Re: CD-RWs

2001-10-04 Thread David Aikema

On October 3, 2001 06:54 pm, David Aikema wrote:

 A local retail store's got a LiteOn 16x10x40 cd-rw on sale for $137CDN
 until the weekend which is $2 more than my normal supplier of parts offers
 for an OEM 12x10x32 drive by the same company.

Hey cool... another local store seems to have discounted a few cd burners as 
well competition I guess.

This one is an LG12x8x32  it appears to be a bit slower but has an 8 meg 
buffer w/o burn proof as opposed to the other's 2 meg buffer with burn 
proof... for $140 CDN.  Any reccomendations b/w the two?

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Re: CD-RWs

2001-10-04 Thread Ken Moffat

On Thu, 04 Oct 2001 13:18:32 +0800
Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am still burning my cd with windows 98.  Cannot comment on the
  linux support for LiteOn. It's cheap, reliable and fast. That' s all I 
 care.
 for USD76, you possibly can buy a 16w Liteon in Hongkong.! 8w ???
 hmm... :)

I have a 12x10x32 LiteOn that works fine using cdrecord under RedHat7.1
using scsi emulation.


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Re: CD-RWs

2001-10-04 Thread David Aikema

On October 4, 2001 03:23 am, Ken Moffat wrote:
 On Thu, 04 Oct 2001 13:18:32 +0800

 Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am still burning my cd with windows 98.  Cannot comment on the
   linux support for LiteOn. It's cheap, reliable and fast. That' s all I
  care.
  for USD76, you possibly can buy a 16w Liteon in Hongkong.! 8w ???
  hmm... :)

 I have a 12x10x32 LiteOn that works fine using cdrecord under RedHat7.1
 using scsi emulation.

Including burnproof?  I'm kinda worried about the low amount of cache that 
the drive's got.

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Re: CD-RWs

2001-10-04 Thread Net Llama

Hey, its your call.  As far as i'm concerned there are Plextor  Yamaha
burners, and then there's everything else.  

--- David Aikema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On October 3, 2001 07:09 pm, Net Llama wrote:
  You, sir, need to take a trip to pricewatch.com, immediately.  Do
 not
  purchase that LiteOn CD burner, not only becuase LiteOn products are
  very poor quality, but because there are far better values
 available.
 
  Variations on this theme have come up many times before, so i'll
 give
  you the short version. Yamaha  Plextor make very good quality CD
  burners.  All others are of questionable quality, and will either:
  1) not work at all under Linux
  2) work very poorly, generating alot of coasters
  3) fail early in their lifespans
 
 The LiteOn model shows up as working under linux (in the
 linux-mandrake 
 hardware database as working).  The cd-record homepage also suggests
 that all 
 cd-writers produced in 1999 or earlier are supported.  Its just the 
 burn-proof that I'm worried about.
 
  Right now i see a US$76 Yamaha CRW8824E 8x8x24 INTERNAL IDE CD-RW
 8824E
  at pricewatch.  Even with the Canadian exchange rate, its still
 cheaper
  than the one below.
 
 Cheaper when you figure in the exchange rate, yes but if I've got
 my 
 calculations right the thieves at the border will drive the price of
 that 
 drive far over the cost of the LiteOn
 
 On October 3, 2001 07:36 pm, Chang wrote:
  yes, and it has to be priced right to become an essential item.
  LiteOn is a well-received item here in Shamshiopo, Hongkong.
  It's cheap and  works fine.  I planned on taking a 24w model this
 Xmas
  to replace my 2-year-old Panasonic 4w CDR.
 
  But it's definitely not the best (which means expansive brands
  likeYamaha and Plextor).
 
 Seems to be a slight difference of opinion here.
 
 BTW I found the following note regarding Lite-On drives (following
 links 
 from the cdrecord homepage) at
 http://www.cdrfaq.org/faq05.html#S5-1-43:
 Some of the drives appear to be based on Plextor units. 
 
