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 22:22, Matthew Carpenter wrote: Let's just hope Novell has lost their Reverse-Midas touch... Novell spawned Caldera. I hope this works out better for everyone. Am I dreaming, or did I read somewhere Ransom Love had a stake in this? -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:35:56 +0100 Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been curious what this means for the Ximian desktop. Novell also bought them. Perhaps a merging of the two? Does this mean SuSE will become more Gnome-ish? That would be too bad, IMHO. But I would love to see Evolution grow. Maybe not crash all the time when connecting to an Outhouse server. The irony is that the one part of Evolution I have actually paid for is the one part that does not work. The rest I like very much. Bumped Sylpheed of the desk... I used Ximian Evolution for a few days on fedora core 1. Not bad overall. Really simple to setup folders and filters. The one feature I found difficult to get used to was the display of threads - too little indent after the first entry in a thread, so my weak old eyes couldn't pick out start and stop of a thread very easily. I don't have an Outhouse server to try, thank the good lord. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 18:16, Collins Richey wrote: There are only two possibilities - Novel/SUSE will become a dominent player in the linux marketplace, or they'll go under. I'm betting on the former. I agree. I think this is a good thing for both SuSE and Novell. Commercial linux needs a good buisness backbone and hopefully Novell can provide this since its obvious that Sun is never going to truly step up to the plate. SuSE has good products but horrible Sales people and marginal support services. Red Hat doesn't even bother with sales people. Novell in contrast too Red Hat and SuSE has very responsive sales folks and while somewhat of a behemoth their web based support has excellant documentation. Novell needs to do something new with their buisness though and with their purchase of SilverStream last year and Ximian and SuSE this year it looks like they are going to try something new. Shawn ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
Let's just hope Novell has lost their Reverse-Midas touch... - Original Message - From: Shawn L Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Novell buys SuSE! On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 18:16, Collins Richey wrote: There are only two possibilities - Novel/SUSE will become a dominent player in the linux marketplace, or they'll go under. I'm betting on the former. I agree. I think this is a good thing for both SuSE and Novell. Commercial linux needs a good buisness backbone and hopefully Novell can provide this since its obvious that Sun is never going to truly step up to the plate. SuSE has good products but horrible Sales people and marginal support services. Red Hat doesn't even bother with sales people. Novell in contrast too Red Hat and SuSE has very responsive sales folks and while somewhat of a behemoth their web based support has excellant documentation. Novell needs to do something new with their buisness though and with their purchase of SilverStream last year and Ximian and SuSE this year it looks like they are going to try something new. Shawn ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Novell buys SuSE!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mickey Hill writes Novell today announced it has entered into an agreement to acquire SUSE LINUX, one of the world's leading enterprise Linux companies, expanding Novell's ability to provide enterprise-class services and support on the Linux platform. Novell expects the transaction to close by the end of its first fiscal quarter (January 2004). This latest move follows Novell's August purchase of Ximian. - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 http://doug.hunley.homeip.net http://www.linux-sxs.org The software said it requires Windows 95 or better, so I installed Linux -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/p73R2MO5UukaubkRAiavAJ9yFvjaII9fHNKLbCX2ZuIOjcE2cQCfUvzc +5+7ZEmWXsO56r/4KeBptHw= =g4kR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
On Tuesday 04 November 2003 06:55 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mickey Hill writes Novell today announced it has entered into an agreement to acquire SUSE LINUX, snip The people on the SuSE list are going berserk. Novell stock is up some 30% on the news. Somebody thinks it's a good idea. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd Rather Be Sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
Tony Alfrey wrote: The people on the SuSE list are going berserk. So are they glad or sad? Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony Alfrey wrote: The people on the SuSE list are going berserk. in a good way? or no? - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at linux-sxs.org) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org I stayed up all night playing poker with tarot cards. I got a full house and four people died. -- Steven Wright -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/p8232MO5UukaubkRAmlJAJ953gUM9CZhg10WJ5LWQSMGZ+p2mgCfVnY5 lNP0PsE+ETkUSAn+cJx5f6E= =kSIv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:31:08 -0800 Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 04 November 2003 06:55 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mickey Hill writes Novell today announced it has entered into an agreement to acquire SUSE LINUX, snip The people on the SuSE list are going berserk. Novell stock is up some 30% on the news. Somebody thinks it's a good idea. I'm one of those somebodies! With Novell's customer network and SUSE's fine linux products, this is a marriage made in heaven. Eat your heart out SCO! -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:15:25 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm one of those somebodies! With Novell's customer network and SUSE's fine linux products, this is a marriage made in heaven. Eat your heart out SCO! The following is meant with a mixture of humor and seriousness. This is the same Novell that bought Unix from ATT and botched it? Our company has the good fortune of being the kiss of death to every Unix/Linux platform we have chosen. We have been wondering how SuSE was going down after we settled on it. Our 'heritage' for primary platform is: ATT SVR4 - ATT SVR4.2 - Univel UnixWare - Novell UnixWare - SCO UnixWare - Caldera OpenLinux - SuSE Linux. I would love to be wrong here. But ain't no arguing with history. We have even considered doing the world a big favor and going MS. -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
