Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)

2001-09-23 Thread Joel Hammer
Well, our CEO forwarded my letter to the head of IS for our system. I suspect that the response will be to push ahead and get windows XP installed everywhere ASAP because it must have better security than earlier versions of windows, right? Joel

Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)

2001-09-23 Thread Chang
You can use port 23 for SSL... I suppose. :) They don't seem to allow SSL from work, so I have no choice. I haven't been cracked because: 1. I have ways. 2. I am not worth cracking. I mean, what is there to steal? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get

Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)

2001-09-21 Thread Joel Hammer
Here is part of the response to the worm at my place. I guess they think that everyone is going to do this. What a joke. Email from IS: === As a follow up to previous communication, Internet access cannot be restored until we have installed

Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)

2001-09-21 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 14:17:45 -0400 Wil McGilvery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | One thing that needs to be mentioned is that a large number of IT companies | make money because MS is so insecure. Like I said, MS is a jobs program. Linux better be careful. It may get a reputation as a jobs

Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)

2001-09-21 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 10:12:00 -0400 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Regarding the response of our IS professionals. They did block all access to | the internet yesterday and today I still can't browse. I guess they think we | all use the Explorer. | I spoke to our lab IS professional

Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)

2001-09-21 Thread Joel Hammer
Well, internet access was down all day at work. Couldn't look up anything regarding medical literature for our specimen sign outs. Really a problem. My network server went down so no email, internal or external. Of course, I just telnet home and use my linux box for email, anyway. They stopped

Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)

2001-09-21 Thread Joel Hammer
You allow telnet into your home box? That's a great way to get your system cracked. They don't seem to allow SSL from work, so I have no choice. I haven't been cracked because: 1. I have ways. 2. I am not worth cracking. I mean, what is there to steal? I thought @HOME had blocked all

Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)

2001-09-20 Thread Lee
alternative. A lot of these people don't know that much about their computer and Linux/Unix terrifies them. -Original Message- From: Chang Sent: Wed 9/19/2001 9:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already) no way. worms would merely lure more

Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)

2001-09-20 Thread Joel Hammer
Here is an email we got today. It actually came as a rich text format, not a word document, which is surprising. We are a very large multi-hospital health system. === This is to advise you that a new computer virus called Nimda is

RE: fighting the worm (enough of this already)

2001-09-20 Thread Wil McGilvery
:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already) Here is an email we got today. It actually came as a rich text format, not a word document, which is surprising. We are a very large multi-hospital health system

RE: fighting the worm (enough of this already)

2001-09-20 Thread Wil McGilvery
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already) Would vote a conditional yes. Not so much desktop users as server administrators. By now they have to be getting pretty fed up with complaints from clients bothered by Microsoft worm of the week shut/slow downs. Wil McGilvery

Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)

2001-09-20 Thread Matt . Carpenter
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Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)

2001-09-20 Thread Chang
it is a religionit would be tremendously difficult to twist a party's religious belief. The real kick in the teeth is everyone loves to complain, but when you suggest an alternative, it is rejected. I know lots of network administrators who know a lot less than they should. These people

Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)

2001-09-19 Thread Joel Hammer
Let's take a vote. Does anyone think that current users of windows products (server or browser) will switch because of this latest worm? I vote no, because if they didn't switch after the last worm, they don't have the brains or time to make a switch. It might be time to think whether or not

Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)

2001-09-19 Thread Bill Campbell
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 01:43:01PM -0400, Joel Hammer wrote: Let's take a vote. Does anyone think that current users of windows products (server or browser) will switch because of this latest worm? I vote no, because if they didn't switch after the last worm, they don't have the brains or time to

Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)

2001-09-19 Thread Jerry McBride
On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:21:40 -0400 Douglas J. Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a bit hesitant to post this, but I know others probably feel the way I do, so... Doug, Dude... becareful who you show this to... :') You're amongst friends here, no dobt about it... but an idiot from the

Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)

2001-09-19 Thread Douglas J. Hunley
On Wednesday 19 September 2001 06:06, Jerry McBride babbled: Dude... becareful who you show this to... :') this list is full disclosure. and I didn't advocate using it. I simply made my thoughts available. It is a nice trick though... ;) thanks for the warning though. -- Douglas J. Hunley

Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)

2001-09-19 Thread Chang
no way. worms would merely lure more users to pay more to microsoft so that she could solve their problems, kind of a negative feedback loop. Let's take a vote. Does anyone think that current users of windows products (server or browser) will switch because of this latest worm? I vote no,

RE: fighting the worm (enough of this already)

2001-09-19 Thread Wil McGilvery
I vote no, because they don't believe there is any alternative. A lot of these people don't know that much about their computer and Linux/Unix terrifies them. -Original Message- From: Chang Sent: Wed 9/19/2001 9:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: fighting the worm

Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)

2001-09-18 Thread Joel Hammer
I fought the worm. Virtually all of my hits were coming from 24.0.0.0/8. So, I just blocked that on my firewall without logging it. Joel ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc

Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)

2001-09-18 Thread Bill Day
hmm very interesting.. says the wise man.. I concur, (gettin help on the howto of it hehe), that this is enough, I too would have been hesitant about it(posting) and willr eamin hesitant about the porkers knockin at my door Have a good day gents On Tuesday 18 September 2001 20:21,

Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)

2001-09-18 Thread Chang
The only pausible reason for linux users to do it is because it's abusing our shared bandwith. I don't have the resources to counter M$ WTC-class terrorists. Get the ISP military. My ISP has baanned port 80 (not good actually) after the first code-red worm. They haven't lifted the ban yet.

Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)

2001-09-18 Thread Joel Hammer
This wouldn't be hard to get around. Just register with a company to get your own domain name and have them maintain it for you ($35 per year?), then redirect it to your home IP to port, say 81, with apache listening to port 81. Windows users are such a drag. Really. But, they help support the

Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)

2001-09-18 Thread Ronnie Gauthier
If the ISP has a clue they have also closed 81 as most servers answer 81 for admin use. On Tuesday 18 September 2001 21:33, Joel Hammer wrote: This wouldn't be hard to get around. Just register with a company to get your own domain name and have them maintain it for you ($35 per year?),