 The reviews I've found of the drive have seemed generally positive,
 although 
 there may be some issues in the quality of any DAE done... but then
 again the 
 purpose of this drive would mainly be to write not read I've got a
 cd-rom 
 to do the other fun stuff.



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Re: CD-RWs

2001-10-04 Thread Jim Conner

I have a Yamaha 4x4x16 that I purchased 2 years ago and it's burnt hundreds 
of cd's and it's still going strong.  I'd recommend a Yamaha or Plextor.  
Most low end burners are reboxes.  They are made by someone else(one or more 
companies) and then have a different faceplate, sticker and box put with it.  
HiVal is one such company that does this.  As for the burn-proof, this is 
supported by the latest version of cdrecord.  As for the LiteOn  or LG being 
any good, well, it's a crap shoot.  If you buy a Yamaha or a Plextor, you 
will know for sure that it's quality merchandise and won't have any problems 
with it.  I'd do some more looking around if I were you.

Jim

On Thursday October 04, 2001  1:54 am, David Aikema wrote:
 On October 3, 2001 06:54 pm, David Aikema wrote:
  A local retail store's got a LiteOn 16x10x40 cd-rw on sale for $137CDN
  until the weekend which is $2 more than my normal supplier of parts
  offers for an OEM 12x10x32 drive by the same company.

 Hey cool... another local store seems to have discounted a few cd burners
 as well competition I guess.

 This one is an LG12x8x32  it appears to be a bit slower but has an 8
 meg buffer w/o burn proof as opposed to the other's 2 meg buffer with burn
 proof... for $140 CDN.  Any reccomendations b/w the two?

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Re: CD-RWs

2001-10-04 Thread Ken Moffat

Don't know about burn proof, I have read that people can't make it work,
but how do I know if it works or not?
Just know the drive burns cd's using cdrecord. 

On Thu, 04 Oct 2001 07:23:53 -0700
David Aikema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On October 4, 2001 03:23 am, Ken Moffat wrote:
  On Thu, 04 Oct 2001 13:18:32 +0800
 
  Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I am still burning my cd with windows 98.  Cannot comment on the
linux support for LiteOn. It's cheap, reliable and fast. That' s
 all I
   care.
   for USD76, you possibly can buy a 16w Liteon in Hongkong.! 8w ???
   hmm... :)
 
  I have a 12x10x32 LiteOn that works fine using cdrecord under
 RedHat7.1
  using scsi emulation.
 
 Including burnproof?  I'm kinda worried about the low amount of cache
 that 
 the drive's got.
 
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CD-RWs

2001-10-03 Thread David Aikema

It's becoming more and more apparently that in the modern world a CD-RW is 
almost essential.  But of course there's not much money in my budget to pick 
one up so I'm looking at the low end of the market.

A local retail store's got a LiteOn 16x10x40 cd-rw on sale for $137CDN until 
the weekend which is $2 more than my normal supplier of parts offers for an 
OEM 12x10x32 drive by the same company.

I'm wondering if this model would be a good bet it only has a 2 meg data 
buffer but does have burn-proof technology by Samsung.  (Is burn-proof 
supported by cdrecord and any other linux software? ...does it even require 
software support?)

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Re: CD-RWs

2001-10-03 Thread Net Llama

You, sir, need to take a trip to pricewatch.com, immediately.  Do not
purchase that LiteOn CD burner, not only becuase LiteOn products are
very poor quality, but because there are far better values available.  

Variations on this theme have come up many times before, so i'll give
you the short version. Yamaha  Plextor make very good quality CD
burners.  All others are of questionable quality, and will either:
1) not work at all under Linux
2) work very poorly, generating alot of coasters
3) fail early in their lifespans

Right now i see a US$76 Yamaha CRW8824E 8x8x24 INTERNAL IDE CD-RW 8824E
at pricewatch.  Even with the Canadian exchange rate, its still cheaper
than the one below.

--- David Aikema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's becoming more and more apparently that in the modern world a
 CD-RW is 
 almost essential.  But of course there's not much money in my budget
 to pick 
 one up so I'm looking at the low end of the market.
 