On Tuesday 04 November 2003 09:05 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: snip ATT SVR4 - ATT SVR4.2 - Univel UnixWare - Novell UnixWare - SCO UnixWare - Caldera OpenLinux - SuSE Linux. snip Looks like you guys have bad kharma g. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd Rather Be Sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
On Tuesday 04 November 2003 08:03 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony Alfrey wrote: The people on the SuSE list are going berserk. in a good way? or no? Well, as one might expect, there are two camps. The paranoid that see EVIL in all things corporate and see MS behind everything, and the optimistic capitalists that see the boost in investment and corporate clout as a counterbalance to Red Hat hegemony. And all gradations in between. But the total KB of SuSE list volume is up today by about 400%. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd Rather Be Sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:05:48 +0100 Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:15:25 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm one of those somebodies! With Novell's customer network and SUSE's fine linux products, this is a marriage made in heaven. Eat your heart out SCO! The following is meant with a mixture of humor and seriousness. This is the same Novell that bought Unix from ATT and botched it? Our company has the good fortune of being the kiss of death to every Unix/Linux platform we have chosen. We have been wondering how SuSE was going down after we settled on it. Our 'heritage' for primary platform is: ATT SVR4 - ATT SVR4.2 - Univel UnixWare - Novell UnixWare - SCO UnixWare - Caldera OpenLinux - SuSE Linux. I would love to be wrong here. But ain't no arguing with history. We have even considered doing the world a big favor and going MS. The feedback on Linux Today is a mixture of SCO take your [EMAIL PROTECTED] and stuff it, KDE will die (the Novel/XIMIAN connection), and bemoaning the loss of European control of a major linux distro. I would think(hope) that Novell has learned something since the Unix debacle. The initial press release indicates that Novell will push the desktop offerings. Since RedHat has chosen to concentrate on servers, this merger (if well executed) could provide the impetus to bring linux to a lot more of the commercial desktop user market. Maybe you won't need to signup with MS, Roger, to hasten the demise of MS! -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 18:22, Tony Alfrey wrote: On Tuesday 04 November 2003 09:05 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: snip ATT SVR4 - ATT SVR4.2 - Univel UnixWare - Novell UnixWare - SCO UnixWare - Caldera OpenLinux - SuSE Linux. snip Looks like you guys have bad kharma g. Karma shmarma. We just make good choices... ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
Collins Richey wrote: The feedback on Linux Today is a mixture of SCO take your [EMAIL PROTECTED] and stuff it, KDE will die (the Novel/XIMIAN connection), and bemoaning the loss of European control of a major linux distro. I would think(hope) that Novell has learned something since the Unix debacle. The initial press release indicates that Novell will push the desktop offerings. Since RedHat has chosen to concentrate on servers, this merger (if well executed) could provide the impetus to bring linux to a lot more of the commercial desktop user market. Maybe you won't need to signup with MS, Roger, to hasten the demise of MS! Some of us remember what happened to DR DOS and Word Perfect after Novell bought them. It is not auspicious IMHO. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.8 Debian Linux System LI ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
quoth Leon A. Goldstein: | Some of us remember what happened to DR DOS and Word Perfect after | Novell bought them. It is not auspicious IMHO. let's hope that there exists an ability to learn. as i understand it, ibm has just invested $50 million in novell, which certainly tells us something. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:59:11 -0500 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quoth Leon A. Goldstein: | Some of us remember what happened to DR DOS and Word Perfect after | Novell bought them. It is not auspicious IMHO. let's hope that there exists an ability to learn. as i understand it, ibm has just invested $50 million in novell, which certainly tells us something. -- DRDOS just plain got MSDOS'd and WIN'd. At the time Novel was flailing around with WordPerfect, no one other than we afficionados really had a vision of linux as a desktop platform with any hopes of competing with MS, so Novel weren't willing to make the investment to do the conversion. According to other articles, IBM has much more riding on the deal than its 2% share would indicate. There are only two possibilities - Novel/SUSE will become a dominent player in the linux marketplace, or they'll go under. I'm betting on the former. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
Leon A. Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 04 Nov 2003 17:55:29 -0500 Collins Richey wrote: The feedback on Linux Today is a mixture of SCO take your [EMAIL PROTECTED] and stuff it, KDE will die (the Novel/XIMIAN connection), and bemoaning the loss of European control of a major linux distro. I would think(hope) that Novell has learned something since the Unix debacle. The initial press release indicates that Novell will push the desktop offerings. Since RedHat has chosen to concentrate on servers, this merger (if well executed) could provide the impetus to bring linux to a lot more of the commercial desktop user market. Maybe you won't need to signup with MS, Roger, to hasten the demise of MS! Some of us remember what happened to DR DOS and Word Perfect after Novell bought them. It is not auspicious IMHO. Back in those days Novell had other options and revenue streams. Those represented a attempt to move WAY out of their core business. Today things are different. Novell is flailing away in a desperate attempt to remain relevant in corporate IT and as a business. I think the acquisition nicely complements the only things they have left to offer their customers. -- Alma ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