 A local retail store's got a LiteOn 16x10x40 cd-rw on sale for $137CDN
 until 
 the weekend which is $2 more than my normal supplier of parts offers
 for an 
 OEM 12x10x32 drive by the same company.
 
 I'm wondering if this model would be a good bet it only has a 2
 meg data 
 buffer but does have burn-proof technology by Samsung.  (Is burn-proof
 
 supported by cdrecord and any other linux software? ...does it even
 require 
 software support?)



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Re: CD-RWs

2001-10-03 Thread Chang

yes, and it has to be priced right to become an essential item.
LiteOn is a well-received item here in Shamshiopo, Hongkong.
It's cheap and  works fine.  I planned on taking a 24w model this Xmas
to replace my 2-year-old Panasonic 4w CDR.

But it's definitely not the best (which means expansive brands 
likeYamaha and Plextor).

It's becoming more and more apparently that in the modern world a CD-RW is 
almost essential.  But of course there's not much money in my budget to pick 
one up so I'm looking at the low end of the market.

A local retail store's got a LiteOn 16x10x40 cd-rw on sale for $137CDN until 
the weekend which is $2 more than my normal supplier of parts offers for an 
OEM 12x10x32 drive by the same company.




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Re: CD-RWs

2001-10-03 Thread David Aikema

On October 3, 2001 07:09 pm, Net Llama wrote:
 You, sir, need to take a trip to pricewatch.com, immediately.  Do not
 purchase that LiteOn CD burner, not only becuase LiteOn products are
 very poor quality, but because there are far better values available.

 Variations on this theme have come up many times before, so i'll give
 you the short version. Yamaha  Plextor make very good quality CD
 burners.  All others are of questionable quality, and will either:
 1) not work at all under Linux
 2) work very poorly, generating alot of coasters
 3) fail early in their lifespans

The LiteOn model shows up as working under linux (in the linux-mandrake 
hardware database as working).  The cd-record homepage also suggests that all 
cd-writers produced in 1999 or earlier are supported.  Its just the 
burn-proof that I'm worried about.

 Right now i see a US$76 Yamaha CRW8824E 8x8x24 INTERNAL IDE CD-RW 8824E
 at pricewatch.  Even with the Canadian exchange rate, its still cheaper
 than the one below.

Cheaper when you figure in the exchange rate, yes but if I've got my 
calculations right the thieves at the border will drive the price of that 
drive far over the cost of the LiteOn

On October 3, 2001 07:36 pm, Chang wrote:
 yes, and it has to be priced right to become an essential item.
 LiteOn is a well-received item here in Shamshiopo, Hongkong.
 It's cheap and  works fine.  I planned on taking a 24w model this Xmas
 to replace my 2-year-old Panasonic 4w CDR.

 But it's definitely not the best (which means expansive brands
 likeYamaha and Plextor).

Seems to be a slight difference of opinion here.

BTW I found the following note regarding Lite-On drives (following links 
from the cdrecord homepage) at http://www.cdrfaq.org/faq05.html#S5-1-43:
Some of the drives appear to be based on Plextor units. 

The reviews I've found of the drive have seemed generally positive, although 
there may be some issues in the quality of any DAE done... but then again the 
purpose of this drive would mainly be to write not read I've got a cd-rom 
to do the other fun stuff.

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Re: CD-RWs

2001-10-03 Thread Chang

I am still burning my cd with windows 98.  Cannot comment on the
 linux support for LiteOn. It's cheap, reliable and fast. That' s all I 
care.
for USD76, you possibly can buy a 16w Liteon in Hongkong.! 8w ???
hmm... :)


Variations on this theme have come up many times before, so i'll give
you the short version. Yamaha  Plextor make very good quality CD
burners.  All others are of questionable quality, and will either:
1) not work at all under Linux
2) work very poorly, generating alot of coasters
3) fail early in their lifespans

Right now i see a US$76 Yamaha CRW8824E 8x8x24 INTERNAL IDE CD-RW 8824E
at pricewatch.  Even with the Canadian exchange rate, its still cheaper
than the one below.




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